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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 06:38 PM
Response to Reply #11
14. I agree.
Though I would note that taking the same action, i.e. the IRG designation, can have radically different consequences depending on the overall context of the bill.

The purpose of Kyl-Lieberman was to justify military action against Iran.
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  -Can an Obama supporter straighten this out, re: Kyl /Lieberman? Kurt_and_Hunter  Oct-15-07 06:18 PM   #0 
  - The problem with Kyl-Lieberman isn't the terrorist  geek tragedy   Oct-15-07 06:21 PM   #1 
  - I can appreciate the validity of that, but there's been a lot of heat around here re: the IRG issue  Kurt_and_Hunter   Oct-15-07 06:23 PM   #4 
     - What matters is the context for the entire bill.  geek tragedy   Oct-15-07 06:32 PM   #9 
        - Agreed. Lieberman has no good intentions  Kurt_and_Hunter   Oct-15-07 06:46 PM   #20 
           - Strongly disagree  cuke   Oct-15-07 07:18 PM   #26 
  - the K/L bill has language that gives Bush room to go to war with.  illinoisprogressive   Oct-15-07 06:22 PM   #2 
  - Wrong...nt  SaveElmer   Oct-15-07 06:23 PM   #3 
  - What is it? I am a Clinton apologist, but I like Obama and dislike unfair charges.  Kurt_and_Hunter   Oct-15-07 06:25 PM   #5 
     - It is not unfair. No one held anyone's had to vote for the Amendment  Ethelk2044   Oct-15-07 06:37 PM   #13 
        - The question was whether it was unfair to Obama, not Clinton.  Kurt_and_Hunter   Oct-15-07 06:42 PM   #19 
  - You can read what Jim Webb says about Kyl-Lieberman  AtomicKitten   Oct-15-07 06:27 PM   #6 
  - That ultimate fate of a bill isn't quite relevant  Kurt_and_Hunter   Oct-15-07 06:30 PM   #7 
     - Difference Webb had the common sense not to vote for it. He had GOOD Judgment  Ethelk2044   Oct-15-07 06:36 PM   #10 
     - I wouldn't have voted for it either. I agree it sucks, I'm just trying to  Kurt_and_Hunter   Oct-15-07 06:39 PM   #16 
     - The fact that it never made it out of committee is the first clue.  AtomicKitten   Oct-15-07 06:41 PM   #18 
  - link provided  Ethelk2044   Oct-15-07 06:30 PM   #8 
  - Thank you. I agree the Iran/Iraq link has not been made.  Kurt_and_Hunter   Oct-15-07 06:37 PM   #11 
     - I agree.  geek tragedy   Oct-15-07 06:38 PM   #14 
     - The IRG issue is the same as "endorsing the Petraus view"  cuke   Oct-15-07 07:20 PM   #27 
        - Providing aid to Hamas, PIJ, and Hezbollah. eom  geek tragedy   Oct-15-07 07:24 PM   #29 
           - And there you have it  cuke   Oct-15-07 07:27 PM   #30 
              - Because Hamas isn't at war with the US.  geek tragedy   Oct-16-07 08:11 AM   #32 
  - Dodd and Obama aren't the only ones  maximusveritas   Oct-15-07 06:37 PM   #12 
  - They had the foresight to know the amendment was wrong and did not vote for it  Ethelk2044   Oct-15-07 06:39 PM   #15 
  - Thank you. My inquiry was only on the IRG aspect. If that's no big deal, that clarifies the issue  Kurt_and_Hunter   Oct-15-07 06:48 PM   #21 
  - Does anyone have any idea if a sponsor can pull his or her name  hedgehog   Oct-15-07 06:41 PM   #17 
  - That's just the sort of thing I was wondering. Did S970 contain IRG language when Obama signed on?  Kurt_and_Hunter   Oct-15-07 06:50 PM   #22 
     - Whoa!! You're saying Obama can't speak on this?  AtomicKitten   Oct-15-07 06:59 PM   #24 
        - That's an over-reaction, Atomic Kitten  Kurt_and_Hunter   Oct-15-07 07:14 PM   #25 
           - thanks  AtomicKitten   Oct-15-07 07:21 PM   #28 
  - ***THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR INPUT***  Kurt_and_Hunter   Oct-15-07 06:55 PM   #23 
  - Wow. Just...wow.  calteacherguy   Oct-15-07 07:28 PM   #31 
     - Wow.Just...wow.  Forkboy   Oct-16-07 08:56 AM   #33 
 

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