| 41. Well, technnically, K/L doesn't label the Iranian national army as terrorist |
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Edited on Sun Oct-14-07 01:30 PM by Jai4WKC08
It labels their Revolutionary Guard as terrorist. And from what I hear from people who should know (and NOT just Republicans who want to go to war with Iran), that's exactly what it is. They are deployed out of country to back up terrorist groups like Hizbollah, and are claimed to be operating in Iraq.
Butcha know, Iran itself has been designated a "state sponsor of terrorism" for a very long time, so I don't really see much difference in whether we call its Army, or some portion of its Army, terrorist too.
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| -Gen. Wesley Clark: Clinton's approach deters a rush to war |
DeepModem Mom |
Oct-14-07 10:46 AM |
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Shorter Wes Clark: |
geek tragedy |
Oct-14-07 10:48 AM |
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Yeah, anyone who supports HRC is only trying to get a cabinet post |
skipos |
Oct-14-07 10:51 AM |
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Does anyone seriously think Clark would be |
geek tragedy |
Oct-14-07 10:53 AM |
#4 |
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It's not "selling out" to want a Democrat in the White House |
Jai4WKC08 |
Oct-14-07 12:49 PM |
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Hehehehehehe... |
Katzenkavalier |
Oct-14-07 10:55 AM |
#5 |
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K&R |
emilyg |
Oct-14-07 02:30 PM |
#76 |
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Well, I appreciate his perspective on this, or any national-security subject, and |
calimary |
Oct-14-07 08:13 PM |
#136 |
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Nah |
WesDem |
Oct-15-07 08:49 AM |
#205 |
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Wes Clark is still the smartest guy in the room. |
MethuenProgressive |
Oct-14-07 10:49 AM |
#2 |
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I'd still like to understand this better |
Sparkly |
Oct-14-07 10:58 AM |
#6 |
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It increases pressure in a non-military way |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 11:24 AM |
#7 |
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The state department has already made that call |
Donna Zen |
Oct-14-07 11:57 AM |
#8 |
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So you don't think |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 12:23 PM |
#14 |
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Patronize much? |
Donna Zen |
Oct-14-07 01:43 PM |
#58 |
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Your position is a total contradiction |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 01:57 PM |
#66 |
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Of course I'm not talking about the first version |
Donna Zen |
Oct-14-07 03:20 PM |
#82 |
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What bombs? |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 03:31 PM |
#83 |
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Nada |
Donna Zen |
Oct-14-07 03:38 PM |
#84 |
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Lieberman lost. n/t |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 03:42 PM |
#85 |
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Right or wrong, the resolution does NOT negate talk |
Jai4WKC08 |
Oct-14-07 06:20 PM |
#115 |
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Clark supporter told a supporter in LA that he was still "uneasy" about Kyl-Lieberman... |
flpoljunkie |
Oct-14-07 06:33 PM |
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I believe he supports her decision to vote for both resolutions. |
Sparkly |
Oct-14-07 11:09 PM |
#177 |
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My impression |
WesDem |
Oct-16-07 09:53 AM |
#237 |
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Did the State Department |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 12:39 PM |
#17 |
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Liebermann is dangerous |
The Wizard |
Oct-14-07 03:50 PM |
#86 |
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Why is Iran a "problem"? |
eridani |
Oct-14-07 02:17 PM |
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Thanks Jim...you explained that better than CLARK. I needed that! nt |
Auntie Bush |
Oct-14-07 06:14 PM |
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Yes. That is precisely Joe LIeberman's hidden agenda, peace with Iran |
burythehatchet |
Oct-15-07 06:52 AM |
#200 |
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It's called pandering. |
jmp |
Oct-14-07 11:59 AM |
#9 |
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So what was Obama's excuse with s970 in March 2007? |
Texas_Kat |
Oct-14-07 12:00 PM |
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No, their excuse for that one is, "he wouldn't have shown up to vote for it anyways" |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 12:02 PM |
#11 |
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and yet that STILL beats the hell out of voting "yes" on it |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 12:07 PM |
#12 |
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No difference |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 12:26 PM |
#15 |
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if you think there is NO DIFFERENCE between a yes vote on this and a nonvote |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 12:40 PM |
#18 |
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Uh huh. And Obama co-writing a bill identical to kyl-lieberman 6 months ago is totally different |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 12:42 PM |
#19 |
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I realize it's tough rationalizing Hillary's vote for war and more war. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 12:48 PM |
#21 |
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Please stop deflecting. I've had just about enough deflecting from you for one day |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 12:50 PM |
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Oct-14-07 12:53 PM |
#27 |
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Once again, no response to my question |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 12:55 PM |
