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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-15-04 06:08 PM
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105. Tennesse
i went back and looked. no president has won an election without winning his home state in modern times.
If Gore had carried his home state, then the fiasco in florida would be moot.

Hells lets face it, except for McGovern in 1972, even the losing candidate still carries his home state.

while nader did take some votes away from gore, it was more of Gore's poor campaigning and his failure to win his home state that cost him the election than the green party

peace
david
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  -What really happened in 2000. Not Nader's falt. Meldread  Feb-15-04 01:17 PM   #0 
  - If Nader had not run, Gore would be president  Killarney   Feb-15-04 01:20 PM   #1 
  - You didn't even read the post. ;) -nt-  Meldread   Feb-15-04 01:21 PM   #5 
  - How true. Bush owes his Presidency to Nader  HalfManHalfBiscuit   Feb-15-04 01:28 PM   #14 
  - actually...  mark414   Feb-15-04 01:30 PM   #18 
  - The Dems let Harris et all walk all over them  mdmc   Feb-15-04 02:31 PM   #78 
  - There's not "a dime's worth of difference"  Chris   Feb-15-04 03:55 PM   #95 
  - why should I be limited  GreenInNC   Feb-15-04 05:45 PM   #102 
  - Tennesse  hippiewannabe   Feb-15-04 06:08 PM   #105 
  - "It is John Kerry's fault" and you don't back that up at all  Tweedtheatre   Feb-15-04 01:20 PM   #2 
  - I wasn't blaming it all on him....  Meldread   Feb-15-04 01:23 PM   #6 
  - Nadir lied about Al Gore and Democrats when he said 2 partys are the same  billbuckhead   Feb-15-04 01:32 PM   #23 
     - most people could care less about politics  mdmc   Feb-15-04 02:35 PM   #79 
     - NADER TOLD THE TRUTH!!!!  lams712   Feb-15-04 05:55 PM   #104 
  - Nader? Demonized? Where??  Terwilliger   Feb-15-04 01:21 PM   #3 
  - You're right, of course, but...  SaddenedDem   Feb-15-04 01:21 PM   #4 
  - I know. :P  Meldread   Feb-15-04 01:24 PM   #8 
  - How about a clarification  BeyondGeography   Feb-15-04 01:23 PM   #7 
  - True  HFishbine   Feb-15-04 01:28 PM   #13 
  - Independents are unaffiliated  BeyondGeography   Feb-15-04 01:32 PM   #21 
  - yeah...  Dookus   Feb-15-04 01:29 PM   #15 
  - Here we go again.....  EXE619K   Feb-15-04 01:25 PM   #9 
  - What hasn't George Bush done to convince you  BeyondGeography   Feb-15-04 01:27 PM   #12 
     - Did I mention GWB anywhere?  EXE619K   Feb-15-04 01:30 PM   #19 
        - Nader has been proven WRONG  BeyondGeography   Feb-15-04 01:36 PM   # 
           - Intead of trying to understand why the Greens have left the DNC platform..  EXE619K   Feb-15-04 01:47 PM   #38 
           - More generalities  BeyondGeography   Feb-15-04 01:55 PM   #53 
              - There are many reasons that the Greens differ from Dems.  EXE619K   Feb-15-04 02:23 PM   #75 
           - difference  mdmc   Feb-15-04 02:38 PM   #80 
  - He should do the right thing and endorse the DEMS in 2004...  Dr Fate   Feb-15-04 01:25 PM   #10 
  - Why should he?  Meldread   Feb-15-04 01:32 PM   #20 
     - Chief Justice Scalia  Dr Fate   Feb-15-04 01:34 PM   #25 
  - I agree it's not Naders *fault* I just dont like the guy is all.  mzmolly   Feb-15-04 01:26 PM   #11 
