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Sun Oct-14-07 09:00 PM
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| 76. Incredible the lies so-called liberals will spew to slander someone |
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I guess there might be a handful of people who don't know the context, but it's hard for me to imagine that they're all on DU.
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| -Obama blows it with "Kingdom on Earth" comment |
Karmadillo |
Oct-14-07 06:21 PM |
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"I am confident we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth." WTF?? |
MethuenProgressive |
Oct-14-07 06:23 PM |
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So what was the context? |
midlife_mo_Jo |
Oct-14-07 06:24 PM |
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Oh, don't let facts get in the way |
gratuitous |
Oct-14-07 06:28 PM |
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And with the usual suspects latching onto any phony criticism of Obama... |
jefferson_dem |
Oct-14-07 06:31 PM |
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I thought supporters of theocracy were supposed to use "heretic" instead of "usual suspect." |
Karmadillo |
Oct-14-07 06:53 PM |
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Um... |
jefferson_dem |
Oct-14-07 06:59 PM |
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Good luck brave Heretic! |
beam me up scottie |
Oct-14-07 07:12 PM |
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It is an un-american idea |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 07:36 PM |
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Please explain the difference. |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-14-07 07:46 PM |
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The difference is |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 08:22 PM |
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I have no problem |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-14-07 08:24 PM |
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I would not vote for anyone I felt was a threat to to our form of non-theocratic democracy |
cuke |
Oct-14-07 08:29 PM |
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So worrying about a creeping theocracy |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-14-07 07:44 PM |
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Exactly, I have yet to see anyone provide the full context |
maximusveritas |
Oct-14-07 07:39 PM |
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So please explain the context |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-14-07 07:46 PM |
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That's what I'm asking for |
maximusveritas |
Oct-14-07 07:51 PM |
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I think it will prove him right. |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-14-07 08:05 PM |
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Because that would be a fuckin' tragedy man |
sandnsea |
Oct-14-07 06:28 PM |
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word |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 06:56 PM |
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Constitution be damned! We'll have a Kingdom... |
SidDithers |
Oct-14-07 07:33 PM |
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You said it. Keep the enlightenment alive! |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Oct-14-07 07:36 PM |
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1st Amendment, bro |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-14-07 07:47 PM |
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Lighten up |
Bluzmann57 |
Oct-14-07 06:29 PM |
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well, if the majority are christian |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-14-07 07:48 PM |
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I feel uncomfortable with his statement because it just feels too Religious |
gateley |
Oct-14-07 06:43 PM |
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Then you should get used to it. Obama is a person of faith. |
Capn Sunshine |
Oct-14-07 07:09 PM |
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Jeez - I can't even read Ann Coulter's NAME without retching - so you're |
gateley |
Oct-14-07 07:13 PM |
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Ms. Shaw who wrote the |
tomg |
Oct-14-07 06:54 PM |
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Thanks for offering some reasonable perspective to this thread. |
jefferson_dem |
Oct-14-07 10:30 PM |
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Rev. Welton Gaddy on State of Belief AAR really blasted Obama for that. |
madfloridian |
Oct-14-07 06:54 PM |
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Careful Rev. Gaddy! You too can be accused of "Christian bashing." |
Raster |
Oct-14-07 07:15 PM |
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Rev. Gaddy made a good point ..nt |
SidDithers |
Oct-14-07 07:35 PM |
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Makes sense to me. |
enid602 |
Oct-14-07 06:55 PM |
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Kingdom on Earth = Heaven on Earth |
incapsulated |
Oct-14-07 07:02 PM |
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Yeah, sure |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-14-07 07:50 PM |
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If you seriously believe ALL Christians |
incapsulated |
Oct-14-07 10:05 PM |
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Yeah, when did I say THAT strawman master. |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-15-07 10:20 PM |
