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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 02:03 PM
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50. ridiculous to compare small business owners to multi-national corps
no one is calling you a traitor. no one is saying that a business wanting to make a profit is a traitor. I've seen this unfortunate defense of multi-national corporations from small business owners before. it's totally misguided.

we're talking here about massive corporate power that puts millions and millions of dollars into the hands of people they want to elect. do you do that?

we're talking here about powerful oil interests that are able to manufacture wars for their greedy bottom lines. do you do that?

we're talking here about huge pharmaceutical interests that wrote last year's Medicare bill and was able to railroad it through the Congress. do you do that?

we're talking here about a health insurance industry that leaves more than 46 million Americans, many of them children, with no health care or inadequate health care. do you do that?

we're talking here about a banking and finance industry that is able to pass a bankruptcy bill that blocks the last escape route for those crushed with debt. do you do that?

we have allowed our political systems in this country to become poisoned by big money. that big money is pumped into campaigns and into legislative lobbying to further the interests of shareholders WITH NO REGARD for the interests of the country or the American people. I call that treason. And when the bones of America have been picked clean, they will pick up their factories and headquarters and move on to the next victims.

Allow me to recommend a couple of books to you:

1. The Sorrows of Empire by Chalmers Johnson
2. Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins.

I just started reading a new book called "America Beyond Capitalism". Here's a paragraph from Chapter One:

In the 1960's roughly two out of three regularly told pollsters they believed government was run "for the benefit of all." Asked in 1999, "Would you say the government is pretty much run by a few big interests looking out for themselves, or that it is run for the benefit of all the people," a mere 19% said that it is run for all. Fully 75% now felt that government was run for the benefit of special interests.

