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Sun Sep-16-07 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #31 |
| 32. Then I suggest you re-read my post |
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I edited to include the link
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| -Frank Rich: "left-wing brand of juvenile name-calling" |
beaconess |
Sep-16-07 11:49 AM |
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And that's the only paragraph in that piece I took exception to. Go figure. nt |
babylonsister |
Sep-16-07 11:51 AM |
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LOL me too |
proud2Blib |
Sep-16-07 11:55 AM |
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Bunk, I discovered the name General Betray Us in March 2007 and referred to Bush with that name. |
liberaldemocrat7 |
Sep-17-07 02:04 AM |
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I've always objected to the tactic of twisting adversaries' names in political debate |
beaconess |
Sep-16-07 11:55 AM |
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Me too. I think "Betray us?" was eye-catching, succinct & to the point. -eom |
Justitia |
Sep-16-07 12:00 PM |
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Exactly. Why do you think they howled so loud? |
ClassWarrior |
Sep-16-07 12:01 PM |
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And they are still howling... |
stimbox |
Sep-16-07 12:11 PM |
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Let 'Em Howl. And Let Them Fuck Themselves While Howling. |
Paladin |
Sep-16-07 02:47 PM |
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Right, if EVER there were a time for democratic candidates to NOT parse words NOR "play nice" ... |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 02:57 PM |
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He is right ... |
Cosmocat |
Sep-18-07 10:22 AM |
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i just wish the dems hadn't backed down |
ellenfl |
Sep-16-07 11:54 AM |
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But WAS "Defeatocrats" criticized? Or are only Democratic responses in kind taken to task? |
WinkyDink |
Sep-16-07 11:54 AM |
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It doesn't matter whether it was criticized or not. We shouldn't turn into them just because |
beaconess |
Sep-16-07 11:59 AM |
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and dont forget |
The Gunslinger |
Sep-16-07 12:50 PM |
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We want to emulate THAT? |
beaconess |
Sep-16-07 01:04 PM |
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I'd prefer not to see the name calling, but |
The Gunslinger |
Sep-16-07 01:18 PM |
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Zero upside to "Betray Us" |
BeyondGeography |
Sep-16-07 11:56 AM |
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Interesting that you ignore those in the middle. |
ClassWarrior |
Sep-16-07 11:59 AM |
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Do you have any numbers on "those in the middle" who read the substance of the ad |
beaconess |
Sep-16-07 12:04 PM |
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C'mon!! Red meat? That was mild. |
ClassWarrior |
Sep-16-07 12:07 PM |
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True dat |
gratuitous |
Sep-16-07 12:39 PM |
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Bill Schneifer , Chief Political Analyst--MoveOn AD Distraction |
OHdem10 |
Sep-16-07 11:57 AM |
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Right. Like we need to "give" them something to whine about. |
ClassWarrior |
Sep-16-07 11:58 AM |
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u nailed it. -eom |
Justitia |
Sep-16-07 12:01 PM |
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The headline got attention. But few who didn't already agree with us saw anything beyond it |
beaconess |
Sep-16-07 12:02 PM |
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I'm guessing that we compelled millions in the middle to... |
ClassWarrior |
Sep-16-07 12:04 PM |
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Not according to the polls - which shows a slight uptick in support for the war |
beaconess |
Sep-16-07 12:06 PM |
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What "polls"? Links please? |
ClassWarrior |
Sep-16-07 12:08 PM |
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And while we're waiting, I'd like to remind you that it's not a war. |
ClassWarrior |
Sep-16-07 12:17 PM |
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Lets forget this blunder and move on. |
zonkers |
Sep-16-07 11:59 AM |
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Play on his name or not |
Nite Owl |
Sep-16-07 12:02 PM |
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Then THAT's what should have been discussed - the namecalling was just stupid |
beaconess |
Sep-16-07 12:06 PM |
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There was no name calling. |
stimbox |
Sep-16-07 12:15 PM |
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It was a great ad. It was true and we are being betrayed.. |
madfloridian |
