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Mon Aug-27-07 09:07 PM
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He has apologized for his vote for the IWR.
At the request of Kerry, he spoke at and attended Bilderberg in 2003.
He was never a member of the DLC and repeatedly turned down invitations to join
He did not run as the VP on an all-DLC ticket. He wasn't DLC.
He still doesn't support same-sex marriage. Except for Kucinich and Gravel, he is the most progressive on GLBT issues: in favor of civil unions, in favor of eradication of discriminations under the law, for full repeal of DOMA.
He hasn't changed dramatically. The Edwards you hear today is different that cardboard cutout that is the portrayal some Dem opponents made of him in 2004. Except for the IWR vote, which he clearly wishes he could recant, there have been no major changes except that he doesn't have Bob Shrum with a editing machine between you and him. The Edwards you hear today is the same Edwards who fought corporate indifference in courtrooms. The Edwards you hear today is the same one who talked about his father was mistreated by a textile company that had fought the unions for years. You can trust him. Listen to his passion when he speaks. If he was a good enough actor to fake that, he would be President already.
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| -Do you know ANYTHING about John Edwards career as a lawyer??? |
LSK |
Aug-24-07 01:45 PM |
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John Edwards was also reputed by his peers to be the best trial attorney in America |
saracat |
Aug-24-07 01:50 PM |
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I haven't seen the movie - does Cuba have government-sponsored health care? |
iconocrastic |
Aug-25-07 01:01 AM |
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EVERY industrialised nation except the US does n/t |
Prophet 451 |
Aug-25-07 11:39 AM |
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A nonsequitur if there ever was one. |
iconocrastic |
Aug-25-07 05:49 PM |
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All I know is he made tens of Millions of dollars by winning over juries |
dugggy |
Aug-26-07 07:49 PM |
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He has a big house. |
Midlodemocrat |
Aug-24-07 01:51 PM |
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and he pays too much for haircuts. |
youthere |
Aug-24-07 01:52 PM |
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and really, isn't that all we need to know? |
closeupready |
Aug-24-07 02:04 PM |
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You don't want to know how much Hillary spends on her hair .. trust me. |
Hieronymus |
Aug-24-07 10:42 PM |
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All of it? |
LittleClarkie |
Aug-27-07 09:14 PM |
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and expensive hair |
LSK |
Aug-24-07 01:52 PM |
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BFD, they all do |
benny05 |
Aug-24-07 02:14 PM |
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Actually, no he didn't. He's just a big contributor. |
Midlodemocrat |
Aug-24-07 02:32 PM |
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Ok, he gave a few million |
benny05 |
Aug-24-07 02:36 PM |
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I think you are missing the tone of the post and the responses. |
Midlodemocrat |
Aug-24-07 02:41 PM |
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Thanks for the clarification |
benny05 |
Aug-24-07 02:43 PM |
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YES in fact if your water source doesn't come from a lake that is infested with mosquitos |
noahmijo |
Aug-25-07 12:35 PM |
#90 |
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You mean Soros doesn't shave his head and sleep in a lean-to? |
Ken Burch |
Aug-24-07 10:34 PM |
#52 |
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you just described me 5 years ago.... LOL n/t |
themartyred |
Aug-25-07 12:20 AM |
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and the wrong kind of light bulbs! |
huskerlaw |
Aug-24-07 02:17 PM |
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...and he's ruggedly handsome. |
IndyOp |
Aug-24-07 02:48 PM |
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FDR lived in a big house, and did more to promote a middle class |
Hieronymus |
Aug-24-07 10:40 PM |
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Refer to post #25. |
Midlodemocrat |
Aug-24-07 10:46 PM |
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...and lays on the Southern accent a little too much at times... |
FormerRushFan |
Aug-25-07 04:57 AM |
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“The only thing that today’s corporate media can throw at him is smears and fag jokes” |
Just-plain-Kathy |
Aug-25-07 11:02 AM |
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He's not Laying it on |
meowomon |
Aug-25-07 12:28 PM |
