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137. Nice
Sometimes it's hard to come up with a simple example to the math challenged why they are wrong, but you did well.
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  -Those historically high negatives of HRC's? They don't matter. pnwmom  Aug-20-07 09:31 AM   #0 
  - I'll vote for any Democrat, except Hillary Clinton  WidowsSon   Aug-20-07 09:49 AM   #1 
  - Even if she wins the primary?  drm604   Aug-20-07 09:59 AM   #3 
  - I'd just sit it out.  WidowsSon   Aug-20-07 10:13 AM   #10 
  - So your ok with another Republican Administration?  William769   Aug-20-07 10:34 AM   #14 
  - On the issues that matter most to me, there is little difference  WidowsSon   Aug-20-07 10:44 AM   #17 
     - We have seen plain evil, and you seem to have no problem keeping them in power.  William769   Aug-20-07 11:09 AM   #20 
     - Yours is exactly the type of attitude that brought us Bush in 2000.  pnwmom   Aug-20-07 11:21 AM   #23 
        - History says otherwise  WidowsSon   Aug-20-07 12:56 PM   #74 
           - In other words, you think it's hopeless?  shimmergal   Aug-20-07 02:10 PM   #94 
              - Nice points  WidowsSon   Aug-20-07 02:18 PM   #98 
                 - Would Hillary veto universal health care plan proposed by a Dem Congress ... NO ...  JoePhilly   Aug-20-07 04:39 PM   #144 
                    - No - what you need  WidowsSon   Aug-20-07 07:32 PM   #162 
  - I prefer Obama or Edwards, but I will absolutely  Hawaii Hiker   Aug-20-07 11:21 AM   #22 
  - We can do better than forcing the American people to choose between  hedgehog   Aug-20-07 10:59 AM   #19 
     - Perhaps. But that should be a very easy choice for anyone here.  pnwmom   Aug-20-07 11:25 AM   #24 
        - Guiliani is unelectable  WidowsSon   Aug-20-07 01:05 PM   #81 
  - So will my life-long Democrat parents.  eggman67   Aug-20-07 10:05 AM   #5 
  - Her voting record on progressive issues is above 90%.  pnwmom   Aug-20-07 10:09 AM   #8 
     - The problem is the 10%  WidowsSon   Aug-20-07 10:26 AM   #13 
        - And yet your willing to let the Repukes keep control.  William769   Aug-20-07 10:35 AM   #15 
        - If you assist the Republicans by not voting for whatever Democrat  pnwmom   Aug-20-07 11:12 AM   #21 
        - And imagine, there is not even a Nader to split the vote in 2008.  WidowsSon   Aug-20-07 01:00 PM   #78 
           - Nader is once again talking about running. Didn't you know that?  pnwmom   Aug-20-07 05:46 PM   #159 
              - According to you  WidowsSon   Aug-20-07 07:28 PM   #161 
                 - There was nothing any Democrat in the Senate could have done  pnwmom   Aug-20-07 07:38 PM   #163 
                    - Going to war without Congressional approval  WidowsSon   Aug-20-07 07:55 PM   #165 
                       - That is NOT what I said. He would have had Congressional approval by Jan.  pnwmom   Aug-20-07 08:24 PM   #166 
                          - No  WidowsSon   Aug-20-07 08:48 PM   #167 
                             - The IWR that was passed does not allow him to go into Syria or Iran.  pnwmom   Aug-20-07 10:56 PM   #168 
                                - No, the resolution  WidowsSon   Aug-21-07 10:59 AM   #173 
        - So when we have another RePug adminstration...  Aya Reiko   Aug-20-07 03:30 PM   #108 
  - So you're one of the Hillary haters that Rove/Limbaugh/Coulter  pnwmom   Aug-20-07 10:07 AM   #7 
  - I loved HRC until 2003  WidowsSon   Aug-20-07 10:18 AM   #11 
  - The RNC  BigDDem   Aug-20-07 12:07 PM   #40 
  - What type of cookies?  WidowsSon   Aug-20-07 12:57 PM   #75 
  - Well then vote repug  emilyg   Aug-20-07 01:14 PM   #85 
     - I'd rather sit it out  WidowsSon   Aug-20-07 01:18 PM   #86 
        - My soul will be fine when I vote for Hillary.  emilyg   Aug-20-07 01:42 PM   #88 
        - Didn't answer the question  WidowsSon   Aug-20-07 01:45 PM   #89 
           - Both.  emilyg   Aug-20-07 01:53 PM   #90 
              - Let me put it another way  WidowsSon   Aug-20-07 02:01 PM   #92 
        - So who is your candidate? Who should we vote for to save our souls?  rinsd   Aug-20-07 01:55 PM   #91 
        - Someone who doesn't react like a coward  WidowsSon   Aug-20-07 02:08 PM   #93 
           - So who would that be?  rinsd   Aug-20-07 02:10 PM   #95 
