| -Gen. Wesley Clark: Clinton's approach deters a rush to war |
DeepModem Mom |
Oct-14-07 10:46 AM |
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Shorter Wes Clark: |
geek tragedy |
Oct-14-07 10:48 AM |
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Yeah, anyone who supports HRC is only trying to get a cabinet post |
skipos |
Oct-14-07 10:51 AM |
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Does anyone seriously think Clark would be |
geek tragedy |
Oct-14-07 10:53 AM |
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It's not "selling out" to want a Democrat in the White House |
Jai4WKC08 |
Oct-14-07 12:49 PM |
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Hehehehehehe... |
Katzenkavalier |
Oct-14-07 10:55 AM |
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K&R |
emilyg |
Oct-14-07 02:30 PM |
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Well, I appreciate his perspective on this, or any national-security subject, and |
calimary |
Oct-14-07 08:13 PM |
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Nah |
WesDem |
Oct-15-07 08:49 AM |
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Wes Clark is still the smartest guy in the room. |
MethuenProgressive |
Oct-14-07 10:49 AM |
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I'd still like to understand this better |
Sparkly |
Oct-14-07 10:58 AM |
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It increases pressure in a non-military way |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 11:24 AM |
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The state department has already made that call |
Donna Zen |
Oct-14-07 11:57 AM |
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So you don't think |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 12:23 PM |
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Patronize much? |
Donna Zen |
Oct-14-07 01:43 PM |
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Your position is a total contradiction |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 01:57 PM |
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Of course I'm not talking about the first version |
Donna Zen |
Oct-14-07 03:20 PM |
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What bombs? |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 03:31 PM |
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Nada |
Donna Zen |
Oct-14-07 03:38 PM |
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Lieberman lost. n/t |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 03:42 PM |
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Right or wrong, the resolution does NOT negate talk |
Jai4WKC08 |
Oct-14-07 06:20 PM |
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Clark supporter told a supporter in LA that he was still "uneasy" about Kyl-Lieberman... |
flpoljunkie |
Oct-14-07 06:33 PM |
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I believe he supports her decision to vote for both resolutions. |
Sparkly |
Oct-14-07 11:09 PM |
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My impression |
WesDem |
Oct-16-07 09:53 AM |
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Did the State Department |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 12:39 PM |
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Liebermann is dangerous |
The Wizard |
Oct-14-07 03:50 PM |
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Why is Iran a "problem"? |
eridani |
Oct-14-07 02:17 PM |
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Thanks Jim...you explained that better than CLARK. I needed that! nt |
Auntie Bush |
Oct-14-07 06:14 PM |
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Yes. That is precisely Joe LIeberman's hidden agenda, peace with Iran |
burythehatchet |
Oct-15-07 06:52 AM |
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It's called pandering. |
jmp |
Oct-14-07 11:59 AM |
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So what was Obama's excuse with s970 in March 2007? |
Texas_Kat |
Oct-14-07 12:00 PM |
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No, their excuse for that one is, "he wouldn't have shown up to vote for it anyways" |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 12:02 PM |
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and yet that STILL beats the hell out of voting "yes" on it |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 12:07 PM |
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No difference |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 12:26 PM |
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if you think there is NO DIFFERENCE between a yes vote on this and a nonvote |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 12:40 PM |
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Uh huh. And Obama co-writing a bill identical to kyl-lieberman 6 months ago is totally different |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 12:42 PM |
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I realize it's tough rationalizing Hillary's vote for war and more war. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 12:48 PM |
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Please stop deflecting. I've had just about enough deflecting from you for one day |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 12:50 PM |
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Oct-14-07 12:53 PM |
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Once again, no response to my question |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 12:55 PM |
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no matter how you frame it |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 12:58 PM |
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You should have been a starship captain. SHIELDS UP! DEFLECT! DEFLECT! DEFLECT! |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 01:04 PM |
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... and Hillary STILL voted "yes" on the IWR and Kyl-Lieberman. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 01:11 PM |
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You've pointed out the obvious several times |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 05:40 PM |
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Still can't digest her vote without trying to wipe the shame on others? |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 06:34 PM |
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No, I'm just wondering if you support your candidate enough |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 07:21 PM |
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I accept that that bill never made it out of committee. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 07:27 PM |
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Does that make it ok, though? |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 07:31 PM |
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comparatively, yes |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 07:36 PM |
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Umm.. Hillary DID win on this |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 08:12 PM |
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The war-mongering GOP won on this issue, not America, and certainly not Hillary. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 08:32 PM |