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Well pardon me... |
incapsulated |
Oct-16-07 02:06 AM |
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Here's my problem |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-16-07 08:14 AM |
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Incredible the lies so-called liberals will spew to slander someone |
sandnsea |
Oct-14-07 09:00 PM |
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i am usually an enthusiastic religion basher, and even i'm not turned off by this |
mark414 |
Oct-14-07 07:04 PM |
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You are misrepresenting Obama's statement. |
calteacherguy |
Oct-14-07 07:11 PM |
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He's for civil unions, gay people serving openly in the military, pro-choice, |
jenmito |
Oct-14-07 07:16 PM |
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Umm... you guys don't get it |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Oct-14-07 07:17 PM |
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If you read the posts, you'd see a lot of us DO get it. |
jenmito |
Oct-14-07 07:20 PM |
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Um... a lot of us do get it. The Kingdom of Whomever is someone else's fairytale. Not mine. |
Raster |
Oct-14-07 07:25 PM |
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Of course. |
jefferson_dem |
Oct-14-07 07:33 PM |
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Stop. Stop. Stop. MLK was not a member of the United States government, nor up for any election. |
Raster |
Oct-14-07 07:48 PM |
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Thanks. |
jefferson_dem |
Oct-14-07 08:03 PM |
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"Promoting a faith-based foundation for progressive policy is not a sin." True. |
Raster |
Oct-14-07 08:24 PM |
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Well, I guess we read it differently. |
jefferson_dem |
Oct-14-07 08:28 PM |
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"a moral foundation for policy"??? |
trotsky |
Oct-14-07 08:48 PM |
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Of course. |
jefferson_dem |
Oct-14-07 09:02 PM |
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have you forgotten about Richard Nixon and Herbert Hoover? |
cmkramer |
Oct-15-07 11:33 AM |
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MLK was elected? |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-14-07 07:51 PM |
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Upthread you are arguing that religion should play no role within the US political system. |
jefferson_dem |
Oct-14-07 07:57 PM |
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I'll type slowly so you can understand |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-14-07 08:07 PM |
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they are just trying to rationalize it because they are Obama |
jonnyblitz |
Oct-14-07 08:13 PM |
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exactly |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-14-07 08:15 PM |
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LOL! |
jefferson_dem |
Oct-14-07 08:15 PM |
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It's his rhetoric. |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-14-07 08:18 PM |
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The first amendment only binds congress, and as incorporated by the 14th amdnt, state |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Oct-14-07 08:52 PM |
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I'm afraid I must be rather dumb myself... |
LanternWaste |
Oct-15-07 01:24 PM |
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That's not it at all |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-15-07 10:18 PM |
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I'm an atheist and I like what Obama stands for. |
jenmito |
Oct-14-07 07:54 PM |
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No, we get it. He's hardly the first politician to claim he's an Instrument of God. |
beam me up scottie |
Oct-14-07 07:25 PM |
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obama does not use his faith to discriminate and repress |
mark414 |
Oct-14-07 07:39 PM |
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bull |
darboy |
Oct-14-07 07:48 PM |
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Good point and I think the full context of the comments would bare that out |
maximusveritas |
Oct-14-07 07:41 PM |
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Geez, I'm an Atheist and I have no problem with the comment. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-14-07 07:38 PM |
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Same here |
maximusveritas |
Oct-14-07 07:46 PM |
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I agree this attack is completely without merit. nt |
calteacherguy |
Oct-14-07 07:46 PM |
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Who Does He Think He Is? Martin Luther King Jr.? |
DrFunkenstein |
Oct-14-07 07:46 PM |
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When did MLK run for office? |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-14-07 07:52 PM |
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The point is that MLK used his faith tradition to promote civil rights and social justice. |
jefferson_dem |
Oct-14-07 08:10 PM |
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Way to demean the 1st Amendment |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-14-07 08:14 PM |
