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20. Careful Rev. Gaddy! You too can be accused of "Christian bashing."
Edited on Sun Oct-14-07 07:27 PM by Raster
Or "religion bashing." And for the record, we ARE electing a President, NOT a Pastor. Never before in the history of our country has the basic tenant of separation of church and state been more important as it is today. We must never forget that a major factor that allowed the advent of homegrown American bubba fascism was religious histrionics. Religion is a CHOICE, never a mandate.

Wake up America! :kick:

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  -Obama blows it with "Kingdom on Earth" comment Karmadillo  Oct-14-07 06:21 PM   #0 
  - "I am confident we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth." WTF??  MethuenProgressive   Oct-14-07 06:23 PM   #1 
  - So what was the context?  midlife_mo_Jo   Oct-14-07 06:24 PM   #2 
  - Oh, don't let facts get in the way  gratuitous   Oct-14-07 06:28 PM   #4 
  - And with the usual suspects latching onto any phony criticism of Obama...  jefferson_dem   Oct-14-07 06:31 PM   #6 
  - I thought supporters of theocracy were supposed to use "heretic" instead of "usual suspect."  Karmadillo   Oct-14-07 06:53 PM   #8 
     - Um...  jefferson_dem   Oct-14-07 06:59 PM   #13 
     - Good luck brave Heretic!  beam me up scottie   Oct-14-07 07:12 PM   #18 
        - It is an un-american idea  cuke   Oct-14-07 07:36 PM   #30 
           - Please explain the difference.  Goblinmonger   Oct-14-07 07:46 PM   #36 
              - The difference is  cuke   Oct-14-07 08:22 PM   #64 
                 - I have no problem  Goblinmonger   Oct-14-07 08:24 PM   #67 
                    - I would not vote for anyone I felt was a threat to to our form of non-theocratic democracy  cuke   Oct-14-07 08:29 PM   #70 
  - So worrying about a creeping theocracy  Goblinmonger   Oct-14-07 07:44 PM   #35 
  - Exactly, I have yet to see anyone provide the full context  maximusveritas   Oct-14-07 07:39 PM   #33 
     - So please explain the context  Goblinmonger   Oct-14-07 07:46 PM   #40 
        - That's what I'm asking for  maximusveritas   Oct-14-07 07:51 PM   #48 
           - I think it will prove him right.  Goblinmonger   Oct-14-07 08:05 PM   #54 
  - Because that would be a fuckin' tragedy man  sandnsea   Oct-14-07 06:28 PM   #3 
  - word  AtomicKitten   Oct-14-07 06:56 PM   #12 
  - Constitution be damned! We'll have a Kingdom...  SidDithers   Oct-14-07 07:33 PM   #27 
  - You said it. Keep the enlightenment alive!  Kurt_and_Hunter   Oct-14-07 07:36 PM   #29 
  - 1st Amendment, bro  Goblinmonger   Oct-14-07 07:47 PM   #42 
  - Lighten up  Bluzmann57   Oct-14-07 06:29 PM   #5 
  - well, if the majority are christian  Goblinmonger   Oct-14-07 07:48 PM   #44 
  - I feel uncomfortable with his statement because it just feels too Religious  gateley   Oct-14-07 06:43 PM   #7 
  - Then you should get used to it. Obama is a person of faith.  Capn Sunshine   Oct-14-07 07:09 PM   #16 
     - Jeez - I can't even read Ann Coulter's NAME without retching - so you're  gateley   Oct-14-07 07:13 PM   #19 
  - Ms. Shaw who wrote the  tomg   Oct-14-07 06:54 PM   #9 
  - Thanks for offering some reasonable perspective to this thread.  jefferson_dem   Oct-14-07 10:30 PM   #98 
  - Rev. Welton Gaddy on State of Belief AAR really blasted Obama for that.  madfloridian   Oct-14-07 06:54 PM   #10 
  - Careful Rev. Gaddy! You too can be accused of "Christian bashing."  Raster   Oct-14-07 07:15 PM   #20 
  - Rev. Gaddy made a good point ..nt  SidDithers   Oct-14-07 07:35 PM   #28 
  - Makes sense to me.  enid602   Oct-14-07 06:55 PM   #11 
  - Kingdom on Earth = Heaven on Earth  incapsulated   Oct-14-07 07:02 PM   #14 
  - Yeah, sure  Goblinmonger   Oct-14-07 07:50 PM   #46 
  - If you seriously believe ALL Christians  incapsulated   Oct-14-07 10:05 PM   #90 
