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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 11:24 PM
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23. Nothing beyond those high negatives, low head-to-head numbers, and every third defamation from
right-wing talk radio which is obsessed with the fear of her presidency (and for the record, I think she's the favorite to win the nomination and, while I think she's not nearly as strong a general election candidate as Obama or Edwards, I think she'd still be the favorite to win the general election).

But here's an interesting fact:

Googling "anyone but Clinton" gets 2,850 hits,

and "anyone but Hillary" gets 27,400 hits,

and "anyone but Obama" gets 44 hits,

and "anyone but Barack" gets 8 hits,

and "anyone but Edwards" gets 61 hits, and

and "anyone but John" gets 786 hits (few involve Edwards).
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  -Can anyone provide evidence showing Hillary will drive up GOP turnout? rinsd  Oct-09-07 10:39 PM   #0 
  - The only thing that would drive GOP turnout  Xipe Totec   Oct-09-07 10:42 PM   #1 
  - LOL  rinsd   Oct-09-07 10:42 PM   #2 
  - Sounds like Fred Thompson didn't do it for ya. nt  babylonsister   Oct-09-07 10:46 PM   #6 
  - I know some GOP women who would vote for Hillary.  SharonAnn   Oct-09-07 10:54 PM   #11 
     - I know 6 white male republicans who are voting for her in the General Election.  avrdream   Oct-10-07 05:11 AM   #29 
  - No.  liberalmuse   Oct-09-07 10:45 PM   #3 
  - Common Sense!  ShortnFiery   Oct-09-07 10:45 PM   #4 
  - i can make up fake polls from non existent think tanks and political web sites though.  chimpsrsmarter   Oct-09-07 10:46 PM   #5 
  - I know, I hear it all the time too, but only from the talking heads!  napi21   Oct-09-07 10:47 PM   #7 
  - Maybe that she isn't leading among the candidates who could win in the GE among  saracat   Oct-09-07 10:49 PM   #8 
  - Not a bad argument in terms of her GE viability  rinsd   Oct-09-07 10:53 PM   #10 
  - Probably not but I do not know what one would measure the GOP dislike with.  saracat   Oct-09-07 10:58 PM   #12 
     - I am not denying the hatred at all.  rinsd   Oct-09-07 11:02 PM   #17 
        - I didn't think you were.I have always respected you rinsd.  saracat   Oct-09-07 11:06 PM   #20 
  - wait. She does lead the top GOPers in GE match ups  wyldwolf   Oct-10-07 04:52 AM   #27 
  - "Conventional wisdom" unsupported by fact....Like Iraq having wmd's  Rowdyboy   Oct-09-07 10:53 PM   #9 
  - It's not scientific, but I live among the right wing ... the hard core ones.  ShortnFiery   Oct-09-07 11:00 PM   #15 
     - Oh, I know what you're tlaking about....  Rowdyboy   Oct-09-07 11:02 PM   #18 
     - Oh yes, and with regard to most other topics, these folks are quite accommodating.  ShortnFiery   Oct-09-07 11:13 PM   #21 
     - Hating Clintons  lamprey   Oct-10-07 08:54 AM   #32 
  - ABC  syberyenta   Oct-09-07 10:58 PM   #13 
  - Well thank you for your "evidence"  rinsd   Oct-09-07 10:59 PM   #14 
  - I see it all the time  Froward69   Oct-09-07 11:01 PM   #16 
  - I think you meant to post this in GD:Empiricism. This is GD:ReceivedWisdom  Kurt_and_Hunter   Oct-09-07 11:04 PM   #19 
  - you have not read all the posts saying so.  illinoisprogressive   Oct-09-07 11:21 PM   #22 
  - oooh, now there's some evidence. Posts on DU say so.  wyldwolf   Oct-10-07 08:57 AM   #35 
