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Fri Aug-10-07 06:33 PM
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| 3. I know. Tweety seems to have a nightly segment only about Hillary... |
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whatever the subject, he's treating her as the Dem. nominee.
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| -One of Hillary's flip-flops finally hits the MSM... |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 06:30 PM |
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They're actually discussing her use of the word "girl." |
graywarrior |
Aug-10-07 06:31 PM |
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I know. Tweety seems to have a nightly segment only about Hillary... |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 06:33 PM |
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tweety is only slightly less hostile to the clintons |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 06:51 PM |
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No wonder he praises her, names her as the "clear winner" and acts like she's the nominee... |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 06:54 PM |
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good heavens |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 06:58 PM |
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Well, you said... |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 07:06 PM |
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I concede this one to you. I quite honestly don't know what tweety may or may not desire |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 07:24 PM |
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Thank you. |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 07:29 PM |
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no problem. |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 07:33 PM |
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As are Obama supporters... |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 07:39 PM |
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outstanding. |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 07:44 PM |
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Deal. |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 07:50 PM |
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I think |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 07:54 PM |
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Thanks... |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 07:57 PM |
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personally, I thought that was an excellent touch. |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 06:33 PM |
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i think the difference . . . |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 06:31 PM |
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But she had to know she was going to be one... |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 06:34 PM |
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"going to be" is different from "currently is". |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 06:38 PM |
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She was a Senator. And we all knew she'd be a candidate. |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 06:39 PM |
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I think you fail to understand the difference |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 06:43 PM |
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Yes, I DO fail to understand the difference. A Senator is part of the government |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 06:51 PM |
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a senator is 1/100th of 1/2 of 1/3rd of the national government |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 06:54 PM |
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Doesn't matter. Either her words matter before she became a candidate |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 07:01 PM |
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oh, for heaven's sake. it absolutely matters. |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 07:21 PM |
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She said it knowing she'd be a presidential candidate... |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 07:36 PM |
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once agagain, what you may be is very different from what you currently are |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 07:47 PM |
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So when she said she'd meet with our enemies, that counted? |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 07:53 PM |
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which enemies? |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 07:56 PM |
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Iran, Syria, Cuba's leaders, etc. n/t |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 07:58 PM |
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I'd like an explantation of just when Hillary's words can be taken seriously! |
earthlover |
Aug-11-07 09:15 AM |
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Bump for a response... |
jenmito |
Aug-11-07 11:32 AM |
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nearly missed this subthread |
hijinx87 |
Aug-12-07 02:01 PM |
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I think you will find |
hijinx87 |
Aug-12-07 02:00 PM |
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"years and years" Oh My God! |
earthlover |
Aug-12-07 09:56 PM |
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So all her 'experience' prior to her becoming a candidate doesn't matter either? |
Debi |
Aug-10-07 06:41 PM |
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why are there so many people here that insist |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 06:49 PM |
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Yup, and she'll energize the Repub. base like NO other candidate. |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 06:53 PM |