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You DO understand that I was joining in to the sarcastic "criticisms" listed above... right? |
FormerRushFan |
Aug-25-07 02:39 PM |
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Yes, the size of his house doesn't matter. But....I think his judgment.... |
indie_ana_500 |
Aug-25-07 11:20 AM |
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oh come ON please |
Donnachaidh |
Aug-25-07 12:59 PM |
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That's my opinion, like it or not. It's a mansion..not a house. |
indie_ana_500 |
Aug-26-07 07:19 AM |
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I agree. |
alteredstate |
Aug-26-07 12:03 PM |
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But, there are such glaring inconsistencies... I WANT TO BELIEVE WHAT HE'S SAYING! |
Totally Committed |
Aug-24-07 02:00 PM |
#5 |
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... |
LSK |
Aug-24-07 02:04 PM |
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I appreciated his apology for his votes on IWR and the Patriot Act. |
Totally Committed |
Aug-24-07 02:28 PM |
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That list still includes Al Gore and many other people who are not still in office |
karynnj |
Aug-24-07 02:37 PM |
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I have a very complete list, but no link for it. |
Totally Committed |
Aug-24-07 02:39 PM |
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Here's the 2005 Complete List, as it appeared before it was removed from the site: |
Totally Committed |
Aug-24-07 02:52 PM |
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Edwards was NEVER in the DLC |
DemDogs |
Aug-27-07 09:09 PM |
#128 |
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From what I understand about the meeting |
LSK |
Aug-24-07 02:38 PM |
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You don't know how he went from a world-class corporatist to a roaring populist? |
Totally Committed |
Aug-24-07 02:41 PM |
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did you read the OP???? |
LSK |
Aug-24-07 02:46 PM |
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His attendance of the Bilderberg conferences is a bigger indication of that, than his former DLC |
Totally Committed |
Aug-24-07 02:57 PM |
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heres a link for you |
LSK |
Aug-24-07 03:03 PM |
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"Your loose associations without any concrete details are meaningless..."????? |
Totally Committed |
Aug-24-07 03:15 PM |
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I withdrew that line with the edit |
LSK |
Aug-24-07 03:20 PM |
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Thank you for that. |
Viva_La_Revolution |
Aug-25-07 11:21 AM |
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Don't you think one might go to find out what they think? Geez. I would |
saracat |
Aug-24-07 04:09 PM |
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They don't change. You know that already, though. |
valerief |
Aug-24-07 03:08 PM |
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What world class corporatist? |
NCevilDUer |
Aug-24-07 04:04 PM |
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"Roaring populist" is good! You've succumbed to the media's spin. |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Aug-25-07 01:45 PM |
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the links do not show that those are current members |
hfojvt |
Aug-24-07 03:13 PM |
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I was "challenged" to prove that Edwards and Kerry were DLC when they ran in 2004. |
Totally Committed |
Aug-24-07 03:19 PM |
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hi |
themartyred |
Aug-25-07 12:28 AM |
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I would never vote for a Republican. |
Totally Committed |
Aug-25-07 08:38 AM |
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I understand your frustration with the politicians |
themartyred |
Aug-25-07 12:53 PM |
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Yours was not the "FU" post... I should have been clear about that. |
Totally Committed |
Aug-25-07 01:18 PM |
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thanks you too. n/t |
themartyred |
Aug-25-07 02:23 PM |
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But which of them have repudiated the DLC, turned their backs |
NCevilDUer |
Aug-24-07 04:00 PM |
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Gore has never repudiated the DLC |
provis99 |
Aug-25-07 12:24 AM |
#60 |
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Here are some specific ideas to help the poor |
draft_mario_cuomo |
Aug-25-07 11:53 AM |
#86 |
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Why do you need someone else to confirm this for you? |
loudsue |
Aug-25-07 09:29 AM |
#76 |
