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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-11-07 11:44 AM
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90. That's the problem...
Edited on Sat Aug-11-07 11:45 AM by jenmito
and why I say nobody will unite the Repub. party to come out and vote against Hillary Clinton. I can see the "ABC" signs now-Anyone But Clinton."
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  -One of Hillary's flip-flops finally hits the MSM... jenmito  Aug-10-07 06:30 PM   #0 
  - They're actually discussing her use of the word "girl."  graywarrior   Aug-10-07 06:31 PM   #1 
  - I know. Tweety seems to have a nightly segment only about Hillary...  jenmito   Aug-10-07 06:33 PM   #3 
  - tweety is only slightly less hostile to the clintons  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 06:51 PM   #14 
     - No wonder he praises her, names her as the "clear winner" and acts like she's the nominee...  jenmito   Aug-10-07 06:54 PM   #16 
        - good heavens  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 06:58 PM   #19 
           - Well, you said...  jenmito   Aug-10-07 07:06 PM   #23 
              - I concede this one to you. I quite honestly don't know what tweety may or may not desire  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 07:24 PM   #28 
                 - Thank you.  jenmito   Aug-10-07 07:29 PM   #29 
                    - no problem.  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 07:33 PM   #32 
                       - As are Obama supporters...  jenmito   Aug-10-07 07:39 PM   #35 
                          - outstanding.  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 07:44 PM   #37 
                             - Deal.  jenmito   Aug-10-07 07:50 PM   #42 
                                - I think  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 07:54 PM   #45 
                                   - Thanks...  jenmito   Aug-10-07 07:57 PM   #48 
  - personally, I thought that was an excellent touch.  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 06:33 PM   #4 
  - i think the difference . . .  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 06:31 PM   #2 
  - But she had to know she was going to be one...  jenmito   Aug-10-07 06:34 PM   #5 
  - "going to be" is different from "currently is".  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 06:38 PM   #7 
     - She was a Senator. And we all knew she'd be a candidate.  jenmito   Aug-10-07 06:39 PM   #8 
     - I think you fail to understand the difference  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 06:43 PM   #11 
        - Yes, I DO fail to understand the difference. A Senator is part of the government  jenmito   Aug-10-07 06:51 PM   #13 
           - a senator is 1/100th of 1/2 of 1/3rd of the national government  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 06:54 PM   #17 
              - Doesn't matter. Either her words matter before she became a candidate  jenmito   Aug-10-07 07:01 PM   #20 
                 - oh, for heaven's sake. it absolutely matters.  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 07:21 PM   #27 
                    - She said it knowing she'd be a presidential candidate...  jenmito   Aug-10-07 07:36 PM   #34 
                       - once agagain, what you may be is very different from what you currently are  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 07:47 PM   #39 
                          - So when she said she'd meet with our enemies, that counted?  jenmito   Aug-10-07 07:53 PM   #44 
                          - which enemies?  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 07:56 PM   #47 
                             - Iran, Syria, Cuba's leaders, etc. n/t  jenmito   Aug-10-07 07:58 PM   #51 
                          - I'd like an explantation of just when Hillary's words can be taken seriously!  earthlover   Aug-11-07 09:15 AM   #83 
                             - Bump for a response...  jenmito   Aug-11-07 11:32 AM   #87 
                             - nearly missed this subthread  hijinx87   Aug-12-07 02:01 PM   #131 
                             - I think you will find  hijinx87   Aug-12-07 02:00 PM   #130 
                                - "years and years" Oh My God!  earthlover   Aug-12-07 09:56 PM   #165 
     - So all her 'experience' prior to her becoming a candidate doesn't matter either?  Debi   Aug-10-07 06:41 PM   #9 
        - why are there so many people here that insist  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 06:49 PM   #12 
        - Yup, and she'll energize the Repub. base like NO other candidate.  jenmito   Aug-10-07 06:53 PM   #15 