When "special interests" have a greater say in directing policy than the American people do, something is very, very wrong. That is not the America our Founders envisioned. Anything that puts We the People in the backseat and private, commercial interests at the wheel is treasonous.
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  -RFK Jr.: "I will see you all on the barricades" welshTerrier2  Jul-11-07 12:14 AM   #0 
  - What do you think he meant by 'barricades'? nt  babylonsister   Jul-11-07 12:18 AM   #1 
  - i can only assume ...  welshTerrier2   Jul-11-07 12:22 AM   #3 
  - I think he meant this  antigop   Jul-11-07 09:29 AM   #28 
     - He meant the lines have been drawn in the fight to take back the country  bjobotts   Jul-11-07 02:35 PM   #57 
     - .  Marnieworld   Jul-11-07 07:06 PM   #85 
     - This...  Wednesdays   Jul-11-07 06:41 PM   #84 
        - Aux armes, citoyens!  burrowowl   Jul-11-07 08:20 PM   #87 
        - The version from the end of the show seems more appropriate, though  kgfnally   Jul-11-07 09:28 PM   #93 
  - Did you see "Les Mis"???  discerning christian   Jul-11-07 12:47 AM   #6 
  - IMHO you are correct, Barricades = revolution.  FogerRox   Jul-11-07 01:19 AM   #8 
  - Theater geek here  Marnieworld   Jul-11-07 12:09 PM   #37 
  - Yes, we Theater Geeks knew right away, didn't we? n/t  antigop   Jul-11-07 12:46 PM   #41 
  - Oh it's SO good to know I'm not alone!  memory   Jul-11-07 02:03 PM   #51 
  - Oh good I'm not alone  three tears   Jul-11-07 09:52 PM   #100 
     - Oh yah, you should hear my car concerts.  Marnieworld   Jul-12-07 10:09 AM   #116 
  - You are correct  tavalon   Jul-11-07 06:15 PM   #81 
  - Yes. The people have to take back the power.  alphafemale   Jul-11-07 03:53 AM   #14 
  - Full lyrics here..  antigop   Jul-11-07 09:32 AM   #29 
  - Great now that will be in my head all day  Marnieworld   Jul-11-07 12:11 PM   #38 
  - I doubt that he limited his definition of revolution to any one form of  jwirr   Jul-11-07 02:41 PM   #59 
  - Of course he meant Les Mis  janetle   Jul-11-07 09:09 AM   #24 
  - Even carving up economic cobblestones is illegal.  kgfnally   Jul-11-07 09:37 PM   #96 
  - massive protests, a la Berkeley in the '60s  kineneb   Jul-11-07 01:30 AM   #9 
  - Les Miserables reference  BattyDem   Jul-11-07 10:58 AM   #32 
  - Maybe not as much fun  ben_meyers   Jul-11-07 03:18 PM   #65 
  - It's from the French Revolution  sorcrow   Jul-11-07 03:36 PM   #67 
  - Maybe This?  ProudDad   Jul-11-07 09:17 PM   #92 
  - Bless that man  sandnsea   Jul-11-07 12:21 AM   #2 
  - Right, capitalism has to go down -- and patriarchy !!!  defendandprotect   Jul-11-07 02:42 PM   #60 
  - Boycott. Exactly.  Mrs_Commonist   Jul-11-07 05:18 PM   #79 
  - He is SO great!  Maat   Jul-11-07 12:42 AM   #4 
  - love it. bobby is amazing  orleans   Jul-11-07 12:42 AM   #5 
  - Yes, it's a classic call for revolution  oldtime dfl_er   Jul-11-07 12:55 AM   #7 
  - Let's just hope...  markbark   Jul-11-07 04:42 PM   #74 
  - RFK Jr. rules  draft_mario_cuomo   Jul-11-07 01:40 AM   #10 
  - I shall be there, sir!  calimary   Jul-11-07 01:43 AM   #11 
  - Man, I am so thrilled to hear someone speak as if  snot   Jul-11-07 03:22 AM   #12 
  - does anyone care?  demgirlamerica   Jul-11-07 08:32 AM   #19 
     - "isnt anyone else getting tired..." Answer: Nope  KurtNYC   Jul-11-07 12:01 PM   #34 
     - Ease up  DangerDave921   Jul-11-07 01:21 PM   #43 
        - no you ease up  welshTerrier2   Jul-11-07 01:40 PM   #47 
           - ease up redux  DangerDave921   Jul-11-07 02:07 PM   #53 
              - i did not "hit Demgirl" about RFK Jr's father being killed  welshTerrier2   Jul-11-07 02:12 PM   #55 