     - Yeah, when did I say THAT strawman master.  Goblinmonger   Oct-15-07 10:20 PM   #111 
        - Well pardon me...  incapsulated   Oct-16-07 02:06 AM   #113 
           - Here's my problem  Goblinmonger   Oct-16-07 08:14 AM   #114 
  - Incredible the lies so-called liberals will spew to slander someone  sandnsea   Oct-14-07 09:00 PM   #76 
  - i am usually an enthusiastic religion basher, and even i'm not turned off by this  mark414   Oct-14-07 07:04 PM   #15 
  - You are misrepresenting Obama's statement.  calteacherguy   Oct-14-07 07:11 PM   #17 
  - He's for civil unions, gay people serving openly in the military, pro-choice,  jenmito   Oct-14-07 07:16 PM   #21 
  - Umm... you guys don't get it  Truth Hurts A Lot   Oct-14-07 07:17 PM   #22 
  - If you read the posts, you'd see a lot of us DO get it.  jenmito   Oct-14-07 07:20 PM   #23 
  - Um... a lot of us do get it. The Kingdom of Whomever is someone else's fairytale. Not mine.  Raster   Oct-14-07 07:25 PM   #24 
  - Of course.  jefferson_dem   Oct-14-07 07:33 PM   #26 
  - Stop. Stop. Stop. MLK was not a member of the United States government, nor up for any election.  Raster   Oct-14-07 07:48 PM   #43 
  - Thanks.  jefferson_dem   Oct-14-07 08:03 PM   #53 
  - "Promoting a faith-based foundation for progressive policy is not a sin." True.  Raster   Oct-14-07 08:24 PM   #66 
  - Well, I guess we read it differently.  jefferson_dem   Oct-14-07 08:28 PM   #69 
  - "a moral foundation for policy"???  trotsky   Oct-14-07 08:48 PM   #74 
     - Of course.  jefferson_dem   Oct-14-07 09:02 PM   #77 
  - have you forgotten about Richard Nixon and Herbert Hoover?  cmkramer   Oct-15-07 11:33 AM   #103 
  - MLK was elected?  Goblinmonger   Oct-14-07 07:51 PM   #47 
     - Upthread you are arguing that religion should play no role within the US political system.  jefferson_dem   Oct-14-07 07:57 PM   #51 
        - I'll type slowly so you can understand  Goblinmonger   Oct-14-07 08:07 PM   #55 
           - they are just trying to rationalize it because they are Obama  jonnyblitz   Oct-14-07 08:13 PM   #57 
           - exactly  Goblinmonger   Oct-14-07 08:15 PM   #61 
           - LOL!  jefferson_dem   Oct-14-07 08:15 PM   #60 
           - It's his rhetoric.  Goblinmonger   Oct-14-07 08:18 PM   #62 
           - The first amendment only binds congress, and as incorporated by the 14th amdnt, state  Kurt_and_Hunter   Oct-14-07 08:52 PM   #75 
           - I'm afraid I must be rather dumb myself...  LanternWaste   Oct-15-07 01:24 PM   #106 
              - That's not it at all  Goblinmonger   Oct-15-07 10:18 PM   #110 
  - I'm an atheist and I like what Obama stands for.  jenmito   Oct-14-07 07:54 PM   #50 
  - No, we get it. He's hardly the first politician to claim he's an Instrument of God.  beam me up scottie   Oct-14-07 07:25 PM   #25 
  - obama does not use his faith to discriminate and repress  mark414   Oct-14-07 07:39 PM   #32 
  - bull  darboy   Oct-14-07 07:48 PM   #45 
  - Good point and I think the full context of the comments would bare that out  maximusveritas   Oct-14-07 07:41 PM   #34 
  - Geez, I'm an Atheist and I have no problem with the comment.  Odin2005   Oct-14-07 07:38 PM   #31 
  - Same here  maximusveritas   Oct-14-07 07:46 PM   #37 
  - I agree this attack is completely without merit. nt  calteacherguy   Oct-14-07 07:46 PM   #38 
  - Who Does He Think He Is? Martin Luther King Jr.?  DrFunkenstein   Oct-14-07 07:46 PM   #39 
  - When did MLK run for office?  Goblinmonger   Oct-14-07 07:52 PM   #49 
     - The point is that MLK used his faith tradition to promote civil rights and social justice.  jefferson_dem   Oct-14-07 08:10 PM   #56 
        - Way to demean the 1st Amendment  Goblinmonger   Oct-14-07 08:14 PM   #59 
           - I wasn't demeaning the First Amendment.  jefferson_dem   Oct-14-07 08:20 PM   #63 
              - Way to spread the O'Reilly meme  Goblinmonger   Oct-14-07 08:22 PM   #65 