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Keep praying for that war! |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 08:36 PM |
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I'll pray that your candidate doesn't continue to take us down that road. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 08:42 PM |
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Uh huh. I'll bookmark this topic |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 08:48 PM |
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Oct-14-07 09:46 PM |
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I'm getting The Rush Limbaugh Treatment further down ... they claim that I lie about my military |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 09:51 PM |
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Holy shit! They pulled the "phony soldier" on you? |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 10:00 PM |
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Yes, they sure did. However, in their defense ... |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 10:08 PM |
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I'm hoping the light will go on and people will realize - |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 10:14 PM |
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another false charge AK? |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 10:34 PM |
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Well, that would mean I had made one before and I haven't. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 10:58 PM |
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Nobody did, a question is not to impugn |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 11:05 PM |
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Hello? Can I get into the conversation? I'm expressing an opinion. If that opinion |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 11:09 PM |
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Sure |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 11:18 PM |
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I am suggesting that his authority may have caused you to believe him "infallible" and your behavior |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 11:20 PM |
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my incessant defense is somewhat balanced by your incessant |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 11:23 PM |
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Bingo! That's exactly my point. If you REALLY could accept that Clark might harbor HUMAN ulterior |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 11:28 PM |
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I tell you what |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 11:31 PM |
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keep telling yourself that |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 11:13 PM |
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Why should I "tell" myself it, you think I don't believe it? |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 11:28 PM |
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Well, I can admit in all honesty that this has been a learning experience for me ... I hope also for |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 11:35 PM |
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You have no intention of learning |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-15-07 02:29 AM |
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I'm sorry that you were caught up in this AK. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 05:20 AM |
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Oh I know exactly who she claims to be |
Texas_Kat |
Oct-15-07 03:01 AM |
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Oct-15-07 04:32 AM |
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what obnoxious hyperbole |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 10:19 PM |
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Oh, come on, cease with the self-righteous indignation. Clark is only human. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 10:32 PM |
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Once again, you fall back on I am just awed by Clark. |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 10:52 PM |
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No, IMO, you can't give up ... come on, admit that Clark is a mere mortal? |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 11:03 PM |
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Oct-14-07 11:06 PM |
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"You are so full of shit." Nice comeback? What's worse is that you don't even realize |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 11:14 PM |
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LOL -- you don't "criticize" |
Jai4WKC08 |
Oct-15-07 01:48 PM |
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Don't try to deny it... |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 09:58 PM |
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And the way have chosen to obfiscate it |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 12:45 PM |
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I'm sorry you don't have a TV. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 12:49 PM |
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I do, I had one in 2002 as well |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 12:51 PM |
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did you miss the drum beat to war? |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 12:54 PM |
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I do hear one |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 12:56 PM |
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the proof is in the pudding |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 12:59 PM |
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We are as close to dropping |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 01:02 PM |
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We cannot afford to hope her "yes" votes as precursors to war turn out okay ... |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 01:03 PM |
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but what about the precursors to pudding wars? |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 01:14 PM |
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I'm lactose and war-intolerant. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 01:28 PM |
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The bill was passed what, a month ago? Where are the republicans using this bill as justification |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 12:51 PM |
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some people learned the first time the dog bit them |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 12:55 PM |
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So they aren't "beating the war drums to Iran" as you said above? |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 12:57 PM |
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Jimmy Carter has it exactly right. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 01:02 PM |
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how does that work? |
