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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 11:30 AM
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51. NAFTA also enabled US manufactures to move to Mexico, not be bothered by labor laws
It has meant lots of young women getting seriously abused in factories just south of the border.

It has meant more pollution in border areas. Producers like places with little environmental protection regulations. There ARE rivers that flow north and bring pollution with them. Ground water does not recognize borders, so what gets in the ground in a place where factories are not well monitored, can get into water where there are rules.

NAFTA means US protective laws have become a friggin joke.
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  -"Free Trade" is not a complicated issue, Hilary Armstead  Oct-09-07 01:52 PM   #0 
  - International trade is good  Nederland   Oct-09-07 02:00 PM   #1 
  - dupe. deleted. nt  Romulox   Oct-09-07 03:05 PM   #18 
  - Obviously not true.  Romulox   Oct-09-07 03:05 PM   #19 
     - Good point  Nederland   Oct-09-07 03:59 PM   #20 
        - NAFTA also enabled US manufactures to move to Mexico, not be bothered by labor laws  havocmom   Oct-10-07 11:30 AM   #51 
  - Clinton pledges to revisit trade deals  incapsulated   Oct-09-07 02:12 PM   #2 
  - "Revisiting it" is simple  Armstead   Oct-09-07 02:15 PM   #4 
     - As much as I would like NAFTA to be scrapped  incapsulated   Oct-09-07 02:17 PM   #6 
        - It depends on who is doing the renegotiation  Armstead   Oct-09-07 02:20 PM   #7 
           - You don't just "throw out" international agreements  incapsulated   Oct-09-07 02:26 PM   #9 
              - The international agreements in question already have thrown out....  Armstead   Oct-09-07 02:30 PM   #10 
              - There were many different versions of the original agreement  incapsulated   Oct-09-07 02:33 PM   #11 
              - Kucinich has noted that there are "escape clauses" in these agreements, where  Lydia Leftcoast   Oct-10-07 11:53 AM   #54 
  - If you believe an issue as complex as the world economy  Rhythm and Blue   Oct-09-07 02:14 PM   #3 
  - Robbery is bad.  Armstead   Oct-09-07 02:17 PM   #5 
     - Robbery is an extremely, extremely simple transaction,  Rhythm and Blue   Oct-09-07 03:04 PM   #16 
        - I don;t recall saying that  Armstead   Oct-09-07 05:30 PM   #25 
  - As for NAFTA...  8_year_nightmare   Oct-09-07 02:25 PM   #8 
  - The employment conveyor belt  Armstead   Oct-09-07 02:40 PM   #13 
  - Without something like NAFTA, our immigration problem would be even worse, no?  MGKrebs   Oct-09-07 07:11 PM   #31 
  - Our immigration problem was much LESS before NAFTA  Armstead   Oct-09-07 10:02 PM   #33 
  - yep but conservatives now question free trade  One Sweet World   Oct-10-07 07:50 AM   #45 
  - NAFTA not just about corporations saving $ on payroll  havocmom   Oct-10-07 11:39 AM   #53 
  - It may not be a complicated principle, but it very well may be complicated  MGKrebs   Oct-09-07 02:39 PM   #12 
  - Not if there's a political and popular will to do so  Armstead   Oct-09-07 02:42 PM   #14 
     - I think you pretty much defined a complicated implementation!  MGKrebs   Oct-09-07 03:04 PM   #17 
  - Note: it's "Hillary", not "Hilary"  TwilightZone   Oct-09-07 03:03 PM   #15 
  - Too "complicated". (eom)  oasis   Oct-09-07 04:05 PM   #21 
  - I guess so.  TwilightZone   Oct-09-07 04:42 PM   #24 
  - OK Hillary  Armstead   Oct-09-07 05:34 PM   #27 
  - Kucinich Talks NAFTA  slipslidingaway   Oct-09-07 04:14 PM   #22 