                 - O'Reilly meme ... followed by referring to Obama as my "boy" LOL!  jefferson_dem   Oct-14-07 08:25 PM   #68 
                    - Yeah, it was a racial thing. That's it.  Goblinmonger   Oct-14-07 08:35 PM   #72 
                       - It's cool.  jefferson_dem   Oct-14-07 08:39 PM   #73 
  - For Christ's sake!  AntiFascist   Oct-14-07 07:47 PM   #41 
  - If he was trying to appease them, he'd be anti-gay, anti-choice, anti-affirmative action,  jenmito   Oct-14-07 08:01 PM   #52 
     - Yes but this sounds like a veiled appeal to Dominionists...  AntiFascist   Oct-15-07 05:13 AM   #99 
  - Lots of our Dems are going overboard w/the religious spiel lately.  mtnsnake   Oct-14-07 08:14 PM   #58 
  - At least Obama's not a Born-Again Idiot like W  Chuck in Las Vegas   Oct-14-07 08:34 PM   #71 
  - I mentioned this in another thread - there is a VERY SIMPLE "test" here.  trotsky   Oct-14-07 09:13 PM   #78 
  - If the Republican who used those words was pro-gay rights, pro-choice, against this war,  jenmito   Oct-14-07 09:19 PM   #79 
  - See, you're missing the point.  trotsky   Oct-14-07 09:36 PM   #80 
     - No I'm not. If a Repub. said that and held his positions, I'd vote for him.  jenmito   Oct-14-07 09:39 PM   #81 
        - Yep, you still are.  trotsky   Oct-14-07 09:44 PM   #82 
           - I'm an atheist who believes in gay rights, pro-choice, etc. etc....  jenmito   Oct-14-07 09:48 PM   #83 
           - The paranoia among some posters here is really what's frightening.  jefferson_dem   Oct-14-07 09:53 PM   #85 
              - It sure is...  jenmito   Oct-14-07 09:55 PM   #86 
              - Here's a small clue. It's because...  trotsky   Oct-14-07 10:05 PM   #88 
                 - IT SHOULD BE! Who cares about his religious beliefs if he's a liberal who supports what WE support?  jenmito   Oct-14-07 10:11 PM   #91 
              - That's bullshit.  trotsky   Oct-14-07 10:04 PM   #87 
                 - Absolutely, silly. People may be a "bit uncomfortable" about all sorts of shit.  jefferson_dem   Oct-14-07 10:15 PM   #92 
                    - Okey dokey.  trotsky   Oct-14-07 10:22 PM   #94 
                       - Buh bye...  jefferson_dem   Oct-14-07 10:27 PM   #97 
           - Who do you support for president this election cycle, if I may ask?  jefferson_dem   Oct-14-07 09:49 PM   #84 
  - Thank you!  Raster   Oct-14-07 10:05 PM   #89 
  - And if Martin Luther King said it  incapsulated   Oct-14-07 10:16 PM   #93 
     - Did MLK run for office?  trotsky   Oct-14-07 10:23 PM   #95 
        - Plenty here have, plenty  incapsulated   Oct-14-07 10:26 PM   #96 
  - "Kingdom on Earth" is standard social Gospel language - a liberal Christian concept, not a right  yellowcanine   Oct-15-07 09:32 AM   #100 
  - Thanks for providing context. Great post. n/t  ripple   Oct-15-07 09:35 AM   #101 
  - Are people really getting worked up over this?  redqueen   Oct-15-07 09:38 AM   #102 
  - Good ol' separation of church and state...I don't want a Kingdom! Not for a horse,  The Count   Oct-15-07 11:37 AM   #104 
  - Though I have no sympathy for cries of "phony criticism"  SaveElmer   Oct-15-07 11:53 AM   #105 
  - Did this a week ago...where y'all been? ............  Didereaux   Oct-15-07 05:02 PM   #107 
  - Yes, Obama REALLY wants to become king....  Dob Bole   Oct-15-07 08:04 PM   #108 
  - A metaphor for what?  Goblinmonger   Oct-15-07 10:25 PM   #112 
  - This pathetic cherrypicking of a quote out of context brought to you by...  zulchzulu   Oct-15-07 08:13 PM   #109 
  - Here's some context.  Karmadillo   Oct-17-07 05:31 AM   #115 
  - What a screw-up. Imagine the chatter if Hillary had said that.  Perry Logan   Oct-17-07 05:40 AM   #116 
     - I'm sure she would...  jefferson_dem   Oct-17-07 05:56 AM   #117 

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