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Fri Oct-12-07 07:32 PM
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You make sweeping generalizations without supporting evidence, get called on it then you change the subject.
"do you not understand that exit polls are supposed to have some kind of scientific basis, and that MSM polls are based on, um, whatever the pollster is trying to push as their point?"
Ummm do you understand that public polling firm's life blood depends upon their credibility in assessing public opinion.
If you can back up your statement, by all means do so. But tinfoil will not get you very far.
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| -Clinton leading by 26% nationally; almost at 50% support. |
calteacherguy |
Oct-12-07 06:07 PM |
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realclear |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 06:08 PM |
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It's an average, and it's legitimate. |
calteacherguy |
Oct-12-07 06:09 PM |
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the vote in Ohio in 2004 |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 06:21 PM |
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No one has yet to give a valid argument that Repukes want her to be the nominee. |
William769 |
Oct-12-07 06:10 PM |
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I think she's the candidate the Republicans fear the most. |
calteacherguy |
Oct-12-07 06:11 PM |
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why don't you tune in to McLaughlin Group tonight |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 06:13 PM |
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Really? Who are they pushing as THEIR candidate? |
durrrty libby |
Oct-12-07 06:11 PM |
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nice try |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 06:15 PM |
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See post #12. |
William769 |
Oct-12-07 06:18 PM |
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this post? |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 06:26 PM |
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Thats not from post #12, Post #12 is a National poll. |
William769 |
Oct-12-07 06:28 PM |
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oh, right, the "poll" site |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 06:29 PM |
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Mmm-hmmm, and it's been stated why. |
William769 |
Oct-12-07 06:32 PM |
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see post 31 |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 06:37 PM |
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legitimate question. Answer please. Who are they pushing for their |
durrrty libby |
Oct-12-07 06:23 PM |
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we are discussing |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 06:25 PM |
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You haters are always quick with wild conspiracy, but back up squat. |
durrrty libby |
Oct-12-07 06:44 PM |
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what do i hate? |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 06:55 PM |
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When people start playing the dumb card, I'm out |
durrrty libby |
Oct-13-07 11:24 AM |
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So public poll results posted on a rw site cease to be valid? |
rinsd |
Oct-12-07 06:46 PM |
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LOL, Because your change of subject and distraction was more legitimate? |
rinsd |
Oct-12-07 06:24 PM |
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so the right-winger site RealClearPolitics |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 06:29 PM |
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Umm they post all the public polls and then do an average of them |
rinsd |
Oct-12-07 06:44 PM |
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An average is an average. The average is neutral. nt |
calteacherguy |
Oct-12-07 07:20 PM |
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RealClear commentary sucks but they do a good job on poll compilation |
rinsd |
Oct-12-07 06:11 PM |
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Yes, I just go there for the polling averages as well. |
calteacherguy |
Oct-12-07 06:13 PM |
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They link to every poll with break down for nat heats, by state & even head to heads. |
rinsd |
Oct-12-07 06:21 PM |
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Is This Better? |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Oct-12-07 07:29 PM |
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data supplied by Penn and associates |
Capn Sunshine |
Oct-12-07 07:55 PM |
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K&R! |
William769 |
Oct-12-07 06:10 PM |
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How's she doing in Iowa ? |
jaysunb |
Oct-12-07 06:13 PM |
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RCP average hows her leading by 3% there. nt |
calteacherguy |
Oct-12-07 06:18 PM |
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She's doing great! Thanks for asking. |
William769 |
Oct-12-07 06:20 PM |
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Here is another National poll (and it's NOT realclear), but I guess they must be right wing also. |
William769 |
Oct-12-07 06:17 PM |
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Wow... Kucinich beats Biden and Dodd! |
redqueen |
Oct-12-07 06:19 PM |
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i would assume so |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 06:23 PM |
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The ads are from google. Same as DU. |
William769 |
Oct-12-07 06:29 PM |
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we don't get NewsMax ads |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 06:30 PM |
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But at least you know why they are there now. |
William769 |
Oct-12-07 06:31 PM |
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the only "deflection" here |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 06:36 PM |
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Lets make things simple, find any National poll of your choosing and post it. |
William769 |
Oct-12-07 06:38 PM |
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anyone who thinks that poll results |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 06:42 PM |
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So now you want to change the subject.? |
William769 |
Oct-12-07 06:44 PM |
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this is like having a conversation |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 06:54 PM |
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Once again pick any National poll you want. |
William769 |
Oct-12-07 06:58 PM |
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They become unraveled and silly so quickly |
durrrty libby |
Oct-12-07 07:17 PM |
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Yes they do. |
William769 |
Oct-12-07 07:21 PM |
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many of us on DU |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 07:18 PM |
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So I guess your answer is no. |
William769 |
Oct-12-07 07:20 PM |
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for someone who demands answers |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 07:21 PM |
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Ok missy, show me where I demanded anything. |
William769 |
Oct-12-07 07:24 PM |
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your reading comprehension level |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 07:26 PM |
