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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 07:55 PM
Response to Reply #97
104. I don't do "cutesy posts", and you made it sound like I do.
I am amazed at the ones here defending the Senate condemning a group's ad.

It is shocking.
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  -Not a single Democratic leader said it was ok to use the words "betray us" madfloridian  Sep-22-07 12:35 PM   #0 
  - These candidates need to get out and talk with "the people" because they haven't a clue  ShortnFiery   Sep-22-07 12:37 PM   #1 
  - Well, it doesn't necessarily mean they aren't equally disgusted with the occupation.  Sparkly   Sep-22-07 12:43 PM   #4 
     - It was not their ad. They are being "cautious".  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 12:47 PM   #6 
     - It's clearly tragic -- I think they know that.  Sparkly   Sep-22-07 12:49 PM   #10 
     - Yes, let's HERD those cats - and have zero team work. Atta boys and girls congress!  ShortnFiery   Sep-22-07 12:55 PM   #16 
        - See, I don't think it is about keeping powder dry.  Sparkly   Sep-22-07 01:00 PM   #21 
        - No, it was the Senate and the Dem leaders who fell for a trap.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 01:01 PM   #22 
        - A lot of them did, too. I agree.  Sparkly   Sep-22-07 01:06 PM   #28 
        - Did they have a vote on the purple band-aids yet?  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 01:07 PM   #30 
        - Nope.  Sparkly   Sep-22-07 01:10 PM   #36 
        - You're focusing on settling old political scores--the American people  wienerdoggie   Sep-22-07 01:29 PM   #45 
           - Continue please.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 01:31 PM   #47 
           - I'm not sure what you mean about "where we are going" at DU--  wienerdoggie   Sep-22-07 01:36 PM   #52 
           - Sorry, still navel-gazing  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 01:42 PM   #59 
           - Doesn't everyone have a right to speak freely  klyon   Sep-24-07 06:41 AM   #206 
           - if it's any comfort to you  Gilligan   Sep-23-07 12:51 AM   #151 
           - "The American people"...  ljm2002   Sep-22-07 11:04 PM   #130 
              - Sorry, but I'll wager my "pithy analysis" is probably pretty close to the truth--  wienerdoggie   Sep-22-07 11:45 PM   #137 
                 - That is just not true.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 11:53 PM   #140 
                 - "Their own activists"? MoveOn might donate money to them, and might  wienerdoggie   Sep-23-07 12:01 AM   #142 
                    - You think it is ok for the Senate to condemn the speech of a liberal group?  madfloridian   Sep-23-07 12:02 AM   #143 
                       - No--I thought it was a stupid resolution, but it was MoveOn's fault that  wienerdoggie   Sep-23-07 12:06 AM   #144 
                          - They were not in a poltiical bind at all. They are in control  madfloridian   Sep-23-07 12:21 AM   #148 
                 - Okay, gloves off...  ljm2002   Sep-23-07 12:16 AM   #146 
                    - Hey....  madfloridian   Sep-23-07 12:45 AM   #150 
                    - You responded to MY post first, and I answered you. WTF are you getting mad at?  wienerdoggie   Sep-23-07 01:00 AM   #152 
                       - You said, and I quote:  ljm2002   Sep-23-07 01:25 AM   #156 
                          - Uhhh...again, you responded to ME first, and I really don't understand why, since  wienerdoggie   Sep-23-07 01:36 AM   #157 
                             - "Deal with it."  ljm2002   Sep-23-07 01:43 AM   #158 
                                - And 20-some Democratic Senators agree with me. Can you say  wienerdoggie   Sep-23-07 01:51 AM   #159 
                                   - Out of fear of displeasing the right wing.  madfloridian   Sep-23-07 01:56 AM   #160 
        - My question is: What would you expect the General to say?  klyon   Sep-24-07 06:38 AM   #205 
        - Absolutely! It was the perfect trap  anniebelle   Sep-22-07 02:07 PM   #67 
        - I consider it VERY APPROPRIATE to as the question "betray us?" While our troops die  ShortnFiery   Sep-22-07 01:06 PM   #27 
           - I do too -- and I think the question should be focused on BushCo.  Sparkly   Sep-22-07 01:09 PM   #33 
              - Petraeus is a morally bankrupt General serving in the Army, he's NOT the military.  ShortnFiery   Sep-22-07 01:14 PM   #39 
        - That powder is so dry now  SOS   Sep-22-07 02:06 PM   #66 
  - pandering to the right as usual  leftchick   Sep-22-07 12:38 PM   #2 
  - Nobody chastized Keith Olbermann for it  sandnsea   Sep-22-07 12:41 PM   #3 
