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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-17-07 09:53 AM
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71. Some think, Clinton was behind Clark running last time
If he endorses any one I think it would be Clinton, and if Gore endorses anyone it will be John Edwards...however I think Gore will be in the running with Edwards as VP
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  -Does anyone else think that Clark's endorsement doesn't really help Clinton much? PurityOfEssence  Sep-16-07 12:21 AM   #0 
  - Yes.  hisownpetard   Sep-16-07 12:28 AM   #1 
  - I'm not sure it matters that much--it would be a surprise if he DIDN'T  wienerdoggie   Sep-16-07 12:29 AM   #2 
  - i agree  jcrew2001   Sep-20-07 10:59 PM   #108 
  - I think it won't matter much in the end.  Kagemusha   Sep-16-07 12:29 AM   #3 
  - One thing it could do is educate people on the IWR.  jobycom   Sep-16-07 12:34 AM   #4 
  - Let's see if this means the end of the "I can't vote for anyone who voted for IWR" mantra  1932   Sep-16-07 12:42 AM   #5 
  - Many Clark supporters will not support Hillary Clinton just because  FrenchieCat   Sep-16-07 12:56 AM   #9 
  - Very well stated.  jobycom   Sep-16-07 08:34 AM   #18 
  - Speaking about cute populists, I liked your post about going to the Obama event in SF  1932   Sep-16-07 08:56 AM   #19 
  - In reference to my Obama post, you actually left out the prime factors  FrenchieCat   Sep-16-07 11:02 AM   #32 
     - Oh, no. I read it. And I found this part persuasive:  1932   Sep-17-07 08:04 AM   #67 
  - Well stated. Kucinich gets my vote in the primaries.  Totally Committed   Sep-16-07 09:06 AM   #21 
     - Then get off DU.  jobycom   Sep-16-07 09:27 AM   #25 
     - The self-righteous should go first.  Pithy Cherub   Sep-16-07 10:06 AM   #30 
     - Do you know how nasty that was, or do you just enjoy being unpleasant?  Totally Committed   Sep-16-07 12:20 PM   #43 
     - Last I checked, Kucinich had a "D" after his name  Capn Sunshine   Sep-21-07 12:32 PM   #115 
     - Are you really a Democrat?  Apollo11   Sep-17-07 05:42 AM   #64 
     - The republican party  BigDDem   Sep-17-07 08:29 AM   #69 
     - You could always write in another Dem - even Bill  jcrew2001   Sep-20-07 11:02 PM   #109 
  - It won't for me. I don't care who endorses her,  Totally Committed   Sep-16-07 09:04 AM   #20 
     - THAT'll show her!  beaconess   Sep-16-07 11:43 AM   #38 
        - See, I already KNOW she doesn't care about me, or anything but getting elected...  Totally Committed   Sep-16-07 12:21 PM   #44 
  - Not true! Clark spoke to Congress arguing against the IWR in its form  earthlover   Sep-16-07 07:15 AM   #15 
  - False, False, and more false. That's just plain factually wrong.  jobycom   Sep-16-07 09:25 AM   #24 
     - No, you are incorrect........  FrenchieCat   Sep-16-07 11:05 AM   #33 
        - You read it, it's someone's mistaken opinion, not fact.  jobycom   Sep-16-07 11:23 AM   #36 
           - Read the transcripts of his actual words, in FULL, then.  Sparkly   Sep-16-07 12:23 PM   #46 
              - Exactly. AND he argued FOR the IWR. Do you finally get it?  jobycom   Sep-16-07 03:18 PM   #48 
                 - So if he was on CNN stating "No Blank Check".....  FrenchieCat   Sep-16-07 05:42 PM   #51 
                    - You are right....Clark opposed the IWR  earthlover   Sep-16-07 06:13 PM   #53 
                    - Some other things he says in that transcript:  1932   Sep-17-07 08:23 AM   # 
                    - "Any IWR" -- oh good grief...  Sparkly   Sep-17-07 08:40 AM   #70 
                    - Are you saying...  CarolNYC   Sep-17-07 01:54 PM   #76 
                    - Some other things he says in that transcript:  1932   Sep-17-07 08:23 AM   #68 
                       - Well, I don't know about you, BUT......  FrenchieCat   Sep-17-07 03:59 PM   #77 
                       - Hey 1932, I have I think some useful advice  Tom Rinaldo   Sep-17-07 05:01 PM   #82 
                          - Where have I called Clark a liar?  1932   Sep-17-07 09:58 PM   #85 
                             - Yeah, take Tom's advice  Texas_Kat   Sep-17-07 10:06 PM   #86 