Evergreen Emerald |
Oct-14-07 01:28 PM |
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So, you want to talk about leadership? |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 01:34 PM |
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The clear implication of this trip down memory lane |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 01:38 PM |
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Hillary better stick to other issues because this one isn't hers. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 01:47 PM |
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but, you are not telling it like it is |
Evergreen Emerald |
Oct-14-07 01:45 PM |
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I'm pointing out your faux outrage due to your faulty critical analysis. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 01:51 PM |
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why don't you answer my questions? All you are doing is being snarky |
Evergreen Emerald |
Oct-14-07 01:57 PM |
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No, I'm putting this debate into proper perspective. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 02:05 PM |
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Oct-14-07 02:12 PM |
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What about s970 again? |
Texas_Kat |
Oct-14-07 02:54 PM |
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So, Durbin's a "yeah war," senator, too? nt |
calteacherguy |
Oct-14-07 08:34 PM |
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Durbin voted "no" on the IWR. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 08:39 PM |
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But you are saying one is an extension of the other |
incapsulated |
Oct-14-07 10:27 PM |
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No, that's not what I'm saying at all. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 11:08 PM |
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"The administration has dipped back into ... IWR....and nobody has |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 11:13 PM |
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but damn if she didn't pony up those "yeah war" votes to woo the GOP base |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 11:15 PM |
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But Durbin and others think it will give us more diplomatic leverage. |
calteacherguy |
Oct-15-07 12:09 AM |
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And the best way to promote diplomacy is to peg the other party a terrorist? |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-15-07 03:31 PM |
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Two bad bills |
Donna Zen |
Oct-14-07 01:22 PM |
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Why do you think Durbin and Levin voted for it? Same reason? |
calteacherguy |
Oct-14-07 01:59 PM |
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Because they are "wooinig the GOP"? |
incapsulated |
Oct-15-07 02:43 PM |
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Durbin and Levin aren't running for president. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-15-07 03:29 PM |
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I don't understand it either. Never in history has any national army been |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 12:53 PM |
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Well, technnically, K/L doesn't label the Iranian national army as terrorist |
Jai4WKC08 |
Oct-14-07 01:12 PM |
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80 members of the Iranian parliament |
Donna Zen |
Oct-14-07 01:30 PM |
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The IRG is military unit, not a knitting circle |
Jai4WKC08 |
Oct-14-07 01:46 PM |
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The IRG is indeed a military organization |
Donna Zen |
Oct-14-07 02:29 PM |
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I don't think Kyl-Lieberman goes anywhere near |
seasonedblue |
Oct-14-07 01:36 PM |
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The Iranian National Army is a different branch |
Donna Zen |
Oct-14-07 03:00 PM |
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The Kyl-Lieberman Amendment was necessary .. |
Tellurian |
Oct-14-07 01:37 PM |
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Wesley, Wesley, Wesley. I am just so damn disappointed in you. I really |
acmavm |
Oct-14-07 12:09 PM |
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Why? Because he doesn't conform to your preconcieved notion? |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 12:34 PM |
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The problem is: Bush can't read |
high density |
Oct-14-07 01:33 PM |
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When can we expect that to happen? |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 05:44 PM |
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I thought he was more honest and upright than to support corporatist |
acmavm |
Oct-14-07 09:52 PM |
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I feel the same way |
high density |
Oct-14-07 01:31 PM |
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Hillary or Obama, either way Clark may be a good Sec. of defense...? |
Imagevision |
Oct-14-07 01:23 PM |
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I trust Clark |
Evergreen Emerald |
Oct-14-07 01:30 PM |
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Maybe you should |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 01:35 PM |
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He has been exactly right regarding the Iraq debacle. He is a strong, intelligent |
Evergreen Emerald |
Oct-14-07 01:43 PM |
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Oops, you misunderstood me, or I was very unclear |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 01:45 PM |
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sorry--fixed it. |
Evergreen Emerald |
Oct-14-07 01:47 PM |
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Trust him to what? Say what's politically popular around here? |
calteacherguy |
Oct-14-07 02:01 PM |
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I trust him to tell us what he truly believes |
Evergreen Emerald |
Oct-14-07 02:07 PM |
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You are fucking wrong, way wrong General...Oh man, what a disappoitment...nt |
Nimrod2005 |
Oct-14-07 01:37 PM |
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Excellent article. Thanks for posting! nt |
calteacherguy |
Oct-14-07 01:57 PM |
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Whenever I begin a diplomatic endeavor, I like to start by calling |
rucky |
Oct-14-07 02:24 PM |
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The IRG is not Iran, and Iran is not the IRG. |
calteacherguy |
Oct-14-07 05:54 PM |
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We called the military of Iran terrorists. |
killbotfactory |
Oct-14-07 02:31 PM |
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It's not...it's just about |
zidzi |
Oct-14-07 07:06 PM |
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It's General (RETIRED) Wesley Clark. He's just another civilian now. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 03:01 PM |