              - Sorry!  DangerDave921   Jul-11-07 02:47 PM   #61 
                 - no problem, DD  welshTerrier2   Jul-11-07 03:05 PM   #63 
                    - Amtrak  DangerDave921   Jul-11-07 03:17 PM   #64 
              - It was me that pointed out that RFK was assassinated  KurtNYC   Jul-11-07 06:23 PM   #83 
     - Robert Kennedy Jr. has been fighting corporate powers for a long time.  rainy   Jul-11-07 02:22 PM   #56 
     - Have you ever heard of FDR? Privileged, rich, elitist, famous.  jwirr   Jul-11-07 03:01 PM   #62 
     - great points  Carolina   Jul-11-07 06:23 PM   #82 
     - What is your point?  lefador   Jul-11-07 04:40 PM   #73 
     - Here Here  kwolf68   Jul-11-07 05:17 PM   #78 
     - So long, farewell, auf Wiedersehen, good night!  Pastiche423   Jul-11-07 04:59 PM   #77 
     - The Kennedys are not oil barons  RoccoR5955   Jul-11-07 08:15 PM   #86 
     - merely the planet's caretakers?  welshTerrier2   Jul-11-07 08:39 PM   #90 
     - amen, at least he CARES  three tears   Jul-11-07 10:07 PM   #103 
        - money and apathy  welshTerrier2   Jul-11-07 10:18 PM   #105 
     - Actually  ProudDad   Jul-11-07 09:32 PM   #94 
     - Wealth is a tool of power, not a quality of character.  Dora   Jul-11-07 09:49 PM   #99 
     - There are "super rich elitists" who are decent human beings...  TWriterD   Jul-11-07 10:17 PM   #104 
     - Change - not sacrifice  sandnsea   Jul-12-07 12:19 AM   #111 
  - My contention exactly about "Clean Coal" ..a Lie in league with 5 Coal Companies!..  Tellurian   Jul-11-07 03:40 AM   #13 
  - morning kick  DemReadingDU   Jul-11-07 05:58 AM   #15 
  - Dang! Powerful. Inspiring. Another leader worth following.  mdelaguna2000   Jul-11-07 06:07 AM   #16 
  - On the field of battle, man the barricades to staunch the enemy advance  NoFederales   Jul-11-07 08:07 AM   #17 
  - RFK Jr. is THE MAN!!!  Odin2005   Jul-11-07 08:26 AM   #18 
  - His father would be justifiably, PROUD. n/t  greyghost   Jul-11-07 08:34 AM   #20 
  - This man is a true American hero!  Totally Committed   Jul-11-07 08:45 AM   #21 
  - Gore/Kenndy 08!  JNelson6563   Jul-11-07 08:57 AM   #22 
  - Would that be an awesome ticket, or what?????  Totally Committed   Jul-11-07 08:58 AM   #23 
  - Almost as good as Gore-Obama  Apollo11   Jul-11-07 09:18 AM   #27 
  - Unfortunately not  digidigido   Jul-11-07 01:54 PM   #49 
  - Do you mean like in 2000  Pastiche423   Jul-11-07 04:47 PM   #75 
     - Busted or Convicted?  digidigido   Jul-11-07 09:44 PM   #97 
     - You have got to be kidding  Pastiche423   Jul-11-07 11:16 PM   #110 
     - Busted or convicted?  digidigido   Jul-11-07 09:48 PM   #98 
  - I should have known  SharonRB   Jul-11-07 10:41 PM   #108 
  - Just in case any of you would like to thank him, encourage him, or anything.....  Totally Committed   Jul-11-07 09:13 AM   #25 
  - Thank you for the contact info.  NoFederales   Jul-11-07 10:06 AM   #30 
  - Good speech  Apollo11   Jul-11-07 09:16 AM   #26 
  - Treason?  DangerDave921   Jul-11-07 10:15 AM   #31 
  - it makes me upset as well  demgirlamerica   Jul-11-07 12:07 PM   #35 
  - Wow!!! You and ol' DangerDave....  Hell Hath No Fury   Jul-11-07 01:36 PM   #45 
  - ??  DangerDave921   Jul-11-07 02:11 PM   #54 
     - Why would would say "I'm not a traitor"?  brentspeak   Jul-11-07 04:00 PM   #69 
        - private financial interest  DangerDave921   Jul-12-07 07:13 AM   #113 
           - you're taking "private financial interest" out of context  welshTerrier2   Jul-12-07 07:35 AM   #114 
           - What does your business do?  ProudDad   Jul-21-07 03:30 PM   #128 
  - The Rush Limbaugh board....this is not.  brentspeak   Jul-11-07 04:02 PM   #70 
  - I agree yet disagree  three tears   Jul-11-07 10:23 PM   #106 