  - It has been all over the news that Petraeus was coordinating with the WH  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 12:44 PM   #5 
  - Which isn't evidence he had lied  sandnsea   Sep-22-07 12:50 PM   #11 
     - Wait, oh wait.....where did I use the word "lie" against Petraeus?  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 12:53 PM   #15 
        - Oh, that's not what the ad meant  sandnsea   Sep-22-07 01:22 PM   #42 
           - I don't give it up that easily.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 01:26 PM   #43 
              - Nobody fought for the withdrawal legislation  sandnsea   Sep-22-07 01:32 PM   #48 
                 - "phony activiism" You really said that?  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 01:33 PM   #51 
                    - General "Betrayus"?? You damn straight it's phony  sandnsea   Sep-22-07 01:38 PM   #55 
                       - I am not in code pink. I am still an activist.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 01:42 PM   #58 
                          - but you weren't  sandnsea   Sep-22-07 01:50 PM   #61 
                             - You are defending a Senate condemnation of their own party.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 01:53 PM   #63 
                                - I condemned the entire thing, both votes, all stupid  sandnsea   Sep-22-07 02:00 PM   #65 
  - BINGO....  WCGreen   Sep-22-07 12:47 PM   #7 
  - And they in congress are free to let our soldiers keep dying...  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 12:49 PM   #9 
  - Democrats did say that  sandnsea   Sep-22-07 12:52 PM   #14 
     - I didn't hear any of their comments...  WCGreen   Sep-22-07 01:01 PM   #24 
  - I think you are sadly correct when you wrote "Too many people around  conservdem   Sep-22-07 02:35 PM   #68 
  - sure ya do.,..  TankLV   Sep-22-07 09:28 PM   #114 
  - I am so damn tired of being insulted by conservative Democrats.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 09:47 PM   #118 
  - Difference is - Betrayus is already a PROVEN LIAR - the rest aren't...  TankLV   Sep-22-07 09:27 PM   #113 
  - the same standards of discourse???  ljm2002   Sep-23-07 01:12 AM   #155 
  - I think it was a public relations blunder ....  Trajan   Sep-22-07 12:47 PM   #8 
  - We will be cautious and proper to the end.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 12:51 PM   #12 
  - well ... it sounds like you have given up with any pretense of civility .....  Trajan   Sep-22-07 01:01 PM   #23 
     - You are saying I am not civil? Is that correct?  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 01:04 PM   # 
     - Your "civility" statement to me is a personal attack really.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 01:21 PM   #41 
        - It was not a personal attack ....  Trajan   Sep-22-07 04:10 PM   #74 
           - It is not the fault of anyone but the Senate Democrats. Period.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 04:29 PM   #79 
           - Actually, it is the fault of the Republicans. I am tired of Democrats  beachmom   Sep-22-07 07:16 PM   #90 
              - No, it is not. It is the fault of our party for pandering to them.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 07:44 PM   #96 
                 - I strongly disagree with the notion that a non-binding resolution vote on a  beachmom   Sep-22-07 07:52 PM   #101 
                    - Stop making stuff up.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 07:54 PM   #103 
                       - I receive e-mails from Moveon. The res. did not condemn Moveon,  beachmom   Sep-22-07 08:34 PM   #106 
                          - You are puzzled why we are mad?  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 09:10 PM   #110 
           - It WAS a personal attack - just for the record...  TankLV   Sep-22-07 09:29 PM   #115 
              - Simple ....  Trajan   Sep-22-07 11:57 PM   #141 
  - I guess we're pretty much alone in that assessment here...  PurityOfEssence   Sep-22-07 01:08 PM   #31 
     - "cutesy posts" on DU  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 01:10 PM   #35 
        - Nothing particularly arch here, I'm just referring to the many literary flourishes people make.  PurityOfEssence   Sep-22-07 07:47 PM   #97 
           - I don't do "cutesy posts", and you made it sound like I do.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 07:55 PM   #104 
           - That's hogwash: reread my post, it's clearly about the original article  PurityOfEssence   Sep-22-07 10:29 PM   #122 
           - Hey PoE. We agree - how 'bout that. Nicely stated.  Tom Rinaldo   Sep-23-07 09:01 AM   #169 