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Did I demand anything or not? |
William769 |
Oct-12-07 07:27 PM |
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well, that's more than enough of |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 07:31 PM |
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your candidate doesn't have enough money |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 07:32 PM |
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"you have no substance" |
rinsd |
Oct-12-07 07:35 PM |
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too bad you have a problem with the DU rules |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 07:40 PM |
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Then alert the Mods. |
William769 |
Oct-12-07 07:43 PM |
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alerting is for egregious sins against DU |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 07:44 PM |
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So then again what was the purpose of posting the rules? |
William769 |
Oct-12-07 07:47 PM |
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because there seems to be some problem here |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 07:48 PM |
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Then point the mods to lock it. |
William769 |
Oct-12-07 07:50 PM |
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thread locking |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 07:55 PM |
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But you felt the need to bring up the rules. |
William769 |
Oct-12-07 07:56 PM |
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discussion is not about being "right" |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 07:58 PM |
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If thats the case then why did you post the rules? |
William769 |
Oct-12-07 08:01 PM |
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No, you can't. Otherwise you wouldn't change the subject when you were proven wrong. |
rinsd |
Oct-12-07 07:57 PM |
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I've been posting links to RCP's poll compliations all year. |
rinsd |
Oct-12-07 07:50 PM |
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Newsweek poll |
Capn Sunshine |
Oct-12-07 08:07 PM |
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Thats a National poll? |
William769 |
Oct-12-07 08:08 PM |
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So polling firms have no legitimacy? |
rinsd |
Oct-12-07 06:54 PM |
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exit polls are based on scientific premises |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 07:11 PM |
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Do you just make shit up as you go along? |
rinsd |
Oct-12-07 07:21 PM |
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do you just sidestep |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 07:23 PM |
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Who is sidestepping? |
rinsd |
Oct-12-07 07:32 PM |
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i think that the poll results |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 07:36 PM |
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Where did I say things about my candidate in this thread? |
rinsd |
Oct-12-07 07:39 PM |
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um..... |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 07:41 PM |
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Getting frazzled, are we? |
William769 |
Oct-12-07 07:45 PM |
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no |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 07:46 PM |
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Yes I am a Hillary supporter. |
rinsd |
Oct-12-07 07:52 PM |
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Ha |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Oct-12-07 07:41 PM |
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you're comparing a MSM poll |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 07:43 PM |
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You apparently did not understand the big words between those words. |
rinsd |
Oct-12-07 07:47 PM |
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once again, |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 07:54 PM |
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Once again, it is the basic methodology used for both. |
rinsd |
Oct-12-07 07:57 PM |
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if it makes you feel better to believe |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 08:00 PM |
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Yes opinion polls rely on the same basic scientific principles of DNA testing. |
rinsd |
Oct-12-07 08:02 PM |
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We Don't Have To Be Mean |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Oct-12-07 08:07 PM |
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Our stars are shining brightly! |
William769 |
Oct-12-07 08:02 PM |
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It's Based On The Same Science |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Oct-12-07 08:03 PM |
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Is Bush popular or unpopular? Nobody really knows... Maybe he's at 75%. |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Oct-12-07 08:00 PM |
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Hell you could argue that he has 100% support, if you don't believe any of the polls. |
William769 |
Oct-12-07 08:03 PM |
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No, because the other side is "nobody I know likes Bush" and it feels to me that |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Oct-12-07 08:08 PM |
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Duh |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Oct-12-07 07:55 PM |
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This is a crock. Nobody averaged me! |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Oct-12-07 06:56 PM |
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N.H. Poll puts Gore over Clinton - June 27, 2007 |
bajamary |
Oct-12-07 07:22 PM |
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thank you |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 07:29 PM |
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If The Poll Was Conducted Properly I Have No Problem Beleiving That's How Those Folks Would Have |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Oct-12-07 08:09 PM |
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Wasn't Kerry polling at 7% nationally at this point in the last election |
Beaverhausen |
Oct-12-07 08:00 PM |
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thank you, too |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 08:07 PM |
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I See |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Oct-12-07 08:11 PM |
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polls about Bu$h are rating |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 08:20 PM |
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But The Same Principle Is At Work |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Oct-12-07 08:26 PM |
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Can We Discuss These Things Without Insulting One Another? |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Oct-12-07 08:13 PM |
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ha! |
musette_sf |
Oct-12-07 08:22 PM |
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The Incivility Was Unnecessary |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Oct-12-07 08:30 PM |
#106 |
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