                             - I could care less about persuading anyone to vote for anyone. I'm interested in understanding  1932   Sep-17-07 10:36 PM   #89 
                                - They say the third time is the charm  Texas_Kat   Sep-18-07 01:26 AM   #96 
                                   - What have I gotten wrong?  1932   Sep-18-07 07:39 AM   #98 
                                      - I think it's a fundemental failure to grasp what makes Clark tick  Tom Rinaldo   Sep-18-07 10:43 AM   #99 
                                         - Throw the dog a bone! So, you don't think I got any facts wrong. You just think I can't  1932   Sep-20-07 12:41 AM   #100 
                                            - You don't give me the correct option  Tom Rinaldo   Sep-20-07 02:38 AM   #101 
                                               - What do you think about post 46?  1932   Sep-20-07 05:34 AM   #102 
                                               - I'm a little confused about your question  Tom Rinaldo   Sep-20-07 10:34 AM   #103 
                                               - " You are selectively interpretting and thereby distorting the meaning..."  1932   Sep-20-07 09:05 PM   #105 
                                               - Sort of  Tom Rinaldo   Sep-20-07 09:25 PM   #106 
                                               - I read your argument this way: a flat out statement of opinion is beyond criticism (and rebuttal).  1932   Sep-20-07 10:41 PM   #107 
                                               - I would never say that a flat out statement of opinion is beyond criticism  Tom Rinaldo   Sep-20-07 11:04 PM   #110 
                             - You inserted your own little "paraphrase" under the quote.  Sparkly   Sep-17-07 10:11 PM   #87 
                                - My paraphrase is exactly that. Nothing I say in that paragraph isn't said by Clark in the quote  1932   Sep-17-07 10:34 PM   #88 
                                   - If your paraphrase is exactly what he said in the quote, just post THE QUOTE.  Sparkly   Sep-17-07 10:43 PM   #90 
                                      - Uhm. Hello. I DID post the quote. Which of my two sentences do you think isn't supported by it?  1932   Sep-17-07 10:45 PM   #91 
                                         - Both of them. But my question is: Why post anything beyond his quote?  Sparkly   Sep-17-07 10:47 PM   #92 
                                            - Why does it matter if the paraphrase is 100% accurate?  1932   Sep-17-07 10:54 PM   #93 
                                               - Why paraphrase at all? If you want to present Clark's words, present Clark's words.  Sparkly   Sep-17-07 10:56 PM   #94 
                                                  - Read my edited post to which you are responding.  1932   Sep-17-07 10:59 PM   #95 
  - Sure, because that approach worked SO WELL for John Kerry.  Radical Activist   Sep-16-07 07:14 PM   #58 
  - What is all the fuss about anyway. endorsements are just famous people making public  illinoisprogressive   Sep-16-07 12:42 AM   #6 
  - I have to be honest: I find this post rather disingenuous since you post every Obama endorsement  AZBlue   Sep-16-07 03:31 PM   #49 
  - interesting -- yep, its turning into a real horse race  wildhorses   Sep-16-07 12:45 AM   #7 
  - Well that takes away clark's vote,I hate Hillary and her  az chela   Sep-16-07 12:45 AM   #8 
  - Excuse me  spag68   Sep-16-07 01:18 AM   #10 
  - You're not going to vote for Clark because you hate Hillary??  Maribelle   Sep-16-07 09:14 AM   #22 
  - Save your hate for the GOP  Apollo11   Sep-17-07 05:46 AM   #65 
  - If it's not helping....it sure is getting attention......  FrenchieCat   Sep-16-07 01:22 AM   #11 
  - Sure it helps her...  MonkeyFunk   Sep-16-07 01:26 AM   #12 
  - I was discussing the Veep thing with my hubby......  FrenchieCat   Sep-16-07 01:31 AM   #13 
     - Frenchie, I think she's gonna do it  48percenter   Sep-16-07 03:20 AM   #14 
     - I thought Clark would have helped Kerry win in 04  earthlover   Sep-16-07 07:34 AM   #16 
     - Frenchie... I think it's a done deal.  Totally Committed   Sep-16-07 12:23 PM   #47 
  - It doesn't help her if I really, really, really don't want it to.  pampango   Sep-16-07 08:02 AM   #17 