  - Nothing beyond those high negatives, low head-to-head numbers, and every third defamation from  Stop Cornyn   Oct-09-07 11:24 PM   #23 
  - " low head-to-head numbers"  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-10-07 04:12 AM   #26 
     - Here are some of Hillary's low head-to-head numbers I was referring to:  Stop Cornyn   Oct-10-07 02:04 PM   #59 
  - I can't, but there's a lot of anecdotal trouble from many directions and something potentially worse  PurityOfEssence   Oct-09-07 11:34 PM   #24 
  - there's a lot of anecdotes that say the opposite  wyldwolf   Oct-10-07 08:58 AM   #36 
     - Okay, but can you "prove" them with stats either?  PurityOfEssence   Oct-10-07 09:51 AM   #38 
        - no, which is why I never use anecdotes unless responding to anecdotes  wyldwolf   Oct-10-07 10:32 AM   #40 
  - They will take one look at their candidate  libodem   Oct-10-07 12:08 AM   #25 
  - People who think that a Hillary nom will substantially drive  cali   Oct-10-07 05:04 AM   #28 
  - My FIL (repub) is going to caucus as a democrat to vote against her. EOM  lojasmo   Oct-10-07 06:29 AM   #30 
  - Good question, rinsd  WesDem   Oct-10-07 08:37 AM   #31 
  - Damn I see you got off the fence and it wasn't to join us.  rinsd   Oct-10-07 01:22 PM   #52 
     - Yeah, it was a tough one  WesDem   Oct-10-07 01:29 PM   #55 
  - 32 replies and not single shred of evidence...  wyldwolf   Oct-10-07 08:55 AM   #33 
  - post evidence that the sun will rise tomorrow n/t  LSK   Oct-10-07 11:32 AM   #43 
     - Is that in question?  wyldwolf   Oct-10-07 11:36 AM   #44 
        - is the the OP in question?  LSK   Oct-10-07 11:43 AM   #45 
           - of course it is. Which is why the OP exists.  wyldwolf   Oct-10-07 11:49 AM   #46 
              - so I guess all the Repukes I know who bash Hillary all the time are imaginary?  LSK   Oct-10-07 11:58 AM   #47 
                 - no more so than the Repukes I know who bash Obama and Edwards  wyldwolf   Oct-10-07 12:06 PM   #48 
                    - you know Repukes who know Obama and Edwards???  LSK   Oct-10-07 12:11 PM   #49 
                       - did I say that?  wyldwolf   Oct-10-07 12:25 PM   #51 
  - that is what they said about her during the senate race--turned out to be a lie  Evergreen Emerald   Oct-10-07 08:55 AM   #34 
  - Personal experience, listening to republicans, the 2000-2004 elections, and common sense  Dawgs   Oct-10-07 09:29 AM   #37 
  - Hate doesn't equal turnout.  rinsd   Oct-10-07 01:27 PM   #54 
  - Use of Her Name to Drive Fundraising & Numerous High Negative Polls With Little Fluidity  DrFunkenstein   Oct-10-07 10:25 AM   #39 
  - Actually that is a great test. The RNC recently used her name in a email.  rinsd   Oct-10-07 01:24 PM   #53 
  - "proof", " evidence", is not compatible with rabid Hillary hatred on DU. nt.  Lirwin2   Oct-10-07 11:30 AM   #41 
  - do you know any Republicans???? were you alive in the 90s??  LSK   Oct-10-07 11:31 AM   #42 
  - Because there is no evidence to support it.  rinsd   Oct-10-07 01:35 PM   #57 
  - No empiric evidence, but one would have to have been in a coma -  AtomicKitten   Oct-10-07 12:14 PM   #50 
  - Actually AK that presents the chance for an experiment.  rinsd   Oct-10-07 01:38 PM   #58 
     - that may be the GOP's only real leverage for fund-raising  AtomicKitten   Oct-10-07 02:05 PM   #60 
  - Irrelevant  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-10-07 01:30 PM   #56 

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