              - I think Obama comes closest.  WidowsSon   Aug-20-07 02:12 PM   #96 
                 - Given what you have stated, I would have pegged you for a Kucinich fan  rinsd   Aug-20-07 02:28 PM   #100 
                    - Obama would have never voted for the War  WidowsSon   Aug-20-07 02:32 PM   #101 
        - Voting ISN'T an exercise in moral purity!!!.  shimmergal   Aug-20-07 02:17 PM   #97 
           - Where do you draw the line?  WidowsSon   Aug-20-07 02:23 PM   #99 
  - "But that's unlikely, because the vast majority of people who can be made to hate her, already do."  Dawgs   Aug-20-07 09:58 AM   #2 
  - The Republican attack machine has been working against her for 12 years.  pnwmom   Aug-20-07 10:04 AM   #4 
  - Wrong  Inuca   Aug-20-07 12:58 PM   #76 
  - I think there are ways she can make more people strongly dislike her  karynnj   Aug-20-07 11:42 AM   #30 
  - She has been very commanding and warm during the debates. I would  applegrove   Aug-20-07 10:06 AM   #6 
  - I agree. She has not been my first choice, but the more I see of her,  pnwmom   Aug-20-07 10:12 AM   #9 
  - How many of her supporters know she hasn't announced a healthcare plan? n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 10:20 AM   #12 
  - She's smart not to at this point.  pnwmom   Aug-20-07 11:26 AM   #25 
     - Yes, because she can sucker people in without a plan. How sad. n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 11:29 AM   #27 
        - Is she telling people she has a plan? If not, what's your point?  rinsd   Aug-20-07 11:32 AM   #28 
           - That people support her when she has no healthcare plan and people claim healthcare is important.n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 11:51 AM   #32 
           - So? I could see it if we were a month or a couple of weeks away from voting in IA.  rinsd   Aug-20-07 11:55 AM   #35 
              - Oh, please ! Yes, avoid talking about the REAL issues, like healthcare n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 12:03 PM   #37 
                 - So when are you going to dicsuss a real issue like healthcare?  rinsd   Aug-20-07 12:42 PM   #69 
                    - Nice diversion, again. Please answer my question.  antigop   Aug-20-07 12:43 PM   #70 
           - And that's sad -- she doesn't have to address the healthcare issue and she still gets supporters  antigop   Aug-20-07 11:54 AM   #34 
              - Except she has addressed healthcare.  rinsd   Aug-20-07 11:57 AM   #36 
                 - Yes, SHE DOESN"T HAVE A PLAN!!!! n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 12:04 PM   #38 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-20-07 12:06 PM   #39 
                    - I'm not committed to HRC, but I'm certain she will address healthcare  pnwmom   Aug-20-07 12:13 PM   #42 
                    - But that's the whole point! What will her plan really look like...  antigop   Aug-20-07 12:15 PM   #44 
                       - LOL. No sad is pretending to care whether Hillary has a plan  rinsd   Aug-20-07 12:26 PM   #56 
                          - Nice diversion again. How sad. n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 12:27 PM   #57 
                             - But I thought you wanted to discuss healthcare plans? Or was that BS too?  rinsd   Aug-20-07 12:28 PM   #59 
                                - No, I have asked the question over and over and you keep trying to divert  antigop   Aug-20-07 12:30 PM   #61 
                                - Hillary doesn't have a healthcare plan so there is nothing to discuss about it  antigop   Aug-20-07 12:32 PM   #63 
                                   - The others don't have healthcare plans? I thought this was an important issue to you?  rinsd   Aug-20-07 12:38 PM   #67 
                                      - Nice diversion again. Please answer the question.  antigop   Aug-20-07 12:39 PM   #68 
                                         - Perhaps because I answered it post #48  rinsd   Aug-20-07 12:48 PM   #71 
                                            - And you just admitted the problem... specifics at this stage of the game are not necessary  antigop   Aug-20-07 01:01 PM   #79 
                                               - That is your gotcha? When you can't name a single detail from the other guys' plans?  rinsd   Aug-20-07 01:05 PM   #82 