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the rethuglican base will be energized no matter what |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 06:56 PM |
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It's true that SHE will energize the Repub. base more than any others... |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 07:09 PM |
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first of all, I tend to dismiss anecdotal evidence |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 07:30 PM |
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That's ok... |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 07:42 PM |
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this is another difference of opinion we have |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 07:51 PM |
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It sure is... |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 07:56 PM |
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he was pretty good in the IL debate |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 08:00 PM |
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Thanks... |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 08:02 PM |
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he is impressive in his responses to the attacks on him lately |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 08:09 PM |
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I think he'll do very well against them... |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 08:49 PM |
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very much so. |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 09:29 PM |
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I gotta disagree... |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 10:11 PM |
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I have to admit |
hijinx87 |
Aug-11-07 12:01 AM |
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Yup... |
jenmito |
Aug-11-07 11:30 AM |
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so we should nominate someone the right-wing likes? |
MonkeyFunk |
Aug-10-07 07:30 PM |
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that was sort of my question, too n/t |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 07:33 PM |
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No. We should nominate someone who has good judgement and is, at the same time, |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 07:47 PM |
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The right-wing will attack |
MonkeyFunk |
Aug-10-07 07:58 PM |
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Of course they will... |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 08:00 PM |
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the "dirt" they have on Hillary |
MonkeyFunk |
Aug-10-07 08:08 PM |
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Who says it's all been put out there? |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 08:54 PM |
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The"dirt" has been out there....so that when it is drudged out AGAIN it will be familiar,believable |
earthlover |
Aug-11-07 09:37 AM |
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what? vince foster? |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 08:12 PM |
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vince foster for a start.....but try Ms Flip Flop on for size.... |
earthlover |
Aug-12-07 09:59 PM |
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I heard Rash Limbaugh |
creeksneakers2 |
Aug-10-07 08:15 PM |
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If it's false, he'll fight it. |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 08:55 PM |
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What planet are you from? |
MonkeyFunk |
Aug-10-07 08:57 PM |
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I'm from earth... |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 09:23 PM |
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go easy, bro |
hijinx87 |
Aug-11-07 12:03 AM |
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Why THANKS, hijinx! |
jenmito |
Aug-11-07 11:36 AM |
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I'm watching the Iowa Repub. straw poll speeches... |
jenmito |
Aug-11-07 03:15 PM |
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yeah, he was against the war, but |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 08:06 PM |
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I disagree... |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 08:48 PM |
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you have hit upon it exactly. you do that a lot, by the way. |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 08:55 PM |
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Thanks (again)... |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 09:22 PM |
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name three prominent democrats |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 11:44 PM |
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I can't. But Russ Feingold was thinking about it... |
jenmito |
Aug-11-07 11:39 AM |
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Wellstone voted no, and he was in a tight race for re-election |
earthlover |
Aug-11-07 09:46 PM |
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Ah...thanks for the info. |
jenmito |
Aug-11-07 09:52 PM |
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So all of these Democrats are just smarter than Hill? |
bvar22 |
Aug-11-07 10:12 PM |
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But he asked..."...and are candidates for the nomination..." |
jenmito |
Aug-11-07 10:22 PM |
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Yes. He limited the choices. |
bvar22 |
Aug-11-07 10:27 PM |
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I do, too... |
jenmito |
Aug-11-07 10:29 PM |