#31 |
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no matter how you frame it |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 12:58 PM |
#34 |
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You should have been a starship captain. SHIELDS UP! DEFLECT! DEFLECT! DEFLECT! |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 01:04 PM |
#39 |
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... and Hillary STILL voted "yes" on the IWR and Kyl-Lieberman. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 01:11 PM |
#40 |
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You've pointed out the obvious several times |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 05:40 PM |
#94 |
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Still can't digest her vote without trying to wipe the shame on others? |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 06:34 PM |
#118 |
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No, I'm just wondering if you support your candidate enough |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 07:21 PM |
#127 |
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I accept that that bill never made it out of committee. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 07:27 PM |
#129 |
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Does that make it ok, though? |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 07:31 PM |
#130 |
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comparatively, yes |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 07:36 PM |
#131 |
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Umm.. Hillary DID win on this |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 08:12 PM |
#135 |
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The war-mongering GOP won on this issue, not America, and certainly not Hillary. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 08:32 PM |
#140 |
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Keep praying for that war! |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 08:36 PM |
#142 |
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I'll pray that your candidate doesn't continue to take us down that road. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 08:42 PM |
#145 |
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Uh huh. I'll bookmark this topic |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 08:48 PM |
#146 |
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Oct-14-07 09:46 PM |
#152 |
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I'm getting The Rush Limbaugh Treatment further down ... they claim that I lie about my military |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 09:51 PM |
#153 |
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Holy shit! They pulled the "phony soldier" on you? |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 10:00 PM |
#156 |
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Yes, they sure did. However, in their defense ... |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 10:08 PM |
#159 |
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I'm hoping the light will go on and people will realize - |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 10:14 PM |
#163 |
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another false charge AK? |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 10:34 PM |
#170 |
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Well, that would mean I had made one before and I haven't. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 10:58 PM |
#172 |
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Nobody did, a question is not to impugn |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 11:05 PM |
#174 |
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Hello? Can I get into the conversation? I'm expressing an opinion. If that opinion |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 11:09 PM |
#178 |
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Sure |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 11:18 PM |
#183 |
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I am suggesting that his authority may have caused you to believe him "infallible" and your behavior |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 11:20 PM |
#184 |
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my incessant defense is somewhat balanced by your incessant |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 11:23 PM |
#185 |
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Bingo! That's exactly my point. If you REALLY could accept that Clark might harbor HUMAN ulterior |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 11:28 PM |
#186 |
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I tell you what |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 11:31 PM |
#188 |
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keep telling yourself that |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 11:13 PM |
#180 |
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Why should I "tell" myself it, you think I don't believe it? |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 11:28 PM |
#187 |
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Well, I can admit in all honesty that this has been a learning experience for me ... I hope also for |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 11:35 PM |
#189 |
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You have no intention of learning |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-15-07 02:29 AM |
#191 |
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I'm sorry that you were caught up in this AK. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 05:20 AM |
#196 |
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Oh I know exactly who she claims to be |
Texas_Kat |
Oct-15-07 03:01 AM |
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Oct-15-07 04:32 AM |
#195 |
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what obnoxious hyperbole |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 10:19 PM |
#165 |
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Oh, come on, cease with the self-righteous indignation. Clark is only human. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 10:32 PM |
#169 |
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Once again, you fall back on I am just awed by Clark. |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 10:52 PM |
