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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-16-07 12:06 PM
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19. Not according to the polls - which shows a slight uptick in support for the war
Edited on Sun Sep-16-07 12:16 PM by beaconess
Whether or not the ad turned people off, it certainly appears that it didn't bring anyone over to our side.

Associated Press - Bush's handling of the war (9/10-12):

Approve 33% (up from 32% in August)
Disapprove 65% (down from 66% in August)
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  -Frank Rich: "left-wing brand of juvenile name-calling" beaconess  Sep-16-07 11:49 AM   #0 
  - And that's the only paragraph in that piece I took exception to. Go figure. nt  babylonsister   Sep-16-07 11:51 AM   #1 
  - LOL me too  proud2Blib   Sep-16-07 11:55 AM   #4 
  - Bunk, I discovered the name General Betray Us in March 2007 and referred to Bush with that name.  liberaldemocrat7   Sep-17-07 02:04 AM   #51 
  - I've always objected to the tactic of twisting adversaries' names in political debate  beaconess   Sep-16-07 11:55 AM   #5 
  - Me too. I think "Betray us?" was eye-catching, succinct & to the point. -eom  Justitia   Sep-16-07 12:00 PM   #12 
     - Exactly. Why do you think they howled so loud?  ClassWarrior   Sep-16-07 12:01 PM   #14 
        - And they are still howling...  stimbox   Sep-16-07 12:11 PM   #24 
           - Let 'Em Howl. And Let Them Fuck Themselves While Howling.  Paladin   Sep-16-07 02:47 PM   #46 
              - Right, if EVER there were a time for democratic candidates to NOT parse words NOR "play nice" ...  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 02:57 PM   #47 
              - He is right ...  Cosmocat   Sep-18-07 10:22 AM   #71 
  - i just wish the dems hadn't backed down  ellenfl   Sep-16-07 11:54 AM   #2 
  - But WAS "Defeatocrats" criticized? Or are only Democratic responses in kind taken to task?  WinkyDink   Sep-16-07 11:54 AM   #3 
  - It doesn't matter whether it was criticized or not. We shouldn't turn into them just because  beaconess   Sep-16-07 11:59 AM   #9 
  - and dont forget  The Gunslinger   Sep-16-07 12:50 PM   #37 
     - We want to emulate THAT?  beaconess   Sep-16-07 01:04 PM   #42 
        - I'd prefer not to see the name calling, but  The Gunslinger   Sep-16-07 01:18 PM   #44 
  - Zero upside to "Betray Us"  BeyondGeography   Sep-16-07 11:56 AM   #6 
  - Interesting that you ignore those in the middle.  ClassWarrior   Sep-16-07 11:59 AM   #11 
     - Do you have any numbers on "those in the middle" who read the substance of the ad  beaconess   Sep-16-07 12:04 PM   #18 
        - C'mon!! Red meat? That was mild.  ClassWarrior   Sep-16-07 12:07 PM   #21 
        - True dat  gratuitous   Sep-16-07 12:39 PM   #30 
  - Bill Schneifer , Chief Political Analyst--MoveOn AD Distraction  OHdem10   Sep-16-07 11:57 AM   #7 
  - Right. Like we need to "give" them something to whine about.  ClassWarrior   Sep-16-07 11:58 AM   #8 
  - u nailed it. -eom  Justitia   Sep-16-07 12:01 PM   #13 
  - The headline got attention. But few who didn't already agree with us saw anything beyond it  beaconess   Sep-16-07 12:02 PM   #15 
     - I'm guessing that we compelled millions in the middle to...  ClassWarrior   Sep-16-07 12:04 PM   #17 
        - Not according to the polls - which shows a slight uptick in support for the war  beaconess   Sep-16-07 12:06 PM   #19 
           - What "polls"? Links please?  ClassWarrior   Sep-16-07 12:08 PM   #23 
              - And while we're waiting, I'd like to remind you that it's not a war.  ClassWarrior   Sep-16-07 12:17 PM   #26 
  - Lets forget this blunder and move on.  zonkers   Sep-16-07 11:59 AM   #10 
  - Play on his name or not  Nite Owl   Sep-16-07 12:02 PM   #16 
  - Then THAT's what should have been discussed - the namecalling was just stupid  beaconess   Sep-16-07 12:06 PM   #20 