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"limited" is a misleading verb. I simply choose to be consistent. |
hijinx87 |
Aug-12-07 01:55 PM |
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Right....also, Obama had constituents too.... |
earthlover |
Aug-11-07 09:44 PM |
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That's right... |
jenmito |
Aug-11-07 09:54 PM |
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obama had ZERO national security responsibility |
hijinx87 |
Aug-12-07 01:47 PM |
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He still spoke out against it and NAILED it re: what the result of our invasion would be |
jenmito |
Aug-12-07 03:46 PM |
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I dismiss it as irrelevant. |
hijinx87 |
Aug-12-07 04:27 PM |
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I really don't understand how you can dismiss it... |
jenmito |
Aug-12-07 06:31 PM |
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he spoke out against it when no one nationally cared what he thought. |
hijinx87 |
Aug-12-07 06:51 PM |
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But it was still what he believed and said... |
jenmito |
Aug-12-07 07:53 PM |
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honestly, jenmito |
hijinx87 |
Aug-12-07 08:09 PM |
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If he ran for national office a year later, definitely... |
jenmito |
Aug-12-07 08:17 PM |
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no, it just doesn't matter |
hijinx87 |
Aug-12-07 08:19 PM |
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It matters to me... |
jenmito |
Aug-12-07 08:36 PM |
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specious (yet effective) argument |
hijinx87 |
Aug-12-07 08:56 PM |
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I accept the effective part... |
jenmito |
Aug-12-07 09:44 PM |
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I am a moderate. you got me!! |
hijinx87 |
Aug-12-07 11:35 PM |
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The Point is he got it right the first time. I do not want someone in office who can not make the |
Ethelk2044 |
Aug-12-07 04:00 PM |
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just for the sake of argument, is a single wrong decision automatically disqualifying? |
hijinx87 |
Aug-12-07 04:28 PM |
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i agree, sometimes I wonder if I am on ahe DU board or a RW board when |
rodeodance |
Aug-10-07 08:01 PM |
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You said it. |
seasonedblue |
Aug-12-07 11:15 AM |
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defending hillary is actually |
hijinx87 |
Aug-12-07 02:18 PM |
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That's very true, |
seasonedblue |
Aug-12-07 06:45 PM |
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her ADA LQ is 100%, last I checked. |
hijinx87 |
Aug-12-07 06:53 PM |
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No. HRC can't put "I was married to the boss" on her resumé. |
ShortnFiery |
Aug-11-07 12:08 AM |
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She's been a candidate since 2000 |
sandnsea |
Aug-10-07 06:35 PM |
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and john edwards has been "running" since kerry conceded |
hijinx87 |
Aug-10-07 06:42 PM |
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So she has different values as a Senator than as a President? |
Terri S |
Aug-11-07 07:25 PM |
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There's no double standard |
creeksneakers2 |
Aug-10-07 07:01 PM |
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If, as you just said, |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 07:12 PM |
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Obama said he'd never use the weapons. n/t |
creeksneakers2 |
Aug-10-07 08:16 PM |
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Is using nukes a good thing? Just askin' |
earthlover |
Aug-11-07 03:50 PM |
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Could you imagine if OBAMA would've said nuking Pakistan is on the table? |
jenmito |
Aug-11-07 03:54 PM |
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The threat of using nukes can help |
creeksneakers2 |
Aug-11-07 04:07 PM |
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In the mountains of Pakistan? |
Terri S |
Aug-11-07 07:29 PM |
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To be precise, Obama said "the mountains BETWEEN Afghanistan and Pakistan" |
Bongo Prophet |
Aug-12-07 02:34 AM |
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You should ask the Pakistani "spokesman" (from the govt.) who was on Late Edition this morning |
jenmito |
Aug-12-07 03:57 PM |
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There is no sense of humor anymore on DU, even on weekends? Maybe it was taken seriously? Sorry. |
Bongo Prophet |
Aug-12-07 07:35 PM |
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I have a great sense of humor, but... |
jenmito |
Aug-12-07 08:04 PM |
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Thanks for being cool about it, jenmito |
Bongo Prophet |
Aug-12-07 10:11 PM |
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No problem, Bongo! |
jenmito |
Aug-12-07 10:35 PM |
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Hillary didn't think the threat of nukes could help in Iran... |
jenmito |
Aug-11-07 08:46 PM |
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Fact of the matter is, Hillary said they would not be on the table...that was before she said.... |
earthlover |
Aug-11-07 09:50 PM |
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Exactly.... |
jenmito |
Aug-11-07 09:57 PM |
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as pointed out here-----CONTEXT is very important. |
rodeodance |
Aug-10-07 07:03 PM |
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If SHE was president, she would take nukes off the table re: striking Iran... |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 07:19 PM |
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In listening to the actual debate----she clearly was talking about a 'hypo= |