                                               - Nice try at diversion again. You fell right into it. Thanks for playing! n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 01:06 PM   #84 
                                               - The only diversion I see, is from you. NT  William769   Aug-20-07 01:26 PM   #87 
                                               - Oh, these threads have become truly sad. I point out that Hillary doesn't have a healthplan  antigop   Aug-20-07 03:21 PM   #103 
                                               - Now you're whining and playing victim?  rinsd   Aug-20-07 03:26 PM   #106 
                                               - Nope, just pointing out the FACT that Hillary doesn't have specific healthcare plan  antigop   Aug-20-07 03:28 PM   #107 
                                               - Now you're patting yourself on the back?  rinsd   Aug-20-07 03:37 PM   #111 
                                               - Thank you. I just proved my point. People don't like my pointing out facts. n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 03:38 PM   #113 
                                               - What fact? That Hillary's doesn't have a specific healthcare plan? No one disagreed with that.  rinsd   Aug-20-07 03:43 PM   #115 
                                               - Thank you for admitting that Hillary does not have a specific healthcare plan.  antigop   Aug-20-07 03:46 PM   #117 
                                               - Yeah it only took you 20 or so posts to realize I did so upthread.  rinsd   Aug-20-07 03:49 PM   #121 
                                               - Sorry if I posted facts and if you didn't like that n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 03:51 PM   #124 
                    - So now you speak for Hillary supporters?  rinsd   Aug-20-07 12:18 PM   #48 
                       - OMG!. How sad. Supporting someone who has no plan. n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 12:19 PM   #50 
                          - Sad?  rinsd   Aug-20-07 12:21 PM   #52 
                             - OMG! How truly sad -- no interest in discussing the real issue of healthcare and plans to fix it.  antigop   Aug-20-07 12:25 PM   #54 
                                - How can I discuss it with you? You obviously are uninformed on the issue.  rinsd   Aug-20-07 12:27 PM   #58 
                                   - Nope. You are still missing the point. WHERE IS HILLARY'S PLAN  antigop   Aug-20-07 12:29 PM   #60 
                                      - If a healthcare plan is so important why can't you discuss the ones already offered?  rinsd   Aug-20-07 12:33 PM   #64 
                                         - Nice try at diversion again. I'll ask the question again.  antigop   Aug-20-07 12:35 PM   #65 
                                            - At least you have new spam to write.  rinsd   Aug-20-07 12:49 PM   #72 
                                               - And your reluctance to answer the question has been duly noted. Thanks for playing. n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 01:01 PM   #80 
                                                  - I answered the question. You can't name a single detail from the others plans  rinsd   Aug-20-07 01:06 PM   #83 
                                                  - No, you didn't answer the question -- you've diverted the issue  antigop   Aug-20-07 03:23 PM   #104 
                                                  - Yes I did answer the question. You simply ignored it a dozen times.  rinsd   Aug-20-07 03:32 PM   #109 
                                                  - Nice diversion yet again. Hillary isn't discussing healthcare, has no plan, and has supporters n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 03:36 PM   #110 
                                                  - Hillary isn't discussing healthcare? Well now you are posting a lie.  rinsd   Aug-20-07 03:42 PM   #114 
                                                  - She isn't discussing her healthcare PLAN because she doesn't have one n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 03:47 PM   #119 
                                                  - Your quote: "Hillary isn't discussing healthcare". So is this an admission you were very wrong?  rinsd   Aug-20-07 03:51 PM   #125 