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I wasn't demeaning the First Amendment. |
jefferson_dem |
Oct-14-07 08:20 PM |
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Way to spread the O'Reilly meme |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-14-07 08:22 PM |
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O'Reilly meme ... followed by referring to Obama as my "boy" LOL! |
jefferson_dem |
Oct-14-07 08:25 PM |
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Yeah, it was a racial thing. That's it. |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-14-07 08:35 PM |
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It's cool. |
jefferson_dem |
Oct-14-07 08:39 PM |
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For Christ's sake! |
AntiFascist |
Oct-14-07 07:47 PM |
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If he was trying to appease them, he'd be anti-gay, anti-choice, anti-affirmative action, |
jenmito |
Oct-14-07 08:01 PM |
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Yes but this sounds like a veiled appeal to Dominionists... |
AntiFascist |
Oct-15-07 05:13 AM |
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Lots of our Dems are going overboard w/the religious spiel lately. |
mtnsnake |
Oct-14-07 08:14 PM |
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At least Obama's not a Born-Again Idiot like W |
Chuck in Las Vegas |
Oct-14-07 08:34 PM |
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I mentioned this in another thread - there is a VERY SIMPLE "test" here. |
trotsky |
Oct-14-07 09:13 PM |
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If the Republican who used those words was pro-gay rights, pro-choice, against this war, |
jenmito |
Oct-14-07 09:19 PM |
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See, you're missing the point. |
trotsky |
Oct-14-07 09:36 PM |
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No I'm not. If a Repub. said that and held his positions, I'd vote for him. |
jenmito |
Oct-14-07 09:39 PM |
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Yep, you still are. |
trotsky |
Oct-14-07 09:44 PM |
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I'm an atheist who believes in gay rights, pro-choice, etc. etc.... |
jenmito |
Oct-14-07 09:48 PM |
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The paranoia among some posters here is really what's frightening. |
jefferson_dem |
Oct-14-07 09:53 PM |
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It sure is... |
jenmito |
Oct-14-07 09:55 PM |
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Here's a small clue. It's because... |
trotsky |
Oct-14-07 10:05 PM |
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IT SHOULD BE! Who cares about his religious beliefs if he's a liberal who supports what WE support? |
jenmito |
Oct-14-07 10:11 PM |
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That's bullshit. |
trotsky |
Oct-14-07 10:04 PM |
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Absolutely, silly. People may be a "bit uncomfortable" about all sorts of shit. |
jefferson_dem |
Oct-14-07 10:15 PM |
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Okey dokey. |
trotsky |
Oct-14-07 10:22 PM |
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Buh bye... |
jefferson_dem |
Oct-14-07 10:27 PM |
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Who do you support for president this election cycle, if I may ask? |
jefferson_dem |
Oct-14-07 09:49 PM |
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Thank you! |
Raster |
Oct-14-07 10:05 PM |
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And if Martin Luther King said it |
incapsulated |
Oct-14-07 10:16 PM |
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Did MLK run for office? |
trotsky |
Oct-14-07 10:23 PM |
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Plenty here have, plenty |
incapsulated |
Oct-14-07 10:26 PM |
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"Kingdom on Earth" is standard social Gospel language - a liberal Christian concept, not a right |
yellowcanine |
Oct-15-07 09:32 AM |
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Thanks for providing context. Great post. n/t |
ripple |
Oct-15-07 09:35 AM |
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Are people really getting worked up over this? |
redqueen |
Oct-15-07 09:38 AM |
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Good ol' separation of church and state...I don't want a Kingdom! Not for a horse, |
The Count |
Oct-15-07 11:37 AM |
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Though I have no sympathy for cries of "phony criticism" |
SaveElmer |
Oct-15-07 11:53 AM |
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Did this a week ago...where y'all been? ............ |
Didereaux |
Oct-15-07 05:02 PM |
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Yes, Obama REALLY wants to become king.... |
Dob Bole |
Oct-15-07 08:04 PM |
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A metaphor for what? |
Goblinmonger |
Oct-15-07 10:25 PM |
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This pathetic cherrypicking of a quote out of context brought to you by... |
zulchzulu |
Oct-15-07 08:13 PM |
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Here's some context. |
Karmadillo |
Oct-17-07 05:31 AM |
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What a screw-up. Imagine the chatter if Hillary had said that. |
Perry Logan |
Oct-17-07 05:40 AM |
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I'm sure she would... |
jefferson_dem |
Oct-17-07 05:56 AM |
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