              - Yep, the vote was cheesy grandstanding  PurityOfEssence   Sep-23-07 12:40 PM   #177 
  - What's Wesley Clark talking about? Hagel didn't criticize the General, he  wienerdoggie   Sep-22-07 12:52 PM   #13 
  - I agree with your take on the manufactured controversy...  Sparkly   Sep-22-07 12:57 PM   #19 
     - Yep--it was all a set-up, and MoveOn could have  wienerdoggie   Sep-22-07 01:12 PM   #37 
        - "contradictions and problems in GenP's testimony"  Sparkly   Sep-22-07 01:16 PM   #40 
  - I don't buy this argument. MoveOn did K. Rove's work and didn't take a dime.  SteveM   Sep-22-07 12:56 PM   #17 
  - Oops....we made the Republicans all upset again.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 01:27 PM   #44 
  - No--MoveOn didn't "upset" them. MoveOn made them overjoyed by handing them ammo.  wienerdoggie   Sep-22-07 01:31 PM   #46 
     - And the Democrats told the GOP...stand back we will get those activists for you.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 01:33 PM   #49 
        - It's not about "getting" activists--it's about Dems not wanting to be  wienerdoggie   Sep-22-07 01:38 PM   #54 
           - Ok, what about swiftboating Kerry and the purple bandaids  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 01:43 PM   #60 
              - Well, Boxer tried. Repubs mostly stuck together on that vote--only  wienerdoggie   Sep-22-07 01:52 PM   #62 
  - Agree with you.  goodgd_yall   Sep-23-07 12:18 AM   #147 
  - When betrayed for years, it is ok to use the words "betray us".  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 12:56 PM   #18 
  - Bring it on, folks. Not a single one in this thread defending MoveOn  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 12:58 PM   #20 
  - I guess yo didn't read my post....  WCGreen   Sep-22-07 01:02 PM   #25 
  - I totally agree the outrage against the ad was planned. nt  Sparkly   Sep-22-07 01:04 PM   #26 
  - You are quite wrong ....  Trajan   Sep-22-07 01:06 PM   #29 
     - It is simple. Dems are hiding behind the ad as excuse for doing nothing.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 01:09 PM   #32 
     - No, Moveon is pretending the ad is doing something  sandnsea   Sep-22-07 01:33 PM   #50 
     - Yes, MoveOn should have Swift-Boated Petraeus instead. Those Ads were much more classy.  ShortnFiery   Sep-22-07 01:09 PM   #34 
        - Another problem ....  Trajan   Sep-22-07 03:57 PM   #73 
           - I don't think you appreciate the EVIL of the repukes - to win figuratively "take NO prisoners" ...  ShortnFiery   Sep-22-07 04:23 PM   #75 
  - I must admit....this thread is fascinating  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 01:12 PM   #38 
  - "barely speak good English"....unlike yourself  seriousstan   Sep-22-07 01:37 PM   #53 
  - Rack up another insult.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 01:40 PM   #57 
  - All of my life...  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 01:40 PM   #56 
  - Why does everything have to be about you?  2rth2pwr   Sep-22-07 02:40 PM   # 
  - Have you read the thread? I did not make it about me.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 02:45 PM   #70 
  - Bless you madfloridian, I truly understand.  ShortnFiery   Sep-22-07 04:25 PM   #77 
  - I guess the word "betray" hits a little too close to home. nt  polichick   Sep-22-07 01:56 PM   #64 
  - Yes, I think so.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 02:48 PM   #72 
  - This is proof positive that it just goes to show  William769   Sep-22-07 02:40 PM   #69 
  - We have "reprimanded" our own activists.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 02:47 PM   #71 
  - The Democratic establishment are a huge part of our problem.  AX10   Sep-22-07 04:24 PM   #76 
  - I'm so ashamed of our Democratic establishment. :( nt  ShortnFiery   Sep-22-07 04:27 PM   #78 
  - Agree with Consortium News that MoveOn ad was silly and allowed R's to divert debate on Iraq War.  flpoljunkie   Sep-22-07 05:01 PM   #80 
  - None of the blogs really took up for Move On.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 05:10 PM   #81 
  - George Lakoff did and George  zidzi   Sep-22-07 06:27 PM   #83 
  - I agree with Consortium News now and I did when MoveOn put this dumb ad in the NYT. Why serve them  flpoljunkie   Sep-22-07 06:33 PM   #85 
     - There was nothing wrong with the ad at all. It is cowardice speaking  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 06:35 PM   #86 
     - Well, be sure you speak in a politically correct way from now on.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 08:04 PM   #105 
  - I am not surprised that Parry undestands how the media work.  Mass   Sep-22-07 11:47 PM   #138 
