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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-13-07 08:48 PM
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61. This is a Text Book example of a worthless argument
Edited on Sat Oct-13-07 08:49 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
Offensive tone ("Get it through your head"), lots of CAPITAL LETTERS, outlandish hyperbole (A BILLION DOLLARS), flat assertions of opinion framed as fact (GOP DAMN SURE wants to run against HRC), and the occasional outright falsehood (50% of the population hates her).

***Bonus points in this case for the falsehood being a recycled Karl Rove statement

Actually, her favorables are pretty good for a universally known figure. Rasmussen has her favorables as higher than any Republican candidate, and the fact that her public image is well formed is an advantage. The GOP is quite good at shaping the public image of Democrats between the primaries and the conventions. (Dukakis and Kerry spring to mind.) Everyone already knows Hillary, so she limits that particular republican strong-point.

She is not a beloved figure, but she is not uncommonly unpopular either.

Behold, if you dare, the epic unpopularity of the most hated woman since Countess Bathory...


CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll. Sept. 7-9, 2007. N=1,017 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.

"We'd like to get your overall opinion of some people in the news. As I read each name, please say if you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of these people -- or if you have never heard of them. New York Senator Hillary Clinton." "New York Senator" omitted prior to June 2007.


Favorable / Unfavorable / Never Heard of / Unsure
9/7- 9/07 53 39 1 7
6/22-24/07 51 44 - 4
3/9-11/ 07 49 44 2 5
11/3- 5/06 51 40 3 7
9/22-24/06 50 45 2 4
4/21-23/06 50 42 2 6

In fairness, she has done better w/ CNN than with Gallup, but even Gallup currently has her at 51-favorable, 44-unfavorable (10/4-7/07)

http://pollingreport.com/C2.htm#Hillary



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