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Its ShortnFiery |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 03:15 PM |
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Oh, I do show respect to those who earn it - Clark doesn't qualify. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 05:23 PM |
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If your charge had any merit |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 05:27 PM |
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Yes, you still have *stars* in your eyes. Perhaps a career in the military |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 05:29 PM |
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Another charge that amounts to zip. n/t |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 05:32 PM |
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In your opinion. IMO, Generals and Retired Generals are not God Almighty. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 05:35 PM |
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No its your opinion, as you don't know me, or anything about Clark |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 05:45 PM |
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In your opinion. Gee, we can do this all night. You must really adore him? |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 05:46 PM |
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Are you old enough |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 05:55 PM |
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Yes, I do believe that I am. If you want the full meshing of military & politics, General Musarraf |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 06:00 PM |
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Your statement is absurd & posting that photo of General Musarraf is your propaganda |
FrenchieCat |
Oct-15-07 02:30 PM |
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No, I still think Clark would not be "a bad" running mate, but he is still a political beastie. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 03:37 PM |
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Ahhhhh |
WesDem |
Oct-15-07 03:51 PM |
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So true, we are not permitted to re-evaluate the motives of Clark, even with the inane prose above. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 03:55 PM |
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Great post! |
seasonedblue |
Oct-15-07 03:55 PM |
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I never denied that he would still be an "ok" VP. Or do you defend his inane arguement above? n/t |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 03:58 PM |
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You're smearing a respected general who has |
seasonedblue |
Oct-15-07 04:12 PM |
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Oh stop wrapping Clark in the flag and spewing jingoistic nonsense. His prose above STINKS! |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 04:17 PM |
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I'll defend Clark's record from your baseless smears |
seasonedblue |
Oct-15-07 04:29 PM |
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It's not SMEARS, but merely a person's opinion who does not want us to continue to |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 04:39 PM |
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I have to admit that those of you who continue to refer to him as General instead of Retired General |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 04:29 PM |
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I'll admit that, for a time, you got me sold on him - but I've delved deeper. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 04:03 PM |
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You know.... |
CarolNYC |
Oct-14-07 06:04 PM |
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I was open to him for a very short time. But now, I believe my original "take" stands true. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 06:10 PM |
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Well...you know very little about a lot of things apparently... |
CarolNYC |
Oct-14-07 06:14 PM |
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Back at ya! |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 06:16 PM |
#112 |
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Why.... you sound like a certain RW entertainer.... |
Texas_Kat |
Oct-14-07 05:39 PM |
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Oh gee, anybody who doesn't genuflect for "the good general" is a right winger. Got it. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 05:45 PM |
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Well, he's proven his worth.... still waiting from some indication |
Texas_Kat |
Oct-14-07 05:58 PM |
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Please, what great humanitarian action is Clark know for? He's bright, attractive & a former General |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 06:03 PM |
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Oh, please |
incapsulated |
Oct-14-07 06:06 PM |
#107 |
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Oh yeah. I'm sorry that our opinions don't mesh, but it's not martial law ... |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 06:07 PM |
#108 |
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Yeah, because I called for your imprisonment |
incapsulated |
Oct-14-07 06:49 PM |
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Oh, I believe SOME people would have others imprisoned if they could have the power. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 06:59 PM |
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Ask Sadako Ogata and Samantha Power |
Texas_Kat |
Oct-14-07 09:34 PM |
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Gee, and if we would have LISTENED to General (Ret.) Zinni instead of the whorish M$M and HRC |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 09:41 PM |
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I guess you don't know much about either the rank or the people |
Jai4WKC08 |
Oct-14-07 06:10 PM |
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What? I'm not going to show you my DD 214 but I served four years AD in the 1980s. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 06:28 PM |
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he sounds like Rush Limbaugh calling you a phoney soldier. |
jonnyblitz |
Oct-14-07 07:10 PM |
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Thanks JB. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 07:24 PM |
#128 |
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Wrong on both counts |
Jai4WKC08 |
Oct-14-07 07:53 PM |
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Hey, I'm "a she" too, former Regular Army, LT. In fact there hasn't been a day in my life |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 08:15 PM |
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Who exactly the fuck do you think you are? |
Jai4WKC08 |
Oct-15-07 01:40 PM |
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Oh yeah, that's right? Regular Army Officers can ID with their rank - BFD. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 03:21 PM |
#212 |