     - Now wait a minute on that .  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 11:52 PM   #139 
        - We agree on that - As I said on my post, this bill should never have made it to the floor.  Mass   Sep-23-07 05:57 AM   #163 
  - MoveOn passed 1.5 million, heading for 2 million. Follow the progress.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 05:36 PM   #82 
  - I stand with MoveOn and the truth too.  stimbox   Sep-22-07 09:00 PM   #109 
  - I found the Consortium article by Robert Parry....I find it sad.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 06:29 PM   #84 
  - "a bitter lesson for the left"  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 06:41 PM   #87 
  - Yeah - and MoveOn is laughing all the way to the bank with additional MILLIONS in cash...  TankLV   Sep-22-07 09:33 PM   #116 
  - It's namecalling, MadFloridian. I didn't like it. It was childish sounding.  beachmom   Sep-22-07 07:04 PM   #88 
  - Well, at least the guy on AAR's Clout....agrees with me.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 07:16 PM   #89 
  - You're so right, there was nothing wrong with the ad...  polichick   Sep-22-07 07:24 PM   #92 
  - This is about what kind of political discourse we want to have in this country.  beachmom   Sep-22-07 07:37 PM   #93 
     - I just read Kerry's statement in the JK forum.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 07:40 PM   #94 
     - Well, he was called names and had his military record dragged through the mud.  beachmom   Sep-22-07 07:49 PM   #98 
        - That is just spin.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 07:51 PM   #100 
        - No he didn't! I don't see how you can say that. He said the surge  beachmom   Sep-22-07 08:43 PM   #107 
           - I am referring to this paragraph. The ad was NOT over the top.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 09:21 PM   #111 
        - Oh, why didn't the Democrats vote to condemn those ads?  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 07:52 PM   #102 
        - But you people just don't get it! MoveOn was telling the TRUTH - the swiftboaters were LYING  TankLV   Sep-22-07 09:36 PM   #117 
           - Exactly!  polichick   Sep-23-07 07:08 AM   #166 
     - Please don't use that "political discourse" stuff on me.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 07:43 PM   #95 
     - The words used in the ad were not out of line.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 07:49 PM   #99 
  - Having given some more thought  goodgd_yall   Sep-23-07 12:12 AM   #145 
     - All the comments go back to the fear of the right wing.  madfloridian   Sep-23-07 01:03 AM   #153 
  - Apparently the "netroots" offend the Democrats too much.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 07:23 PM   #91 
  - I think you did the right thing in refusing.  LoZoccolo   Sep-22-07 08:46 PM   #108 
     - The conservative wing of the party that wants to spread democracy....  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 09:26 PM   #112 
        - Firedoglake has made the points..  zidzi   Sep-22-07 10:29 PM   #121 
        - That was a great post, wasn't it?  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 10:34 PM   #123 
        - If only FDL had written the MoveOn ad  WesDem   Sep-23-07 07:15 AM   #167 
        - Maybe you can convince me that dwelling on this MoveOn thing will get you anything you want.  LoZoccolo   Sep-22-07 10:43 PM   #124 
           - The Senate took a formal vote on a resolution.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 10:48 PM   #126 
              - "No they didn't." "Yes they did." "No they didn't." "Yes they did."  LoZoccolo   Sep-22-07 10:51 PM   #127 
              - And actually, if they came and arrested you for posting it, you could complain about that too.  LoZoccolo   Sep-22-07 10:52 PM   #128 
                 - You sound awfully pissed over just two words with a ? after them.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 11:02 PM   #129 
                    - You are going to have to help me out.  LoZoccolo   Sep-22-07 11:17 PM   #132 
                       - You are digging the hole of insults deeper.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 11:23 PM   #133 
                          - Don't ask me why I feel this way or that if you don't want to hear the answer then.  LoZoccolo   Sep-22-07 11:40 PM   #136 
  - All of you making fun of me....watch this video.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 09:54 PM   #119 
  - Blogger says it it good to see the Senate " move on something with such alacrity!"  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 10:26 PM   #120 