        - the rethuglican base will be energized no matter what  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 06:56 PM   #18 
        - It's true that SHE will energize the Repub. base more than any others...  jenmito   Aug-10-07 07:09 PM   #24 
           - first of all, I tend to dismiss anecdotal evidence  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 07:30 PM   #30 
              - That's ok...  jenmito   Aug-10-07 07:42 PM   #36 
                 - this is another difference of opinion we have  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 07:51 PM   #43 
                    - It sure is...  jenmito   Aug-10-07 07:56 PM   #46 
                       - he was pretty good in the IL debate  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 08:00 PM   #52 
                          - Thanks...  jenmito   Aug-10-07 08:02 PM   #55 
                             - he is impressive in his responses to the attacks on him lately  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 08:09 PM   #58 
                                - I think he'll do very well against them...  jenmito   Aug-10-07 08:49 PM   #63 
                                   - very much so.  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 09:29 PM   #72 
                                      - I gotta disagree...  jenmito   Aug-10-07 10:11 PM   #73 
                                         - I have to admit  hijinx87   Aug-11-07 12:01 AM   #76 
                                         - Yup...  jenmito   Aug-11-07 11:30 AM   #86 
        - so we should nominate someone the right-wing likes?  MonkeyFunk   Aug-10-07 07:30 PM   #31 
           - that was sort of my question, too n/t  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 07:33 PM   #33 
           - No. We should nominate someone who has good judgement and is, at the same time,  jenmito   Aug-10-07 07:47 PM   #40 
              - The right-wing will attack  MonkeyFunk   Aug-10-07 07:58 PM   #49 
              - Of course they will...  jenmito   Aug-10-07 08:00 PM   #53 
                 - the "dirt" they have on Hillary  MonkeyFunk   Aug-10-07 08:08 PM   #57 
                 - Who says it's all been put out there?  jenmito   Aug-10-07 08:54 PM   #64 
                 - The"dirt" has been out there....so that when it is drudged out AGAIN it will be familiar,believable  earthlover   Aug-11-07 09:37 AM   #84 
                 - what? vince foster?  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 08:12 PM   #59 
                 - vince foster for a start.....but try Ms Flip Flop on for size....  earthlover   Aug-12-07 09:59 PM   #166 
                 - I heard Rash Limbaugh  creeksneakers2   Aug-10-07 08:15 PM   #60 
                    - If it's false, he'll fight it.  jenmito   Aug-10-07 08:55 PM   #65 
                       - What planet are you from?  MonkeyFunk   Aug-10-07 08:57 PM   #68 
                          - I'm from earth...  jenmito   Aug-10-07 09:23 PM   #70 
                          - go easy, bro  hijinx87   Aug-11-07 12:03 AM   #77 
                          - Why THANKS, hijinx!  jenmito   Aug-11-07 11:36 AM   #88 
                          - I'm watching the Iowa Repub. straw poll speeches...  jenmito   Aug-11-07 03:15 PM   #95 
              - yeah, he was against the war, but  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 08:06 PM   #56 
                 - I disagree...  jenmito   Aug-10-07 08:48 PM   #62 
                    - you have hit upon it exactly. you do that a lot, by the way.  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 08:55 PM   #66 
                    - Thanks (again)...  jenmito   Aug-10-07 09:22 PM   #69 
                       - name three prominent democrats  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 11:44 PM   #75 
                          - I can't. But Russ Feingold was thinking about it...  jenmito   Aug-11-07 11:39 AM   #89 
                          - Wellstone voted no, and he was in a tight race for re-election  earthlover   Aug-11-07 09:46 PM   #105 
                             - Ah...thanks for the info.  jenmito   Aug-11-07 09:52 PM   #108 
                          - So all of these Democrats are just smarter than Hill?  bvar22   Aug-11-07 10:12 PM   #113 
                             - But he asked..."...and are candidates for the nomination..."  jenmito   Aug-11-07 10:22 PM   #114 
                                - Yes. He limited the choices.  bvar22   Aug-11-07 10:27 PM   #116 
                                   - I do, too...  jenmito   Aug-11-07 10:29 PM   #117 
                                   - "limited" is a misleading verb. I simply choose to be consistent.  hijinx87   Aug-12-07 01:55 PM   #129 