  - Clark's endorsement reveals the growing military distrust of republicans.  Maribelle   Sep-16-07 09:19 AM   #23 
  - I think it does help--with Iraq at the forefront, a nod from Clark is gold.  Evergreen Emerald   Sep-16-07 09:32 AM   #26 
  - Clark's very inspiring speech at Yearly Kos sounded like that from a  Catchawave   Sep-16-07 09:32 AM   #27 
  - Of course it helps - Clark has a huge following and that matters  sampsonblk   Sep-16-07 09:51 AM   #28 
  - Just the endorsement no,  seasonedblue   Sep-16-07 10:04 AM   #29 
  - Sure it helps her with the nomination, but it helps her win the Presidency more.  Tom Rinaldo   Sep-16-07 10:55 AM   #31 
  - Only if you're supporting another candidate  beaconess   Sep-16-07 11:13 AM   #34 
  - spot on analysis there n/t  CarolNYC   Sep-17-07 01:48 PM   #74 
  - It was just a matter of time (likewise, Richardson's Hillary endorsement will not be a surprise).  Tejanocrat   Sep-16-07 11:13 AM   #35 
  - I don't think the endorsement will do much..  sendero   Sep-16-07 11:34 AM   #37 
  - "Does anyone else think that Clark's endorsement doesn't really help Clinton much? "  William769   Sep-16-07 11:49 AM   #39 
  - Clark is not a Dem favorite  the other one   Sep-16-07 11:56 AM   #40 
  - Just asking-- Is this post done by an Obama Supporter????  OHdem10   Sep-16-07 12:01 PM   #41 
  - No, actually; I'm a pretty partisan Edwards supporter and have been for quite some time  PurityOfEssence   Sep-17-07 01:41 AM   #62 
  - In the end it probably hurts Clark more than it helps Clinton  Milo_Bloom   Sep-16-07 12:05 PM   #42 
  - You are mixing what some Clark supporters believe with what Clark believes.....  FrenchieCat   Sep-16-07 05:55 PM   #52 
  - Like I said in the post, some think one way, some the other.  Milo_Bloom   Sep-16-07 06:43 PM   #54 
  - It also reaffirms those who felt that Clark  Radical Activist   Sep-16-07 07:17 PM   #59 
     - Only in their own minds, perhaps.  Sparkly   Sep-16-07 07:20 PM   #60 
        - Secret Plan?  Radical Activist   Sep-17-07 11:25 AM   #72 
  - I sure think it does help, but I'm not sure how much it does. nt  Sparkly   Sep-16-07 12:22 PM   #45 
  - It boosted her in my opinion.  AZBlue   Sep-16-07 03:32 PM   #50 
  - I would rather have Clark's endorsement over Oprah's. n/t  MiltonF   Sep-16-07 06:46 PM   #55 
  - I does not help. Also, people have sent emails in requesting to be removed  Ethelk2044   Sep-16-07 06:47 PM   #56 
  - Actually, the best thing you get with WKC's endorsement is ...  Texas_Kat   Sep-17-07 07:09 PM   #83 
     - Oh god yes, you're right.  seasonedblue   Sep-17-07 07:15 PM   #84 
  - Its pretty meaningless.  Radical Activist   Sep-16-07 07:12 PM   #57 
  - I think that depends on whether I support Hillary or not. If I do, then yes, it helps. If I don't...  renie408   Sep-16-07 07:33 PM   #61 
  - Yes...it definitely is interesting!  wlucinda   Sep-17-07 02:16 AM   #63 
  - I'm disappointed. I thought he was serious about stopping an attack on Iran  eridani   Sep-17-07 06:48 AM   #66 
  - The other two top candidats hve rattled some sabers just as loudly  Tom Rinaldo   Sep-17-07 11:38 AM   #73 
  - I refuse to accept a coronation  eridani   Sep-17-07 04:42 PM   #80 
  - Dont' worry....  CarolNYC   Sep-17-07 01:49 PM   #75 
     - I'm hopling he is prepared to publicly confront her if she goes along with the Bush plans  eridani   Sep-17-07 04:43 PM   #81 
  - Some think, Clinton was behind Clark running last time  surfermaw   Sep-17-07 09:53 AM   #71 
  - I'm just curious as to why you think Gore would endorse Edwards  FrenchieCat   Sep-17-07 04:01 PM   #78 
     - Rewriting history, Frenchie.  madfloridian   Sep-20-07 10:54 AM   #104 
        - Good points MF.  JNelson6563   Sep-21-07 05:25 AM   #111 
        - You make good points about Gore's endorsement, but I take issue  Tom Rinaldo   Sep-21-07 12:27 PM   #114 
  - The endoresment is essentially meaningless.  Carrieyazel   Sep-17-07 04:28 PM   #79 
  - I don't think any endorsements mean much  Skittles   Sep-18-07 02:05 AM   #97 
  - I agree about Obama's getting a bump.  janx   Sep-21-07 11:33 AM   #112 
  - Endoresements rarely mean much, IMO.  robcon   Sep-21-07 11:54 AM   #113 
 

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