  - Oh yeah, our senate is so  zidzi   Sep-22-07 10:46 PM   #125 
  - Thank you, madfloridian...  ljm2002   Sep-22-07 11:15 PM   #131 
  - Thank you. That 20% president won another round.  madfloridian   Sep-22-07 11:28 PM   #134 
  - great post, madfloridian!!  unkachuck   Sep-22-07 11:29 PM   #135 
  - We know we have been and or continuing to be betrayed, our voice  AuntPatsy   Sep-23-07 12:30 AM   #149 
  - Every argument offered goes to fear of what the right wing will do.  madfloridian   Sep-23-07 01:05 AM   #154 
  - I don't worry about how the Right will react  Tom Rinaldo   Sep-23-07 04:20 PM   #201 
  - I Would Have Voted Against The Resolution  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-23-07 05:07 AM   #161 
  - He was one  Inuca   Sep-23-07 01:28 PM   #184 
  - Oh for fucks sake.  cali   Sep-23-07 05:46 AM   #162 
  - What's Amazing  DemocratSinceBirth   Sep-23-07 06:00 AM   #164 
  - Giant step for MoveOn  cali   Sep-23-07 06:14 AM   #165 
  - You really are lecturing me a lot lately.  madfloridian   Sep-23-07 01:33 PM   #185 
  - To flesh out your little snippet collection, MF  WesDem   Sep-23-07 07:25 AM   #168 
  - Thanks, but that is just my point.  madfloridian   Sep-23-07 09:51 AM   #170 
     - It was stupid is what it was, in my opinion, and therefore incorrect  WesDem   Sep-23-07 11:01 AM   #171 
        - Don't worry, the media is on your side.  madfloridian   Sep-23-07 11:04 AM   #172 
           - I won't dignify that with a response  WesDem   Sep-23-07 11:37 AM   #173 
              - You don't have to "dignify" anything. Choosing the word "dignify" was a put down.  madfloridian   Sep-23-07 11:39 AM   #174 
                 - The politics of fear worked best for Bush - it's what you refuse to see  WesDem   Sep-23-07 12:32 PM   #175 
                    - What a sad thing to hear from you.  madfloridian   Sep-23-07 12:38 PM   #176 
                       - MF, you are polarizing this discussion by lumping together everyone...  Tom Rinaldo   Sep-23-07 12:57 PM   #178 
                          - In this case, Tom, your "nuance" led to censure by our Senate.  madfloridian   Sep-23-07 01:10 PM   #180 
                             - I respect you also MD, and admire a great deal of what you do here on DU.  Tom Rinaldo   Sep-23-07 03:35 PM   #198 
  - I didn't see them as not standing up for the right. I just saw it as a difference of opinion  LittleClarkie   Sep-23-07 01:00 PM   #179 
  - The Senate took an unprecedented step to censor an activist group  madfloridian   Sep-23-07 01:14 PM   #181 
     - I didn't think I was "all over your butt" and I wasn't against it before I was for it  LittleClarkie   Sep-23-07 01:22 PM   #182 
        - Of course the Senate had the "right". They can do whatever they want.  madfloridian   Sep-23-07 01:26 PM   #183 
        - Refusing a vote to reprimand the other side?  Inuca   Sep-23-07 01:45 PM   #187 
           - They voted down an amendment to reprimand the Swiftboaters...  madfloridian   Sep-23-07 02:06 PM   #188 
              - I know about that, but  Inuca   Sep-23-07 04:01 PM   #199 
                 - My point is that the 22 Dems should not have voted for censure  madfloridian   Sep-23-07 04:11 PM   #200 
        - "Why would that be a problem?"  LoZoccolo   Sep-23-07 05:52 PM   #202 
  - And IMHO they were right  Inuca   Sep-23-07 01:40 PM   #186 
  - It's official....in this thread the Senate won hands down.  madfloridian   Sep-23-07 02:18 PM   # 
  - Mad.... Many of us said we didn't like the Senate having that vote.  Sparkly   Sep-23-07 02:20 PM   #190 
     - Yes, some of you have said that.  madfloridian   Sep-23-07 02:25 PM   #191 
        - Some of us have agreed with you but...  polichick   Sep-23-07 02:30 PM   #192 
        - Actually I did respond to your nice post last night.  madfloridian   Sep-23-07 02:36 PM   #193 
           - I tried to support you again with #92...  polichick   Sep-23-07 02:41 PM   #194 
              - Thanks.  madfloridian   Sep-23-07 02:42 PM   #195 
                 - 'welcome! :) nt  polichick   Sep-23-07 02:51 PM   #197 
        - I don't intend to "blast."  Sparkly   Sep-23-07 02:44 PM   #196 
  - It's official....in this thread the Senate won hands down.  madfloridian   Sep-23-07 02:18 PM   #189 
  - It Really Makes Me SICK That We Can't Even Count On Those We "Thought"  ChiciB1   Sep-23-07 06:17 PM   #203 
  - I need to add another.  madfloridian   Sep-24-07 12:49 AM   #204 
  - And you would need to add that why?  LoZoccolo   Sep-24-07 02:41 PM   #207 
  - I think the leadership played it well...  LanternWaste   Sep-24-07 02:51 PM   #208 
 

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