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You still don't get it |
Jai4WKC08 |
Oct-16-07 06:22 PM |
#238 |
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So what? |
Jai4WKC08 |
Oct-14-07 08:03 PM |
#133 |
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No, Zinni was an excellent M.E. envoy who resigned rather than support this insane invasion. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 08:09 PM |
#134 |
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You obviously have an agenda against Clark, talk about political animal |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 09:13 PM |
#148 |
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"Obviously" you think so. That's fine - Clark is a politico. IMO, he's spinning like a top for HRC. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 09:17 PM |
#149 |
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Other than edorsing her |
incapsulated |
Oct-14-07 10:09 PM |
#160 |
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Now you are insulting my intelligence. "Endorsing HRC" pretty much sums it up. n/t |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 10:11 PM |
#162 |
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Then why bother arguing this? |
incapsulated |
Oct-14-07 10:18 PM |
#164 |
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No, "worthless" is hyperbole. However, now that he's fully endorsing HRC, you can't fault those |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 10:27 PM |
#167 |
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I don't fault that suspicion ShortnFiery |
Tom Rinaldo |
Oct-15-07 02:44 AM |
#192 |
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I don't fault the suspicious Tom Rinaldo either. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 04:22 AM |
#194 |
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The sum total of your words on this thread far outstrips mine |
Tom Rinaldo |
Oct-15-07 06:06 AM |
#197 |
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Too funny in a sad way. I would not have had to defend myself or my military service if "Clarkies" |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 06:24 AM |
#198 |
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My reply to you was respectful and thoughtful |
Tom Rinaldo |
Oct-15-07 06:37 AM |
#199 |
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With respect, I considered your reply as calculated "smoke screen" to confuse the issues. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 07:28 AM |
#202 |
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Who you choose to trust and why is your business |
Tom Rinaldo |
Oct-15-07 08:10 AM |
#203 |
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Then it's a deal. :-) I hope you enjoy your trip. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 08:14 AM |
#204 |
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"Not unlike Caesar" |
Jai4WKC08 |
Oct-15-07 02:06 PM |
#209 |
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You need to let go of all that anger and hatred. Yes, Kyle-Lieberman is poison. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 03:29 PM |
#213 |
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WTF? |
Jai4WKC08 |
Oct-16-07 06:34 PM |
#239 |
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"They are ALL honorable men." Was that lost on you? n/t |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 03:56 PM |
#224 |
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I'm pretty sure they get to keep their title, even in retirement |
LittleClarkie |
Oct-15-07 09:48 PM |
#236 |
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I think the point here is that Hillary felt she had to bring out the "big guns" to defend this vote. |
flpoljunkie |
Oct-14-07 05:14 PM |
#87 |
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For Obama, there is no defense. |
calteacherguy |
Oct-14-07 05:56 PM |
#101 |
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Apparently you missed or are purposely ignoring this post from the other day... |
flpoljunkie |
Oct-14-07 06:17 PM |
#113 |
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Link to the public announcement at time of vote, please. nt |
calteacherguy |
Oct-14-07 07:09 PM |
#124 |
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But Biden said that's incorrect, or incomplete, |
seasonedblue |
Oct-15-07 03:36 PM |
#216 |
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... or maybe what Biden says is incorrect or incomplete. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-15-07 03:50 PM |
#219 |
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Maybe Biden is incorrect, |
seasonedblue |
Oct-15-07 04:21 PM |
#229 |
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you are trying to defuse his right speak |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-15-07 05:23 PM |
#233 |
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Obama is entitled to speak, |
seasonedblue |
Oct-15-07 06:57 PM |
#235 |
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Exactly |
incapsulated |
Oct-14-07 05:58 PM |
#103 |
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it speaks volumes |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 06:37 PM |
#119 |
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He proposed the IWR |
sandnsea |
Oct-14-07 06:17 PM |
#114 |
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He did no such thing |
incapsulated |
Oct-14-07 06:56 PM |
#121 |
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What? LOL! nt |
calteacherguy |
Oct-14-07 07:10 PM |
#125 |
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No he did not. |
seasonedblue |
Oct-14-07 08:49 PM |
#147 |
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more Koolaid, Wesley? |
illinoisprogressive |
Oct-14-07 08:15 PM |
#137 |
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Explain Durbin's vote to me. nt |
calteacherguy |
Oct-14-07 08:16 PM |
#139 |
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Well she won't say that Durbin drank the kool aid |
seasonedblue |
Oct-14-07 08:37 PM |
#143 |
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Trying to use Durbin for cover for the fact that Hillary is gop neocon won't work |
illinoisprogressive |
Oct-14-07 10:01 PM |
#157 |
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Trying to ignore Durbin |
incapsulated |
Oct-14-07 10:06 PM |
#158 |
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hey |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 10:09 PM |
#161 |
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Sadly, I believe it without reading it, lol |
incapsulated |
Oct-14-07 10:20 PM |
#166 |
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Today, I un-subscribe to WesPac |
burythehatchet |
Oct-15-07 06:53 AM |
#201 |
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Thank you General...nt |
SaveElmer |
Oct-15-07 08:52 AM |
#206 |
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I thought votevets.org was against the Liberman/Kyl bill... |
jenmito |
Oct-15-07 03:39 PM |
#218 |
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of course it doesn't help with diplomatic efforts |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-15-07 03:54 PM |
#221 |
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That's for sure... |
jenmito |
Oct-15-07 05:34 PM |
#234 |