                    - Right....also, Obama had constituents too....  earthlover   Aug-11-07 09:44 PM   #104 
                       - That's right...  jenmito   Aug-11-07 09:54 PM   #109 
                       - obama had ZERO national security responsibility  hijinx87   Aug-12-07 01:47 PM   #128 
                          - He still spoke out against it and NAILED it re: what the result of our invasion would be  jenmito   Aug-12-07 03:46 PM   #133 
                          - I dismiss it as irrelevant.  hijinx87   Aug-12-07 04:27 PM   #136 
                             - I really don't understand how you can dismiss it...  jenmito   Aug-12-07 06:31 PM   #139 
                                - he spoke out against it when no one nationally cared what he thought.  hijinx87   Aug-12-07 06:51 PM   #143 
                                   - But it was still what he believed and said...  jenmito   Aug-12-07 07:53 PM   #147 
                                      - honestly, jenmito  hijinx87   Aug-12-07 08:09 PM   #149 
                                         - If he ran for national office a year later, definitely...  jenmito   Aug-12-07 08:17 PM   #153 
                                         - no, it just doesn't matter  hijinx87   Aug-12-07 08:19 PM   #155 
                                         - It matters to me...  jenmito   Aug-12-07 08:36 PM   #160 
                                         - specious (yet effective) argument  hijinx87   Aug-12-07 08:56 PM   #162 
                                         - I accept the effective part...  jenmito   Aug-12-07 09:44 PM   #164 
                                         - I am a moderate. you got me!!  hijinx87   Aug-12-07 11:35 PM   #171 
                          - The Point is he got it right the first time. I do not want someone in office who can not make the  Ethelk2044   Aug-12-07 04:00 PM   #135 
                             - just for the sake of argument, is a single wrong decision automatically disqualifying?  hijinx87   Aug-12-07 04:28 PM   #137 
        - i agree, sometimes I wonder if I am on ahe DU board or a RW board when  rodeodance   Aug-10-07 08:01 PM   #54 
           - You said it.  seasonedblue   Aug-12-07 11:15 AM   #127 
              - defending hillary is actually  hijinx87   Aug-12-07 02:18 PM   #132 
                 - That's very true,  seasonedblue   Aug-12-07 06:45 PM   #141 
                    - her ADA LQ is 100%, last I checked.  hijinx87   Aug-12-07 06:53 PM   #144 
        - No. HRC can't put "I was married to the boss" on her resum.  ShortnFiery   Aug-11-07 12:08 AM   #78 
  - She's been a candidate since 2000  sandnsea   Aug-10-07 06:35 PM   #6 
  - and john edwards has been "running" since kerry conceded  hijinx87   Aug-10-07 06:42 PM   #10 
  - So she has different values as a Senator than as a President?  Terri S   Aug-11-07 07:25 PM   #101 
  - There's no double standard  creeksneakers2   Aug-10-07 07:01 PM   #21 
  - If, as you just said,  jenmito   Aug-10-07 07:12 PM   #25 
     - Obama said he'd never use the weapons. n/t  creeksneakers2   Aug-10-07 08:16 PM   #61 
        - Is using nukes a good thing? Just askin'  earthlover   Aug-11-07 03:50 PM   #96 
           - Could you imagine if OBAMA would've said nuking Pakistan is on the table?  jenmito   Aug-11-07 03:54 PM   #97 
           - The threat of using nukes can help  creeksneakers2   Aug-11-07 04:07 PM   #98 
              - In the mountains of Pakistan?  Terri S   Aug-11-07 07:29 PM   #102 
              - To be precise, Obama said "the mountains BETWEEN Afghanistan and Pakistan"  Bongo Prophet   Aug-12-07 02:34 AM   #123 
                 - You should ask the Pakistani "spokesman" (from the govt.) who was on Late Edition this morning  jenmito   Aug-12-07 03:57 PM   #134 
                    - There is no sense of humor anymore on DU, even on weekends? Maybe it was taken seriously? Sorry.  Bongo Prophet   Aug-12-07 07:35 PM   #146 
                       - I have a great sense of humor, but...  jenmito   Aug-12-07 08:04 PM   #148 
                          - Thanks for being cool about it, jenmito  Bongo Prophet   Aug-12-07 10:11 PM   #167 
                             - No problem, Bongo!  jenmito   Aug-12-07 10:35 PM   #168 
              - Hillary didn't think the threat of nukes could help in Iran...  jenmito   Aug-11-07 08:46 PM   #103 
                 - Fact of the matter is, Hillary said they would not be on the table...that was before she said....  earthlover   Aug-11-07 09:50 PM   #107 
                    - Exactly....  jenmito   Aug-11-07 09:57 PM   #110 