     - There was no name calling.  stimbox   Sep-16-07 12:15 PM   #25 
  - It was a great ad. It was true and we are being betrayed..  madfloridian   Sep-16-07 12:08 PM   #22 
  - Rich as usual expects the Democrats to appease the  OHdem10   Sep-16-07 12:19 PM   #27 
  - Ah, yes - Frank Rich. Enemy of the Democrats. Of course. n/t  beaconess   Sep-16-07 12:20 PM   #28 
     - Still looking for the links to those "polls"?  ClassWarrior   Sep-16-07 12:39 PM   #31 
        - Then I suggest you re-read my post  beaconess   Sep-16-07 12:41 PM   #32 
           - I don't see any polls. Just Rich's opinion piece.  ClassWarrior   Sep-16-07 12:42 PM   #34 
              - You're reading the wrong post. Read the post that actually mentioned the polls!  beaconess   Sep-16-07 12:48 PM   #36 
                 - The polling periods in ALL of those polls were before the ad ran.  ClassWarrior   Sep-16-07 01:05 PM   #43 
                    - I hear crickets...  ClassWarrior   Sep-16-07 04:28 PM   #48 
                    - You're wrong  beaconess   Sep-16-07 08:10 PM   #50 
  - I agree. I think effective communication ought to win out over the  JerseygirlCT   Sep-16-07 12:29 PM   #29 
  - Unfortunately, many on our side fell right into Bush's trap  beaconess   Sep-16-07 12:46 PM   #35 
  - almost as if it were sabotage from within  Supersedeas   Sep-18-07 10:12 AM   #70 
  - Yeah, good luck keeping us liberal democrats LOYAL to your corporate masters.  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 12:42 PM   #33 
  - Yes - Frank Rich has always been a tool of the Bush Administration  beaconess   Sep-16-07 12:50 PM   #38 
     - I've not ever claimed to be "a Frank Rich fan"  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 12:54 PM   #39 
  - Wes Clark agrees with you. He was on CNN this am and said  durrrty libby   Sep-16-07 01:00 PM   #40 
  - CNN = Corporate News Network ... Soon to be promoting the next pre-emptive war with Iran!  ShortnFiery   Sep-16-07 01:01 PM   #41 
  - Wes Clark is wrong about Pretraeus  Larkspur   Sep-16-07 04:57 PM   #49 
  - general petraeus -- the man who wants to be president 2012  xchrom   Sep-16-07 01:50 PM   #45 
  - The juvenile name calling is the main reason why the  dugggy   Sep-17-07 02:31 AM   #52 
  - OMG  Skittles   Sep-17-07 02:59 AM   #54 
     - Maybe on drugs, maybe on  DemBones DemBones   Sep-17-07 05:07 PM   #61 
     - his name plus the fact the bastard DID betray us  Skittles   Sep-17-07 07:25 PM   #65 
     - Yes - Swiftboat means plenty to me - that's why I don't want us to imitate them!!  beaconess   Sep-17-07 08:00 PM   #66 
     - You're Playing Directly Into The Right Wing's Hands  Paladin   Sep-17-07 08:45 PM   #67 
        - You apparently don't know the difference between focused outrage and childish ranting n/t  beaconess   Sep-18-07 09:38 AM   #69 
     - I have to believe we are better than the repukes..  dugggy   Sep-17-07 09:36 PM   #68 
  - PLEASE STOP IT  Skittles   Sep-17-07 02:57 AM   #53 
  - The "name calling" got it the publicity, otherwise it would have been  tsuki   Sep-17-07 06:54 AM   #55 
  - ...and the publicity was uniformly negative,  robcon   Sep-17-07 07:25 AM   #57 
     - Depends. It played well down here. A lot of people heard about the ad and  tsuki   Sep-17-07 05:04 PM   #60 
  - Call him every name in the damn book  enough already   Sep-17-07 07:07 AM   #56 
  - The NY Times shilling for the Bush administration?  jmp   Sep-17-07 07:40 AM   #58 
  - I'm still waiting for Frank Rich to apologize to Al Gore  Joe Bacon   Sep-17-07 07:46 AM   #59 
  - Damn straight! Any of you who aren't reading  DemBones DemBones   Sep-17-07 05:12 PM   #63 
  - I agree  AnnieBW   Sep-17-07 05:11 PM   #62 
  - Oh yeah, like Frank Rich is the  zidzi   Sep-17-07 05:22 PM   #64 

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