                                                  - No, she isn't discussing the healthcare issue by talking about a specific plan.  antigop   Aug-20-07 03:52 PM   #127 
                                                  - But you didn't say that. You went for hyperbole, got proven wrong and now can't admit FACTS.  rinsd   Aug-20-07 03:58 PM   #130 
                                                  - No, you are the one who has not comprehended what I have been saying on all of these responses. n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 04:00 PM   #131 
                                                  - So you admit you were wrong by claiming Hillary has not discussed healthcare?  rinsd   Aug-20-07 04:02 PM   #133 
                                                  - No., I am not wrong. She has not discussed healthcare BY LAYING OUT A SPECIFIC PLAN.  antigop   Aug-20-07 04:06 PM   #136 
                                                  - You said she isn't discussing healthcare, I proved she has been, therefore you are wrong.  rinsd   Aug-20-07 04:12 PM   #139 
                                                  - No, I'm sorry if you still don't get it.  antigop   Aug-20-07 05:20 PM   #145 
                                                  - But you did not say that. You said she is not discussing healthcare, that was wrong.  rinsd   Aug-20-07 05:24 PM   #147 
                                                  - Nope, you still don't get it. GO READ MY POST! N/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 05:26 PM   #150 
                                                  - Oh ok. NOW I get it  rinsd   Aug-20-07 05:38 PM   #157 
                                                  - Getting desperate are we? She isn't discussing healthcare BY LAYING OUT A PLAN. n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 05:22 PM   #146 
                                                  - Whose desperate? You made a mistake and instead of admitting it on moving on, you deny it happened  rinsd   Aug-20-07 05:26 PM   #149 
                                                  - No, I did not make a mistake. You are truly desperate. n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 05:27 PM   #151 
                                                  - Psst.. this thread is about Hillary's negatives -- her negative is that she has no health plan n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 03:37 PM   #112 
                                                  - So what evidence shows Hillary's negatives are related to her not having a specifc plan?  rinsd   Aug-20-07 03:46 PM   #116 
                                                  - You are trying to divert which is what I have said on many responses n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 03:48 PM   #120 
                                                  - You pull statements out of your butt and get called on them Then you runaway.  rinsd   Aug-20-07 03:50 PM   #123 
                                                  - What assertion? That she has no plan? That's a fact. n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 03:53 PM   #128 
                                                  - You just made an assertion that her negatives are related to her lack of a specific helathcare plan  rinsd   Aug-20-07 04:01 PM   #132 
                                                  - No, I asked why Hillary has supporters if she doesn't have a healthcare plan.  antigop   Aug-20-07 04:02 PM   #134 
                                                  - I really should stop playing your game but yet again I answered your question in post #48  rinsd   Aug-20-07 04:15 PM   #142 
                                                  - So where is her plan? And if she has "experience" where is her plan  antigop   Aug-20-07 05:25 PM   #148 
                                                  - Finally a subject change. Guess you realized how silly you looked.  rinsd   Aug-20-07 05:29 PM   #153 
                                                  - Oh, nice try. No specific plan for universal healthcare -- which is one of her negatives. n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 05:32 PM   #154 