#171 |
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No, IMO, you can't give up ... come on, admit that Clark is a mere mortal? |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 11:03 PM |
#173 |
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Oct-14-07 11:06 PM |
#175 |
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"You are so full of shit." Nice comeback? What's worse is that you don't even realize |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 11:14 PM |
#181 |
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LOL -- you don't "criticize" |
Jai4WKC08 |
Oct-15-07 01:48 PM |
#208 |
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Don't try to deny it... |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 09:58 PM |
#155 |
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And the way have chosen to obfiscate it |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 12:45 PM |
#20 |
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I'm sorry you don't have a TV. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 12:49 PM |
#22 |
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I do, I had one in 2002 as well |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 12:51 PM |
#25 |
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did you miss the drum beat to war? |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 12:54 PM |
#29 |
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I do hear one |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 12:56 PM |
#32 |
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the proof is in the pudding |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 12:59 PM |
#35 |
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We are as close to dropping |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 01:02 PM |
#36 |
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We cannot afford to hope her "yes" votes as precursors to war turn out okay ... |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 01:03 PM |
#38 |
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but what about the precursors to pudding wars? |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 01:14 PM |
#42 |
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I'm lactose and war-intolerant. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 01:28 PM |
#45 |
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The bill was passed what, a month ago? Where are the republicans using this bill as justification |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 12:51 PM |
#26 |
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some people learned the first time the dog bit them |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 12:55 PM |
#30 |
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So they aren't "beating the war drums to Iran" as you said above? |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 12:57 PM |
#33 |
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Jimmy Carter has it exactly right. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 01:02 PM |
#37 |
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how does that work? |
Evergreen Emerald |
Oct-14-07 01:28 PM |
#46 |
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So, you want to talk about leadership? |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 01:34 PM |
#51 |
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The clear implication of this trip down memory lane |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 01:38 PM |
#56 |
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Hillary better stick to other issues because this one isn't hers. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 01:47 PM |
#62 |
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but, you are not telling it like it is |
Evergreen Emerald |
Oct-14-07 01:45 PM |
#60 |
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I'm pointing out your faux outrage due to your faulty critical analysis. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 01:51 PM |
#64 |
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why don't you answer my questions? All you are doing is being snarky |
Evergreen Emerald |
Oct-14-07 01:57 PM |
#65 |
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No, I'm putting this debate into proper perspective. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 02:05 PM |
#70 |
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Oct-14-07 02:12 PM |
#72 |
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What about s970 again? |
Texas_Kat |
Oct-14-07 02:54 PM |
#78 |
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So, Durbin's a "yeah war," senator, too? nt |
calteacherguy |
Oct-14-07 08:34 PM |
#141 |
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Durbin voted "no" on the IWR. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 08:39 PM |
#144 |
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But you are saying one is an extension of the other |
incapsulated |
Oct-14-07 10:27 PM |
#168 |
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No, that's not what I'm saying at all. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 11:08 PM |
#176 |
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"The administration has dipped back into ... IWR....and nobody has |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 11:13 PM |
#179 |
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but damn if she didn't pony up those "yeah war" votes to woo the GOP base |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 11:15 PM |
#182 |
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But Durbin and others think it will give us more diplomatic leverage. |
calteacherguy |
Oct-15-07 12:09 AM |
#190 |
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And the best way to promote diplomacy is to peg the other party a terrorist? |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-15-07 03:31 PM |
#215 |
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Two bad bills |
Donna Zen |
Oct-14-07 01:22 PM |
#43 |
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Why do you think Durbin and Levin voted for it? Same reason? |
calteacherguy |
Oct-14-07 01:59 PM |
#68 |
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Because they are "wooinig the GOP"? |
incapsulated |
Oct-15-07 02:43 PM |
#211 |