  - Money was funneled to Nader's campaign from GOP  Kerryfan   Feb-15-04 01:30 PM   #16 
  - Hahaha  Calico4000   Feb-15-04 08:09 PM   #106 
  - might not be his "falt" but he played a key role in the country...  jpgpenn   Feb-15-04 01:30 PM   #17 
  - 10 million Democrats  GreenInNC   Feb-15-04 05:47 PM   #103 
  - Nader: "No difference between Republicans and Democrats."  FlashHarry   Feb-15-04 01:32 PM   #22 
  - The difference between Democrats and Republicans...  JailForBush   Feb-15-04 01:38 PM   #31 
  - Again, I ask you to prove one of your statements..  wyldwolf   Feb-15-04 01:42 PM   #34 
  - OK, how many Democrats voted against the war in Afghanistan?  JailForBush   Feb-15-04 01:46 PM   #36 
     - First of all...  FlashHarry   Feb-15-04 01:50 PM   #41 
     - And I might add...  wyldwolf   Feb-15-04 01:52 PM   #45 
     - I live in King County, where the Democrats who are in bed with  JailForBush   Feb-15-04 01:57 PM   #55 
        - So?  wyldwolf   Feb-15-04 05:34 PM   #99 
     - Second of all...  JailForBush   Feb-15-04 01:55 PM   #51 
        - Afghanistan  FlashHarry   Feb-15-04 02:01 PM   #61 
           - LOL  JailForBush   Feb-15-04 02:09 PM   #65 
              - So, you believe the conspiracy theories? Enlighten me.  FlashHarry   Feb-15-04 02:15 PM   #69 
                 - What would I have done?  JailForBush   Feb-15-04 02:42 PM   #82 
                    - Why would you choose  diamondsoul   Feb-15-04 04:10 PM   #96 
     - Prove this assertion:  wyldwolf   Feb-15-04 01:50 PM   #42 
        - Look at the votes for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Look at the  JailForBush   Feb-15-04 01:58 PM   #56 
           - Your examples fall far short of "90%" --- sorry!  wyldwolf   Feb-15-04 05:35 PM   #100 
  - Totally untrue, and you know it.  FlashHarry   Feb-15-04 01:46 PM   #37 
     - I'm talking about ELECTED Democrats, the people we vote for.  JailForBush   Feb-15-04 01:50 PM   #40 
        - Perhaps you should have been more clear.  FlashHarry   Feb-15-04 01:52 PM   #44 
        - If you've been following this thread, it should have been perfectly clear.  JailForBush   Feb-15-04 01:59 PM   #58 
           - I will. If you learn to back up your blanket assertions. N/T  FlashHarry   Feb-15-04 02:03 PM   #63 
              - I did. N/T  JailForBush   Feb-15-04 02:10 PM   #66 
                 - Er, no you didn't.  FlashHarry   Feb-15-04 02:17 PM   #71 
                    - Like I said, you should have been following the thread. Someone critcized  JailForBush   Feb-15-04 02:43 PM   #83 
        - We've elected mayors, governors, etc. who are democrats...  wyldwolf   Feb-15-04 01:53 PM   #48 
           - You lost me. Who's "we"? N/T  JailForBush   Feb-15-04 02:00 PM   #59 
              - I don't know, guy, perhaps the same "we" you mentioned in post 40?  wyldwolf   Feb-15-04 05:32 PM   #98 
  - Thanks for the clear, logical argument.  Kerryfan   Feb-15-04 01:41 PM   #33 
  - Maybe Gore could have been better about the drug-war  Terwilliger   Feb-15-04 01:53 PM   #47 
  - Nader? NADER??????  aquart   Feb-15-04 01:33 PM   #24 
  - I agree, somewhat.  dawn   Feb-15-04 01:35 PM   #26 
  - How about some proof of this?  wyldwolf   Feb-15-04 01:36 PM   #27 
  - Not on hand, but...  Meldread   Feb-15-04 01:59 PM   #57 