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You are expressing frustration with the Democratic Party, not a candidate |
yardwork |
Aug-25-07 12:35 PM |
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I'm hoping |
Truth2Tell |
Aug-25-07 12:58 PM |
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"I WANT TO BELIEVE WHAT HE'S SAYING!" |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Aug-25-07 01:36 PM |
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Here's your answer |
DemDogs |
Aug-27-07 09:07 PM |
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I didn't know the specifics that you listed, but I did know his reputation |
napi21 |
Aug-24-07 02:01 PM |
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did you see this? |
LSK |
Aug-24-07 02:06 PM |
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Yes I did. It ISN'T what he says, it's the lack of passion I guess. |
napi21 |
Aug-24-07 02:14 PM |
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well you know what they do when a candidate shows passion |
LSK |
Aug-24-07 02:17 PM |
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Very good points, btw. (n/t) |
Totally Committed |
Aug-24-07 02:58 PM |
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I agree. |
H2O Man |
Aug-24-07 02:05 PM |
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For anyone who cares to learn more |
huskerlaw |
Aug-24-07 02:16 PM |
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I'm famliar with his voting career in the Congress. |
AtomicKitten |
Aug-24-07 02:32 PM |
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Maybe you can answer this question then... |
slipslidingaway |
Aug-24-07 02:32 PM |
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I googled and could not find anything on this |
LSK |
Aug-24-07 02:45 PM |
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No other candidate and only a few in Congress have stepped |
slipslidingaway |
Aug-24-07 05:13 PM |
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Actually- your post makes one wonder even more |
depakid |
Aug-24-07 02:58 PM |
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That's all I'm trying to say! |
Totally Committed |
Aug-24-07 03:04 PM |
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his plan DOES NOT throw money at insurers, it puts them out of business |
LSK |
Aug-24-07 03:05 PM |
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Edwards' "plan" doesn't address the major problems- |
depakid |
Aug-24-07 03:20 PM |
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ok, dont read his plan |
LSK |
Aug-24-07 03:29 PM |
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You don't get it. |
depakid |
Aug-24-07 04:26 PM |
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Don't confuse Edwards' querulous "doubters" with facts. They form their |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Aug-25-07 01:50 PM |
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I don't know. Maybe he wanted to get on the inside and see how |
NCevilDUer |
Aug-25-07 10:52 AM |
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Thanks LSK... AND Here We Go Again!! There Are Times When Some |
ChiciB1 |
Aug-24-07 03:31 PM |
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Yep. And that's why the Rovian tactic is to attack him for being a trial lawyer. |
cui bono |
Aug-24-07 04:48 PM |
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I learned all this four years ago! |
WTF cubed |
Aug-24-07 05:16 PM |
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kick |
usregimechange |
Aug-24-07 11:23 PM |
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I know he was a bullshitter back then too - shades of Bill Frist/Terry Schiaffo |
The Count |
Aug-24-07 11:27 PM |
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John Edwards can talk to the dead. |
rucky |
Aug-25-07 12:40 AM |
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They dedicated a South Park episode to him too! |
The Count |
Aug-25-07 09:34 AM |
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Nonsense. I've been in the healthcare field for more than 20 years. |
yardwork |
Aug-25-07 12:29 PM |
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Pretending to speak for the dead/comatose to achieve one's agenda - is what |
The Count |
Aug-26-07 06:56 PM |
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Tucker Carlson? Is that you? |
ColonelTom |
Aug-26-07 11:26 PM |
#120 |
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Not parotting anything. This is about his personal actions, not tarnishing |
The Count |
Aug-27-07 05:25 PM |
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I can't imagine anyone having a problem with this.I think this is a brilliant and hearfelt statement |
saracat |
Aug-25-07 01:58 PM |
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No, I tend to use my own brains - whether addressing a jury, a judge or posting |
The Count |
Aug-26-07 06:52 PM |