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Durbin and Levin aren't running for president. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-15-07 03:29 PM |
#214 |
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I don't understand it either. Never in history has any national army been |
robinlynne |
Oct-14-07 12:53 PM |
#28 |
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Well, technnically, K/L doesn't label the Iranian national army as terrorist |
Jai4WKC08 |
Oct-14-07 01:12 PM |
#41 |
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80 members of the Iranian parliament |
Donna Zen |
Oct-14-07 01:30 PM |
#48 |
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The IRG is military unit, not a knitting circle |
Jai4WKC08 |
Oct-14-07 01:46 PM |
#61 |
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The IRG is indeed a military organization |
Donna Zen |
Oct-14-07 02:29 PM |
#75 |
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I don't think Kyl-Lieberman goes anywhere near |
seasonedblue |
Oct-14-07 01:36 PM |
#53 |
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The Iranian National Army is a different branch |
Donna Zen |
Oct-14-07 03:00 PM |
#79 |
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The Kyl-Lieberman Amendment was necessary .. |
Tellurian |
Oct-14-07 01:37 PM |
#55 |
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Wesley, Wesley, Wesley. I am just so damn disappointed in you. I really |
acmavm |
Oct-14-07 12:09 PM |
#13 |
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Why? Because he doesn't conform to your preconcieved notion? |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 12:34 PM |
#16 |
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The problem is: Bush can't read |
high density |
Oct-14-07 01:33 PM |
#50 |
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When can we expect that to happen? |
Lirwin2 |
Oct-14-07 05:44 PM |
#95 |
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I thought he was more honest and upright than to support corporatist |
acmavm |
Oct-14-07 09:52 PM |
#154 |
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I feel the same way |
high density |
Oct-14-07 01:31 PM |
#49 |
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Hillary or Obama, either way Clark may be a good Sec. of defense...? |
Imagevision |
Oct-14-07 01:23 PM |
#44 |
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I trust Clark |
Evergreen Emerald |
Oct-14-07 01:30 PM |
#47 |
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Maybe you should |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 01:35 PM |
#52 |
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He has been exactly right regarding the Iraq debacle. He is a strong, intelligent |
Evergreen Emerald |
Oct-14-07 01:43 PM |
#57 |
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Oops, you misunderstood me, or I was very unclear |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 01:45 PM |
#59 |
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sorry--fixed it. |
Evergreen Emerald |
Oct-14-07 01:47 PM |
#63 |
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Trust him to what? Say what's politically popular around here? |
calteacherguy |
Oct-14-07 02:01 PM |
#69 |
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I trust him to tell us what he truly believes |
Evergreen Emerald |
Oct-14-07 02:07 PM |
#71 |
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You are fucking wrong, way wrong General...Oh man, what a disappoitment...nt |
Nimrod2005 |
Oct-14-07 01:37 PM |
#54 |
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Excellent article. Thanks for posting! nt |
calteacherguy |
Oct-14-07 01:57 PM |
#67 |
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Whenever I begin a diplomatic endeavor, I like to start by calling |
rucky |
Oct-14-07 02:24 PM |
#74 |
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The IRG is not Iran, and Iran is not the IRG. |
calteacherguy |
Oct-14-07 05:54 PM |
#99 |
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We called the military of Iran terrorists. |
killbotfactory |
Oct-14-07 02:31 PM |
#77 |
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It's not...it's just about |
zidzi |
Oct-14-07 07:06 PM |
#123 |
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It's General (RETIRED) Wesley Clark. He's just another civilian now. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 03:01 PM |
#80 |
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Its ShortnFiery |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 03:15 PM |
#81 |
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Oh, I do show respect to those who earn it - Clark doesn't qualify. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 05:23 PM |
#88 |
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If your charge had any merit |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 05:27 PM |
#89 |
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Yes, you still have *stars* in your eyes. Perhaps a career in the military |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 05:29 PM |
#90 |
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Another charge that amounts to zip. n/t |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 05:32 PM |
#91 |
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In your opinion. IMO, Generals and Retired Generals are not God Almighty. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 05:35 PM |
#92 |
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No its your opinion, as you don't know me, or anything about Clark |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 05:45 PM |
#96 |
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In your opinion. Gee, we can do this all night. You must really adore him? |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 05:46 PM |
#98 |
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Are you old enough |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 05:55 PM |
#100 |
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Yes, I do believe that I am. If you want the full meshing of military & politics, General Musarraf |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 06:00 PM |
#104 |
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Your statement is absurd & posting that photo of General Musarraf is your propaganda |
FrenchieCat |
Oct-15-07 02:30 PM |
#210 |
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No, I still think Clark would not be "a bad" running mate, but he is still a political beastie. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 03:37 PM |