     - well  Dookus   Feb-15-04 02:11 PM   #67 
  - Someone enlighten me here...  sadiesworld   Feb-15-04 01:36 PM   #28 
  - Yes and no.  Meldread   Feb-15-04 02:01 PM   #60 
  - Gore/Nader, Gore/Nader, blah, blah, blah  JailForBush   Feb-15-04 01:36 PM   #29 
  - Geez... you admit to "researching" a story that could hurt Gore ...  wyldwolf   Feb-15-04 01:40 PM   #32 
     - Damn Right  JailForBush   Feb-15-04 01:44 PM   #35 
        - Good. But if you really want traction, send them to Drudge...  wyldwolf   Feb-15-04 01:49 PM   #39 
           - Drudge is just another corporate whore, like Gore and Nader. N/T  JailForBush   Feb-15-04 01:51 PM   #43 
              - But you want people to see your little stories...  wyldwolf   Feb-15-04 01:54 PM   #49 
                 - I sent my findings to a number of sources, both conservative and liberal.  JailForBush   Feb-15-04 01:56 PM   #54 
  - ## Support Democratic Underground! ##  DU GrovelBot   Feb-15-04 01:36 PM   #30 
  - nader cost gore florida and new hampshire  bluestateguy   Feb-15-04 01:52 PM   #46 
  - Well-put. N/T  FlashHarry   Feb-15-04 01:54 PM   #50 
  - So, if a thief steals a watch  Terwilliger   Feb-15-04 01:55 PM   #52 
  - I don't know what you're talking about  bluestateguy   Feb-15-04 02:02 PM   #62 
  - I'm Having Difficulty With That One Too...  arwalden   Feb-15-04 02:24 PM   #76 
  - of course you don't  Terwilliger   Feb-15-04 03:18 PM   #87 
     - No. The Security Guard Was Betrayed.  arwalden   Feb-15-04 03:37 PM   #94 
  - Sometimes things need to be spelled out for our members...  hedgetrimmer   Feb-15-04 03:01 PM   #84 
     - Complicity. I Blame The Eyewitness For Holding & Restraining The Victim...  arwalden   Feb-15-04 03:12 PM   #85 
     - ENABLE: (verb) What the Democratic party does for the Republican party  Terwilliger   Feb-15-04 03:19 PM   #89 
     - The "democrat" party  bluestateguy   Feb-15-04 03:15 PM   #86 
        - Umm...it was "stolen" while Gore and other Dems were fighting them  Terwilliger   Feb-15-04 03:21 PM   #90 
        - I'm Thinking It Was A Typo... But It Raised A Red-Flag With Me Too  arwalden   Feb-15-04 03:30 PM   #93 
  - Thank You, BSG!!  arwalden   Feb-15-04 02:23 PM   #74 
  - This is like a dog chasing its tail...  JailForBush   Feb-15-04 02:04 PM   #64 
  - i know nader has skeletons but he is not running as a green david cobb is  corporatewhore   Feb-15-04 02:14 PM   #68 
     - But he was supported by the Green Party in 2000, and he and the Green  JailForBush   Feb-15-04 02:39 PM   #81 
  - Clinton and Gore ran an excessive drug war  mdmc   Feb-15-04 02:16 PM   #70 
  - It's hard to say  mvd   Feb-15-04 02:19 PM   #72 
  - Gore, the Democrat, got more votes.  Octafish   Feb-15-04 02:20 PM   #73 
  - Gore. Did. Not. Lose.  Zhade   Feb-15-04 02:28 PM   #77 
  - You're expecting people to read?!  Iverson   Feb-15-04 05:21 PM   #97 
  - It is partly *my* fault for promoting Nader in 2000.  poskonig   Feb-15-04 03:18 PM   #88 
  - Same here. I voted Nader in 2000- I bought the "big lie"...  Dr Fate   Feb-15-04 03:25 PM   #91 
  - It was a combination of factors, including:  Goldberg   Feb-15-04 03:27 PM   #92 
  - Meldread, you are right on the button with....  lams712   Feb-15-04 05:42 PM   #101 
 

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