Sep-16-07 12:08 PM |
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Rich as usual expects the Democrats to appease the |
OHdem10 |
Sep-16-07 12:19 PM |
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Ah, yes - Frank Rich. Enemy of the Democrats. Of course. n/t |
beaconess |
Sep-16-07 12:20 PM |
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Still looking for the links to those "polls"? |
ClassWarrior |
Sep-16-07 12:39 PM |
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Then I suggest you re-read my post |
beaconess |
Sep-16-07 12:41 PM |
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I don't see any polls. Just Rich's opinion piece. |
ClassWarrior |
Sep-16-07 12:42 PM |
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You're reading the wrong post. Read the post that actually mentioned the polls! |
beaconess |
Sep-16-07 12:48 PM |
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The polling periods in ALL of those polls were before the ad ran. |
ClassWarrior |
Sep-16-07 01:05 PM |
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I hear crickets... |
ClassWarrior |
Sep-16-07 04:28 PM |
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You're wrong |
beaconess |
Sep-16-07 08:10 PM |
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I agree. I think effective communication ought to win out over the |
JerseygirlCT |
Sep-16-07 12:29 PM |
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Unfortunately, many on our side fell right into Bush's trap |
beaconess |
Sep-16-07 12:46 PM |
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almost as if it were sabotage from within |
Supersedeas |
Sep-18-07 10:12 AM |
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Yeah, good luck keeping us liberal democrats LOYAL to your corporate masters. |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 12:42 PM |
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Yes - Frank Rich has always been a tool of the Bush Administration |
beaconess |
Sep-16-07 12:50 PM |
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I've not ever claimed to be "a Frank Rich fan" |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 12:54 PM |
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Wes Clark agrees with you. He was on CNN this am and said |
durrrty libby |
Sep-16-07 01:00 PM |
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CNN = Corporate News Network ... Soon to be promoting the next pre-emptive war with Iran! |
ShortnFiery |
Sep-16-07 01:01 PM |
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Wes Clark is wrong about Pretraeus |
Larkspur |
Sep-16-07 04:57 PM |
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general petraeus -- the man who wants to be president 2012 |
xchrom |
Sep-16-07 01:50 PM |
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The juvenile name calling is the main reason why the |
dugggy |
Sep-17-07 02:31 AM |
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OMG |
Skittles |
Sep-17-07 02:59 AM |
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Maybe on drugs, maybe on |
DemBones DemBones |
Sep-17-07 05:07 PM |
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his name plus the fact the bastard DID betray us |
Skittles |
Sep-17-07 07:25 PM |
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Yes - Swiftboat means plenty to me - that's why I don't want us to imitate them!! |
beaconess |
Sep-17-07 08:00 PM |
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You're Playing Directly Into The Right Wing's Hands |
Paladin |
Sep-17-07 08:45 PM |
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You apparently don't know the difference between focused outrage and childish ranting n/t |
beaconess |
Sep-18-07 09:38 AM |
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I have to believe we are better than the repukes.. |
dugggy |
Sep-17-07 09:36 PM |
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PLEASE STOP IT |
Skittles |
Sep-17-07 02:57 AM |
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The "name calling" got it the publicity, otherwise it would have been |
tsuki |
Sep-17-07 06:54 AM |
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...and the publicity was uniformly negative, |
robcon |
Sep-17-07 07:25 AM |
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Depends. It played well down here. A lot of people heard about the ad and |
tsuki |
Sep-17-07 05:04 PM |
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Call him every name in the damn book |
enough already |
Sep-17-07 07:07 AM |
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The NY Times shilling for the Bush administration? |
jmp |
Sep-17-07 07:40 AM |
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I'm still waiting for Frank Rich to apologize to Al Gore |
Joe Bacon |
Sep-17-07 07:46 AM |
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Damn straight! Any of you who aren't reading |
DemBones DemBones |
Sep-17-07 05:12 PM |
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I agree |
AnnieBW |
Sep-17-07 05:11 PM |
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Oh yeah, like Frank Rich is the |
zidzi |
Sep-17-07 05:22 PM |
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