#217 |
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Ahhhhh |
WesDem |
Oct-15-07 03:51 PM |
#220 |
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So true, we are not permitted to re-evaluate the motives of Clark, even with the inane prose above. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 03:55 PM |
#223 |
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Great post! |
seasonedblue |
Oct-15-07 03:55 PM |
#222 |
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I never denied that he would still be an "ok" VP. Or do you defend his inane arguement above? n/t |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 03:58 PM |
#225 |
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You're smearing a respected general who has |
seasonedblue |
Oct-15-07 04:12 PM |
#227 |
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Oh stop wrapping Clark in the flag and spewing jingoistic nonsense. His prose above STINKS! |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 04:17 PM |
#228 |
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I'll defend Clark's record from your baseless smears |
seasonedblue |
Oct-15-07 04:29 PM |
#231 |
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It's not SMEARS, but merely a person's opinion who does not want us to continue to |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 04:39 PM |
#232 |
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I have to admit that those of you who continue to refer to him as General instead of Retired General |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 04:29 PM |
#230 |
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I'll admit that, for a time, you got me sold on him - but I've delved deeper. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 04:03 PM |
#226 |
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You know.... |
CarolNYC |
Oct-14-07 06:04 PM |
#106 |
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I was open to him for a very short time. But now, I believe my original "take" stands true. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 06:10 PM |
#109 |
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Well...you know very little about a lot of things apparently... |
CarolNYC |
Oct-14-07 06:14 PM |
#111 |
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Back at ya! |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 06:16 PM |
#112 |
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Why.... you sound like a certain RW entertainer.... |
Texas_Kat |
Oct-14-07 05:39 PM |
#93 |
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Oh gee, anybody who doesn't genuflect for "the good general" is a right winger. Got it. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 05:45 PM |
#97 |
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Well, he's proven his worth.... still waiting from some indication |
Texas_Kat |
Oct-14-07 05:58 PM |
#102 |
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Please, what great humanitarian action is Clark know for? He's bright, attractive & a former General |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 06:03 PM |
#105 |
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Oh, please |
incapsulated |
Oct-14-07 06:06 PM |
#107 |
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Oh yeah. I'm sorry that our opinions don't mesh, but it's not martial law ... |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 06:07 PM |
#108 |
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Yeah, because I called for your imprisonment |
incapsulated |
Oct-14-07 06:49 PM |
#120 |
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Oh, I believe SOME people would have others imprisoned if they could have the power. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 06:59 PM |
#122 |
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Ask Sadako Ogata and Samantha Power |
Texas_Kat |
Oct-14-07 09:34 PM |
#150 |
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Gee, and if we would have LISTENED to General (Ret.) Zinni instead of the whorish M$M and HRC |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 09:41 PM |
#151 |
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I guess you don't know much about either the rank or the people |
Jai4WKC08 |
Oct-14-07 06:10 PM |
#110 |
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What? I'm not going to show you my DD 214 but I served four years AD in the 1980s. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 06:28 PM |
#116 |
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he sounds like Rush Limbaugh calling you a phoney soldier. |
jonnyblitz |
Oct-14-07 07:10 PM |
#126 |
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Thanks JB. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 07:24 PM |
#128 |
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Wrong on both counts |
Jai4WKC08 |
Oct-14-07 07:53 PM |
#132 |
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Hey, I'm "a she" too, former Regular Army, LT. In fact there hasn't been a day in my life |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 08:15 PM |
#138 |
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Who exactly the fuck do you think you are? |
Jai4WKC08 |
Oct-15-07 01:40 PM |
#207 |
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Oh yeah, that's right? Regular Army Officers can ID with their rank - BFD. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 03:21 PM |
#212 |
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You still don't get it |
Jai4WKC08 |
Oct-16-07 06:22 PM |
#238 |
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So what? |
Jai4WKC08 |
Oct-14-07 08:03 PM |
#133 |
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No, Zinni was an excellent M.E. envoy who resigned rather than support this insane invasion. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 08:09 PM |
#134 |
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You obviously have an agenda against Clark, talk about political animal |
Jim4Wes |
Oct-14-07 09:13 PM |
#148 |
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"Obviously" you think so. That's fine - Clark is a politico. IMO, he's spinning like a top for HRC. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 09:17 PM |
#149 |
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Other than edorsing her |
incapsulated |