                                                  - Here ya go  rinsd   Aug-20-07 05:34 PM   #155 
                                                  - Just as I specific plan for universal healthcare n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 11:36 PM   #169 
                    - What's the rush? n/t  pnwmom   Aug-20-07 12:14 PM   #43 
                       - Because healthcare is a very pressing problem and the issue needs to be discussed  antigop   Aug-20-07 12:17 PM   #45 
                          - Please detail Obama's and Edwards' healthcare plans.  rinsd   Aug-20-07 12:19 PM   #49 
                          - Nice diversion. But I'm sure you can look them up yourself. n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 12:21 PM   #51 
                             - IOW yet another case of fake outrage.  rinsd   Aug-20-07 12:25 PM   #53 
                                - HA! You missed the point. n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 12:26 PM   #55 
                          - We have months before the first primary, and there's nothing  pnwmom   Aug-20-07 05:42 PM   #158 
                             - I'm not asking her to solve it before the election. I'm asking about her health plan. WHERE IS IT?  antigop   Aug-20-07 11:40 PM   #170 
  - We hope.  Forkboy   Aug-20-07 10:38 AM   #16 
  - Her negatives are +70% with Republicans, +20% with Independents and +25 with Dems   Aug-20-07 10:50 AM   #18 
  - All she -- or any Democrat -- needs to do  pnwmom   Aug-20-07 11:29 AM   #26 
     - That's not what this country needs though  knight_of_the_star   Aug-20-07 11:36 AM   #29 
     - I could not agree more n/t  Inuca   Aug-20-07 12:59 PM   #77 
     - She may not win all the Kerry states  karynnj   Aug-20-07 11:48 AM   #31 
     - Democrats have won PA since 1992  Hawaii Hiker   Aug-20-07 11:54 AM   #33 
        - Before the 2004 election, I had read in one of the swing states  karynnj   Aug-20-07 12:38 PM   #66 
     - i don't see new mexico going for a woman. period.  bpeale   Aug-20-07 12:10 PM   #41 
        - And many people thought this country wasn't ready for a Catholic president  pnwmom   Aug-20-07 12:17 PM   #46 
           - sorry, we're still in the cowboys & indians stage. i just don't see  bpeale   Aug-20-07 12:32 PM   #62 
  - Yes they do.  slick8790   Aug-20-07 12:18 PM   #47 
  - her negatives are only going down  Enrique   Aug-20-07 12:52 PM   #73 
  - And will continue to go down.  emilyg   Aug-20-07 03:01 PM   #102 
  - Um, if a negative number "goes down" it becomes even more negative n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 03:26 PM   #105 
     - Not when they are described as "high" negatives and the number itsself is not a negative one.  rinsd   Aug-20-07 03:47 PM   #118 
     - A negative is just that -- a negative. Thanks for playing though. n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 03:49 PM   #122 
        - If one's negatives go from 50 to 30 is that up or down? Higher or lower?  rinsd   Aug-20-07 04:03 PM   #135 
           - Nice  Nederland   Aug-20-07 04:07 PM   #137 
           - Being math challenged has nothing to do with it.  rinsd   Aug-20-07 04:11 PM   #138 
           - And if her "negative" of not having a healthcare plan "goes down"...  antigop   Aug-20-07 05:29 PM   #152 
              - Forget simple math that post defies logic  rinsd   Aug-20-07 05:37 PM   #156 
                 - Nope but nice try.  antigop   Aug-20-07 11:45 PM   #171 
     - I'm assuming this is a joke  Enrique   Aug-20-07 04:13 PM   #140 
  - She's got my vote...  ileus   Aug-20-07 03:52 PM   #126 
  - So healthcare isn't important to you? And her lack of a plan doesn't matter? n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 03:55 PM   #129 
  - Glad that rationalization is working for you...  elizm   Aug-20-07 04:14 PM   #141 
  - Would Hillary veto universal health care plan proposed by a Dem Congress ... NO ...  JoePhilly   Aug-20-07 04:37 PM   #143 
     - HILLARY WON'T GET A CHANCE TO VETO...SHE WILL LOSE!! N/T  elizm   Aug-20-07 06:09 PM   #160 
  - Just shows that people don't like her  illinoisprogressive   Aug-20-07 07:44 PM   #164 
  - Thanks for the laughs, all. These Hillary threads have become truly hilarious. n/t  antigop   Aug-20-07 11:46 PM   #172 

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