  - So Dennis is going to remove MFN status when he is elected.  BrightKnight   Oct-09-07 04:28 PM   #23 
     - They should never have gotten it in the first place  Armstead   Oct-09-07 05:33 PM   #26 
     - delete...dup  slipslidingaway   Oct-09-07 06:01 PM   # 
     - Many Republicans were with Clinton on this vote  slipslidingaway   Oct-09-07 06:01 PM   #28 
  - We need FAIR trade, not free trade.  liberalla   Oct-09-07 06:57 PM   #29 
  - Bill C. was saying this a long time ago. n/t  Jim4Wes   Oct-10-07 05:51 AM   #44 
  - You're obviously afraid of strong women and want Rudy as president  Adenoid_Hynkel   Oct-09-07 07:06 PM   #30 
  - I want a strong woman for President  Armstead   Oct-09-07 09:59 PM   #32 
  - A fair interpretation of the Clinton approach  Jim4Wes   Oct-09-07 10:02 PM   #34 
  - Why has that gotten worse instead of better?  Armstead   Oct-09-07 10:07 PM   #35 
     - The policies Clinton put in have not been enforced  Jim4Wes   Oct-09-07 10:10 PM   #36 
        - The whole context was wrong.  Armstead   Oct-09-07 10:16 PM   #37 
           - You just completely contradicted  Jim4Wes   Oct-09-07 10:18 PM   #38 
              - Public statements mean nothing with them  Armstead   Oct-09-07 10:20 PM   #39 
                 - A positive take  Jim4Wes   Oct-09-07 10:23 PM   #40 
                    - A critical take on Bill Clinton  Armstead   Oct-09-07 11:48 PM   #41 
                       - At least yours was funny...  Jim4Wes   Oct-10-07 04:38 AM   #42 
                          - That's what I like  Armstead   Oct-10-07 11:12 AM   #48 
                             - I read at least 1/2 the article  Jim4Wes   Oct-10-07 11:30 AM   #52 
                                - Your definition of a cheap shot differs from mine  Armstead   Oct-10-07 11:53 AM   #55 
                                   - I understood yours and the authors opinion  Jim4Wes   Oct-10-07 01:42 PM   #56 
                                      - Not necessarily -- The baby was thrown out with the bathwater.  Armstead   Oct-10-07 02:04 PM   #57 
                                         - No thats fantasy  Jim4Wes   Oct-10-07 02:56 PM   #59 
                                            - An interesting philosophical and historic question  Armstead   Oct-11-07 08:46 AM   #66 
  - Whatever the issue ... Hillary is both FOR and AGAINST it.  jmp   Oct-10-07 04:56 AM   #43 
  - right from the republican playbook  Evergreen Emerald   Oct-10-07 07:56 AM   #47 
     - Right out of the DLC playbook...  Armstead   Oct-10-07 11:13 AM   #49 
     - "flip-flop?"  Evergreen Emerald   Oct-10-07 08:21 PM   #62 
     - Maybe the party could nominate a candidate ...  jmp   Oct-11-07 08:50 AM   #68 
  - GATT Has 110 Members And The WTO Has One Hundred Fifty Members  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-10-07 07:55 AM   #46 
  - You don't correct a mistake by compounding it  Armstead   Oct-10-07 11:17 AM   #50 
  - Kick....  AzDar   Oct-10-07 02:36 PM   #58 
  - Free Trade is not a complicated issue!?!  cobalt1999   Oct-10-07 03:01 PM   #60 
  - Yes it is complicated -- but the basics are straightforward  Armstead   Oct-11-07 08:26 AM   #64 
  - Free Trade is Not a Complicated Issue?  ribofunk   Oct-10-07 03:40 PM   #61 
  - European sovergnty is being undermined  Armstead   Oct-11-07 08:28 AM   #65 
  - I disagree. I think it's a very complex issue.  calteacherguy   Oct-10-07 08:56 PM   #63 
     - I agree with you in principle  Armstead   Oct-11-07 08:50 AM   #67 

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