Oct-14-07 10:09 PM |
#160 |
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Now you are insulting my intelligence. "Endorsing HRC" pretty much sums it up. n/t |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 10:11 PM |
#162 |
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Then why bother arguing this? |
incapsulated |
Oct-14-07 10:18 PM |
#164 |
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No, "worthless" is hyperbole. However, now that he's fully endorsing HRC, you can't fault those |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-14-07 10:27 PM |
#167 |
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I don't fault that suspicion ShortnFiery |
Tom Rinaldo |
Oct-15-07 02:44 AM |
#192 |
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I don't fault the suspicious Tom Rinaldo either. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 04:22 AM |
#194 |
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The sum total of your words on this thread far outstrips mine |
Tom Rinaldo |
Oct-15-07 06:06 AM |
#197 |
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Too funny in a sad way. I would not have had to defend myself or my military service if "Clarkies" |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 06:24 AM |
#198 |
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My reply to you was respectful and thoughtful |
Tom Rinaldo |
Oct-15-07 06:37 AM |
#199 |
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With respect, I considered your reply as calculated "smoke screen" to confuse the issues. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 07:28 AM |
#202 |
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Who you choose to trust and why is your business |
Tom Rinaldo |
Oct-15-07 08:10 AM |
#203 |
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Then it's a deal. :-) I hope you enjoy your trip. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 08:14 AM |
#204 |
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"Not unlike Caesar" |
Jai4WKC08 |
Oct-15-07 02:06 PM |
#209 |
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You need to let go of all that anger and hatred. Yes, Kyle-Lieberman is poison. |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 03:29 PM |
#213 |
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WTF? |
Jai4WKC08 |
Oct-16-07 06:34 PM |
#239 |
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"They are ALL honorable men." Was that lost on you? n/t |
ShortnFiery |
Oct-15-07 03:56 PM |
#224 |
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I'm pretty sure they get to keep their title, even in retirement |
LittleClarkie |
Oct-15-07 09:48 PM |
#236 |
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I think the point here is that Hillary felt she had to bring out the "big guns" to defend this vote. |
flpoljunkie |
Oct-14-07 05:14 PM |
#87 |
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For Obama, there is no defense. |
calteacherguy |
Oct-14-07 05:56 PM |
#101 |
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Apparently you missed or are purposely ignoring this post from the other day... |
flpoljunkie |
Oct-14-07 06:17 PM |
#113 |
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Link to the public announcement at time of vote, please. nt |
calteacherguy |
Oct-14-07 07:09 PM |
#124 |
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But Biden said that's incorrect, or incomplete, |
seasonedblue |
Oct-15-07 03:36 PM |
#216 |
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... or maybe what Biden says is incorrect or incomplete. |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-15-07 03:50 PM |
#219 |
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Maybe Biden is incorrect, |
seasonedblue |
Oct-15-07 04:21 PM |
#229 |
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you are trying to defuse his right speak |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-15-07 05:23 PM |
#233 |
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Obama is entitled to speak, |
seasonedblue |
Oct-15-07 06:57 PM |
#235 |
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Exactly |
incapsulated |
Oct-14-07 05:58 PM |
#103 |
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it speaks volumes |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 06:37 PM |
#119 |
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He proposed the IWR |
sandnsea |
Oct-14-07 06:17 PM |
#114 |
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He did no such thing |
incapsulated |
Oct-14-07 06:56 PM |
#121 |
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What? LOL! nt |
calteacherguy |
Oct-14-07 07:10 PM |
#125 |
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No he did not. |
seasonedblue |
Oct-14-07 08:49 PM |
#147 |
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more Koolaid, Wesley? |
illinoisprogressive |
Oct-14-07 08:15 PM |
#137 |
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Explain Durbin's vote to me. nt |
calteacherguy |
Oct-14-07 08:16 PM |
#139 |
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Well she won't say that Durbin drank the kool aid |
seasonedblue |
Oct-14-07 08:37 PM |
#143 |
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Trying to use Durbin for cover for the fact that Hillary is gop neocon won't work |
illinoisprogressive |
Oct-14-07 10:01 PM |
#157 |
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Trying to ignore Durbin |
incapsulated |
Oct-14-07 10:06 PM |
#158 |
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hey |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-14-07 10:09 PM |
#161 |
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Sadly, I believe it without reading it, lol |
incapsulated |
Oct-14-07 10:20 PM |
#166 |
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Today, I un-subscribe to WesPac |
burythehatchet |
Oct-15-07 06:53 AM |
#201 |
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Thank you General...nt |
SaveElmer |
Oct-15-07 08:52 AM |
#206 |
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I thought votevets.org was against the Liberman/Kyl bill... |
jenmito |
Oct-15-07 03:39 PM |
#218 |
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of course it doesn't help with diplomatic efforts |
AtomicKitten |
Oct-15-07 03:54 PM |
#221 |
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That's for sure... |
jenmito |
Oct-15-07 05:34 PM |
#234 |
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