rodeodance |
Aug-10-07 07:44 PM |
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So was Obama. Unless I missed something... |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 07:49 PM |
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I was referring to previous and past statement made by Clinton (not Obama) |
rodeodance |
Aug-10-07 07:58 PM |
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They're ALL hypotheticals. |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 08:56 PM |
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She doesn't DO hypotheticals when she doesn't want to answer a question.... |
earthlover |
Aug-12-07 06:33 AM |
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Exactly... |
jenmito |
Aug-12-07 11:08 AM |
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matthews shocked me by acutally saying something true rather than gush about Hillary |
illinoisprogressive |
Aug-10-07 09:28 PM |
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Me, too! That's what inspired me to start this thread! |
jenmito |
Aug-10-07 10:13 PM |
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To Rupert Murdoch, the Political Ruling Elite and their Journalistic Errand Boys/Girls |
ShortnFiery |
Aug-11-07 12:15 AM |
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That's the problem... |
jenmito |
Aug-11-07 11:44 AM |
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I was amazed it hit the MSM also! |
superkia |
Aug-11-07 12:15 AM |
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Especially Tweety saying it! n/t |
jenmito |
Aug-11-07 11:46 AM |
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I have decided that Matthews has something wrong with him |
pirhana |
Aug-11-07 12:27 AM |
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Well, he DOES have diabetes... |
jenmito |
Aug-11-07 11:55 AM |
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He is right. She is a flip flopper and she everyone knows it. |
Ethelk2044 |
Aug-11-07 04:16 PM |
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At least MORE people know it now that a couple weeks ago... |
jenmito |
Aug-11-07 06:26 PM |
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She's not ready for prime time. |
killbotfactory |
Aug-11-07 01:46 AM |
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it certainly was naive....and unaccetable to attack another candidate for the same thing she said |
earthlover |
Aug-11-07 09:40 AM |
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Yup. |
jenmito |
Aug-11-07 11:58 AM |
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I love your |
jenmito |
Aug-11-07 11:57 AM |
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without reading the OP or thread -- I don't like the word "flip-flop" |
AtomicKitten |
Aug-11-07 09:47 PM |
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To each his/her own... |
jenmito |
Aug-11-07 09:58 PM |
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sorry |
AtomicKitten |
Aug-11-07 10:10 PM |
#112 |
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I understand... |
jenmito |
Aug-11-07 10:27 PM |
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that must be it -- too fresh from 2004 |
AtomicKitten |
Aug-11-07 10:30 PM |
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What do you mean by "SS Clinton"? |
jenmito |
Aug-11-07 10:43 PM |
#119 |
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don't let anybody kid you, she's kicking butt |
AtomicKitten |
Aug-11-07 10:44 PM |
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Nationally it seems that way... |
jenmito |
Aug-11-07 10:47 PM |
#121 |
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national polls are largely shaped by the early primary/caucus states |
hijinx87 |
Aug-12-07 04:32 PM |
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They are? |
jenmito |
Aug-12-07 06:44 PM |
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The nomination was a done deal for Kerry after Iowa and New Hampshire. |
Alexander |
Aug-12-07 06:46 PM |
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I know... |
jenmito |
Aug-12-07 08:11 PM |
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the poll numers don't matter until the early states start to come in |
hijinx87 |
Aug-12-07 07:13 PM |
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I know that. |
jenmito |
Aug-12-07 08:13 PM |
#151 |
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I'm not sure that I said that, either. |
hijinx87 |
Aug-12-07 08:16 PM |
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You didn't... |
jenmito |
Aug-12-07 08:18 PM |
#154 |
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I am careful about what fact I bring into evidence |
hijinx87 |
Aug-12-07 08:22 PM |
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OK... |
jenmito |
Aug-12-07 08:30 PM |
#158 |
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she is good people. |
hijinx87 |
Aug-12-07 08:34 PM |
#159 |
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That's ok... |
jenmito |
Aug-12-07 08:48 PM |
#161 |
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Gives me a rash. |
AZBlue |
Aug-12-07 10:52 PM |
#170 |
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this suprises people? |
HuffleClaw |
Aug-12-07 01:42 AM |
#122 |
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I agree. It just shows how she can not take one side of an issue. |
Ethelk2044 |
Aug-12-07 08:30 AM |
#125 |
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So now we're borrowing tactics from the GOP? |
AZBlue |
Aug-12-07 08:24 PM |
#157 |
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No...Kerry did NOT flip-flop... |
jenmito |
Aug-12-07 09:18 PM |
#163 |
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I know...so why are you using their derogatory term?? |
AZBlue |
Aug-12-07 10:52 PM |
#169 |
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I believe Hillary changed her position as a calculated move to look strong compared to Obama. |
jenmito |
Aug-13-07 11:11 AM |
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