  - ridiculous to compare small business owners to multi-national corps  welshTerrier2   Jul-11-07 02:03 PM   #50 
  - Flashing on a clip I once saw of a Black Panther rally:  BrainGlutton   Jul-11-07 11:45 AM   #33 
  - want to see a real revolution?  demgirlamerica   Jul-11-07 12:12 PM   #39 
     - Yes, I can see a Clinton/Kennedy Revolution.. The world would scream w/JOY!  Tellurian   Jul-11-07 12:23 PM   #40 
     - Excuse me, but Big Oil is rich because the taxpayers gave them huge subsidies.  Maat   Jul-11-07 01:16 PM   #42 
     - lets all agree to this  demgirlamerica   Jul-11-07 03:29 PM   #66 
        - how about publically financed campaigns?  welshTerrier2   Jul-11-07 03:41 PM   #68 
        - crickets ????? n/t  welshTerrier2   Jul-11-07 06:03 PM   #80 
        - Absolutely, Utterly Correct!!!  ProudDad   Jul-21-07 03:36 PM   #129 
        - I agree with providing services, such as welfare benefits,  Maat   Jul-11-07 04:32 PM   #72 
     - Drink it, girl DRINK IT!!!!  Hell Hath No Fury   Jul-11-07 01:38 PM   #46 
     - Why don't you take your revolution to Freeper Land  mconvente   Jul-11-07 02:36 PM   #58 
     - I would love to see them shut off our power.  RoccoR5955   Jul-11-07 08:35 PM   #89 
  - I keep repeating that line since he said it.  Marnieworld   Jul-11-07 12:08 PM   #36 
  - Excellent speech from RFK Jr.!  Uncle Joe   Jul-11-07 01:33 PM   #44 
  - Don't forget his weekly show ;)  NastyDiaper   Jul-11-07 01:41 PM   #48 
  - Kick  politicasista   Jul-11-07 02:05 PM   # 
  - delete. dupe n/t  politicasista   Jul-11-07 02:05 PM   #52 
  - RFK Jr.  november3rd   Jul-11-07 04:14 PM   #71 
  - Hey thanks! I've been wondering if anyone had a transcript of this.  mzmolly   Jul-11-07 04:49 PM   #76 
  - you send an email to their advertisers and tell them that you are not going to buy their products  lonestarnot   Jul-11-07 08:34 PM   #88 
  - RFK Jr. for AG  NBachers   Jul-11-07 09:13 PM   #91 
  - Great Idea (n/t)  ProudDad   Jul-21-07 03:38 PM   #130 
  - DIVEST! DIVEST! DIVEST! -- NOW!!!  paparush   Jul-11-07 09:33 PM   #95 
  - Invest in green.  jwirr   Jul-11-07 09:58 PM   #101 
  - More! More! More! We need this shouted from every rooftop.  BushDespiser12   Jul-11-07 10:01 PM   #102 
  - Gore/Kennedy '08  SharonRB   Jul-11-07 10:38 PM   #107 
  - agree n/t  cosmicdot   Jul-11-07 11:05 PM   #109 
  - haha! There you are!  JNelson6563   Jul-12-07 09:22 AM   #115 
     - Well, if it's in Detroit  SharonRB   Jul-12-07 04:14 PM   #117 
        - Well, just in case  JNelson6563   Jul-12-07 05:28 PM   #118 
           - Absolutely!  SharonRB   Jul-12-07 06:45 PM   #119 
  - This phrase connects with me personaly in an odd way too.  alphafemale   Jul-12-07 04:03 AM   #112 
  - Maybe he meant he will see us all on the barricades at his first campaign rally?:)  RFKin2008   Jul-20-07 11:20 AM   #120 
     - "I do think he is considering a run"  welshTerrier2   Jul-20-07 11:32 AM   #121 
     - Dare we hope????  Totally Committed   Jul-20-07 11:40 AM   #123 
     - Will RFK Jr. run?  RFKin2008   Jul-21-07 09:34 AM   #124 
     - OMG... be still, my heart!  Totally Committed   Jul-20-07 11:34 AM   #122 
        - Thank you, TC!  RFKin2008   Jul-21-07 09:39 AM   #125 
  - Kick for RFK Jr, a very inspiring voice for political activism in our corporate controlled party.  FreeStateDemocrat   Jul-21-07 03:09 PM   #126 
  - Just sent him money he requested for legal battle against drilling in  MasonJar   Jul-21-07 03:21 PM   #127 
  - A worthy cause...  RFKin2008   Jul-21-07 04:32 PM   #131 
  - I'd like to see him in the RACE FOR 2008! eom  allisonthegreat   Jul-21-07 08:59 PM   #132 

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