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So Now you attack his juries? Right every case Edwards won it was |
saracat |
Aug-26-07 07:42 PM |
#114 |
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Again with the jealousy from you guys! |
The Count |
Aug-26-07 09:31 PM |
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The entire world knows how that case ended I believe it was one if not the largest award in NC h |
saracat |
Aug-26-07 10:09 PM |
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The entire world? My, my, my - what a small world yours is! |
The Count |
Aug-27-07 09:38 AM |
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The case outcome was in the NY Times link YOU provided! How small is your world that it doesn't |
saracat |
Aug-27-07 12:22 PM |
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A successful con is still a con - still dishonest and crass |
The Count |
Aug-27-07 05:21 PM |
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Not so.And that is certainly not the judgement of his clients. |
saracat |
Aug-27-07 07:46 PM |
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A closing argument, not a political speech. HE WAS HER LAWYER!! |
ColonelTom |
Aug-25-07 02:15 PM |
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I didn't bring his legal career as reinforcement for his character. You guys did! |
The Count |
Aug-26-07 09:37 PM |
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K&R.nt |
nam78_two |
Aug-24-07 11:50 PM |
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Amazing how people fail to actually research the candidate, but... |
Stand and Fight |
Aug-25-07 02:26 AM |
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In the broad landscape, please give me John Edwards' model of the U.S. justice |
Old Crusoe |
Aug-25-07 04:14 AM |
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deleted - wrong thread s/b in upper thread... sorry n/t |
FormerRushFan |
Aug-25-07 04:56 AM |
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I DO! And that's why I support him! (n/t) |
Triana |
Aug-25-07 07:21 AM |
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I have some direct info. |
Chalco |
Aug-25-07 07:29 AM |
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That is what I've always heard too. |
Inspired |
Aug-25-07 08:44 AM |
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I've heard the same from a close assiociate in the NC state legal system |
Old Crusoe |
Aug-25-07 08:47 AM |
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He Was Making A Fortune To Sue Corporations |
MannyGoldstein |
Aug-25-07 08:44 AM |
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Shows your ignorance of how the legal system works.... |
Blackhatjack |
Aug-25-07 11:23 AM |
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My Point Is He's No Ralph Nader - It's Always About Money For Edwards |
MannyGoldstein |
Aug-25-07 01:46 PM |
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You are right he is no Nader.Nader ran on ego alone and didn't give a damn if he destroyed the |
saracat |
Aug-25-07 02:00 PM |
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lets see, he CONSULTED with the hedge fund... |
LSK |
Aug-25-07 03:13 PM |
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Which hedge fund is Al Gore involved in? NT |
NYCGirl |
Aug-26-07 12:07 PM |
#111 |
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Then why didn't he return the money from the subprime loans? |
The Count |
Aug-26-07 09:40 PM |
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Serendipity is a particularly wonderful thing when it benefits everyone. |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Aug-25-07 02:07 PM |
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IF you want to know about Edwards' resolve in facing off with corporations, ask opposing counsel.... |
Blackhatjack |
Aug-25-07 09:10 AM |
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Jesus, this is a great post. Thank you. |
Old Crusoe |
Aug-25-07 09:15 AM |
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I've heard the same thing |
DemDogs |
Aug-27-07 09:18 PM |
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On the day of the trial for the little girl---faulty pump |
surfermaw |
Aug-25-07 10:56 AM |
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whenever John Edwards was making a closing argument, the courtroom was always full...n/t |
Blackhatjack |
Aug-25-07 11:19 AM |
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I agree |
twominuteshate |
Aug-25-07 12:53 PM |
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Edwards is going to open a lot of doors for other Dems when he is President... |
Blackhatjack |
Aug-25-07 06:12 PM |
#108 |
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Thanks for posting this, I was aware of most of it but the trucking company was news to me. |
greyhound1966 |
Aug-27-07 01:10 AM |
#121 |
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