  - as pointed out here-----CONTEXT is very important.  rodeodance   Aug-10-07 07:03 PM   #22 
  - If SHE was president, she would take nukes off the table re: striking Iran...  jenmito   Aug-10-07 07:19 PM   #26 
     - In listening to the actual debate----she clearly was talking about a 'hypo=  rodeodance   Aug-10-07 07:44 PM   #38 
        - So was Obama. Unless I missed something...  jenmito   Aug-10-07 07:49 PM   #41 
           - I was referring to previous and past statement made by Clinton (not Obama)  rodeodance   Aug-10-07 07:58 PM   #50 
           - They're ALL hypotheticals.  jenmito   Aug-10-07 08:56 PM   #67 
           - She doesn't DO hypotheticals when she doesn't want to answer a question....  earthlover   Aug-12-07 06:33 AM   #124 
              - Exactly...  jenmito   Aug-12-07 11:08 AM   #126 
  - matthews shocked me by acutally saying something true rather than gush about Hillary  illinoisprogressive   Aug-10-07 09:28 PM   #71 
  - Me, too! That's what inspired me to start this thread!  jenmito   Aug-10-07 10:13 PM   #74 
     - To Rupert Murdoch, the Political Ruling Elite and their Journalistic Errand Boys/Girls  ShortnFiery   Aug-11-07 12:15 AM   #79 
        - That's the problem...  jenmito   Aug-11-07 11:44 AM   #90 
  - I was amazed it hit the MSM also!  superkia   Aug-11-07 12:15 AM   #80 
  - Especially Tweety saying it! n/t  jenmito   Aug-11-07 11:46 AM   #91 
  - I have decided that Matthews has something wrong with him  pirhana   Aug-11-07 12:27 AM   #81 
  - Well, he DOES have diabetes...  jenmito   Aug-11-07 11:55 AM   #92 
  - He is right. She is a flip flopper and she everyone knows it.  Ethelk2044   Aug-11-07 04:16 PM   #99 
     - At least MORE people know it now that a couple weeks ago...  jenmito   Aug-11-07 06:26 PM   #100 
  - She's not ready for prime time.  killbotfactory   Aug-11-07 01:46 AM   #82 
  - it certainly was naive....and unaccetable to attack another candidate for the same thing she said  earthlover   Aug-11-07 09:40 AM   #85 
  - Yup.  jenmito   Aug-11-07 11:58 AM   #94 
  - I love your  jenmito   Aug-11-07 11:57 AM   #93 
  - without reading the OP or thread -- I don't like the word "flip-flop"  AtomicKitten   Aug-11-07 09:47 PM   #106 
  - To each his/her own...  jenmito   Aug-11-07 09:58 PM   #111 
  - sorry  AtomicKitten   Aug-11-07 10:10 PM   #112 
     - I understand...  jenmito   Aug-11-07 10:27 PM   #115 
        - that must be it -- too fresh from 2004  AtomicKitten   Aug-11-07 10:30 PM   #118 
           - What do you mean by "SS Clinton"?  jenmito   Aug-11-07 10:43 PM   #119 
              - don't let anybody kid you, she's kicking butt  AtomicKitten   Aug-11-07 10:44 PM   #120 
                 - Nationally it seems that way...  jenmito   Aug-11-07 10:47 PM   #121 
                    - national polls are largely shaped by the early primary/caucus states  hijinx87   Aug-12-07 04:32 PM   #138 
                       - They are?  jenmito   Aug-12-07 06:44 PM   #140 
                          - The nomination was a done deal for Kerry after Iowa and New Hampshire.  Alexander   Aug-12-07 06:46 PM   #142 
                          - I know...  jenmito   Aug-12-07 08:11 PM   #150 
                          - the poll numers don't matter until the early states start to come in  hijinx87   Aug-12-07 07:13 PM   #145 
                             - I know that.  jenmito   Aug-12-07 08:13 PM   #151 
                                - I'm not sure that I said that, either.  hijinx87   Aug-12-07 08:16 PM   #152 
                                   - You didn't...  jenmito   Aug-12-07 08:18 PM   #154 
                                      - I am careful about what fact I bring into evidence  hijinx87   Aug-12-07 08:22 PM   #156 
                                         - OK...  jenmito   Aug-12-07 08:30 PM   #158 
                                            - she is good people.  hijinx87   Aug-12-07 08:34 PM   #159 
                                               - That's ok...  jenmito   Aug-12-07 08:48 PM   #161 
  - Gives me a rash.  AZBlue   Aug-12-07 10:52 PM   #170 
  - this suprises people?  HuffleClaw   Aug-12-07 01:42 AM   #122 
  - I agree. It just shows how she can not take one side of an issue.  Ethelk2044   Aug-12-07 08:30 AM   #125 
  - So now we're borrowing tactics from the GOP?  AZBlue   Aug-12-07 08:24 PM   #157 
     - No...Kerry did NOT flip-flop...  jenmito   Aug-12-07 09:18 PM   #163 
        - I know...so why are you using their derogatory term??  AZBlue   Aug-12-07 10:52 PM   #169 
           - I believe Hillary changed her position as a calculated move to look strong compared to Obama.  jenmito   Aug-13-07 11:11 AM   #172 
 

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