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MalloyLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 09:49 AM
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4. Correct. And you weren't in the Senate, Obama. I'm sure you know that.
Nice politicking.
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  -AP: Obama challenges rivals on Iraq war says, "There are no do-overs..." flpoljunkie  Jul-10-07 09:41 AM   #0 
  - I have to disagree with the Senator from Illinois on that issue  BOSSHOG   Jul-10-07 09:43 AM   #1 
  - I think his point is  dansolo   Jul-10-07 12:29 PM   #16 
  - Edwards says that people should consider it and that Obama was right and he was wrong.  jsamuel   Jul-10-07 12:40 PM   #18 
  - It is directed at HRC's proposal to de-authorize the war imo nt  draft_mario_cuomo   Jul-10-07 02:41 PM   #21 
     - He knows HRC's proposal to de-authorize the war will very likely never come to the floor for a vote.  flpoljunkie   Jul-10-07 03:27 PM   #26 
        - Did Obama's Iraq plan get a vote?  draft_mario_cuomo   Jul-10-07 03:31 PM   #27 
           - Obama amendments will boost funding for veterans mental health, and military contractor oversight.  flpoljunkie   Jul-10-07 03:45 PM   #28 
              - Which will do nothing to end the war. I was referring to his much hyped winter bill  draft_mario_cuomo   Jul-10-07 03:50 PM   #29 
                 - A bill which will very likely never make it to the floor, will do nothing to end the war.  flpoljunkie   Jul-10-07 03:55 PM   #30 
                 - I agree  draft_mario_cuomo   Jul-10-07 04:03 PM   #31 
                    - I am, of course, again referring to Hiillary's de-authorization bill.  flpoljunkie   Jul-10-07 05:24 PM   #32 
                 - I think a bill like this, which mirrors the Iraq Study Group's recommendations,only one possible now  flpoljunkie   Jul-10-07 05:27 PM   #33 
                 - Are you saying the Veterans do not deserve the Benefits then?  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 07:38 PM   #41 
  - He stated when he takes office he would be get to start getting our troops out of Iraq.  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 08:59 PM   #90 
  - So what is he doing to stop the war?  jmp   Jul-10-07 09:46 AM   #2 
  - Nothing. He didn't even give a speech in the senate on Iraq during his first 11 months  draft_mario_cuomo   Jul-10-07 02:48 PM   #24 
     - He has done a lot more than Edwards. He has consistently spoke out against the war.  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 08:58 PM   #89 
  - Well there is a do over if he continues to fall in line with RW thinking about Iran  MessiahRp   Jul-10-07 09:47 AM   #3 
  - Did He Say He's Ready To Start A War With Iraq?  MannyGoldstein   Jul-10-07 09:55 AM   #10 
  - It's Iran and his position is the same as Bush's  MessiahRp   Jul-10-07 10:07 AM   #11 
  - It's the same position as all the responsible Democratic candidates  maximusveritas   Jul-10-07 10:13 AM   #12 
  - No he did not say that.  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 08:52 PM   #83 
  - so if Iran invades Israel or Iraq  Scriptor Ignotus   Jul-10-07 02:48 PM   #23 
     - Iran invading Israel...  fujiyama   Jul-10-07 08:07 PM   #65 
        - bwahahhahahahaah  Scriptor Ignotus   Jul-10-07 09:11 PM   #93 
        - Iran has a large Military Force  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 09:13 PM   #94 
  - Correct. And you weren't in the Senate, Obama. I'm sure you know that.  MalloyLiberal   Jul-10-07 09:49 AM   #4 
  - And don't give me bullshit that he gave a speech.  MalloyLiberal   Jul-10-07 09:49 AM   #5 
  - Let's leave aside the fact that he didn't have a vote, if that's your point.  jefferson_dem   Jul-10-07 09:54 AM   #8 
  - He didn't have to give a speech, either.  hedgehog   Jul-10-07 06:59 PM   #39 
  - He wasn't in the Senate, and he saw no intelligence  MalloyLiberal   Jul-10-07 07:44 PM   #46 
     - He was an obscure politician planning to run in a Democratic primary statewide  draft_mario_cuomo   Jul-10-07 07:57 PM   #52 
        - So you're saying Bush went to war in 2003 with the support of  hedgehog   Jul-10-07 08:06 PM   #64 
           - No, but Democratic voters--especially Democratic primary voters opposed the war nt  draft_mario_cuomo   Jul-10-07 08:33 PM   #76 
              - That must explain why Kerry ran such a vigourous anti-war  hedgehog   Jul-10-07 09:22 PM   #97 
                 - Apples and Oranges  draft_mario_cuomo   Jul-10-07 09:39 PM   #101 
  - So what he State a FACT We should have never with the WAR  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 08:56 PM   #88 
  - He was not in the Senate. However he was smart enough to know it was a bad decision.  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 08:50 PM   #82 
  - Stop playing politics with the troops, Obama.....  MalloyLiberal   Jul-10-07 09:50 AM   #6 
  - LOL! Good one.  jefferson_dem   Jul-10-07 09:54 AM   #9 
  - It was his statement in the last debate to Edwards...  MalloyLiberal   Jul-10-07 10:31 AM   #14 
     - No there is no double standars. Obama told Edwards he was 4 years late  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 09:01 PM   #91 
  - So those that helped send the troops there in the first place weren't playing politics?  zulchzulu   Jul-10-07 08:19 PM   #73 
  - Obama never have played Politics with the troops.  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 08:49 PM   #81 
  - He is not playing politics with the troops  Kingstree   Jul-10-07 09:25 PM   #98 
  - Obviously Obama's Right - And About Mrs. Clinton...  MannyGoldstein   Jul-10-07 09:51 AM   #7 
  - Particularly fitting criticism, using Hillary's own words against her...  flpoljunkie   Jul-10-07 10:23 AM   #13 
  - "do what's right and leave politics aside"  frazzled   Jul-10-07 10:56 AM   #15 
  - THe three are all different and their cases are different  karynnj   Jul-10-07 12:29 PM   #17 
     - That is the best summary of war positions I have seen here.  rinsd   Jul-10-07 12:41 PM   #19 
     - Thank you - I was trying to be fair ( I just wish I had reread it to eliminate the many typos)  karynnj   Jul-10-07 05:49 PM   #36 
        - Don't worry about the typos, I second rinsd...  seasonedblue   Jul-10-07 09:32 PM   #100 
     - Edwards did back Kerry/Feingold, he just thought it didn't go far enough.  jsamuel   Jul-10-07 12:43 PM   #20 
        - I think you are thinking of this year's Feingold/Reid  karynnj   Jul-10-07 05:42 PM   #34 
           - Ah, I was thinking of the wrong bill.  jsamuel   Jul-10-07 10:43 PM   #103 
  - The "new kind of politics" rolls on...Interestingly, BO is forced to resort to the 2002 IWR card  draft_mario_cuomo   Jul-10-07 02:46 PM   #22 
  - He's playing politics with our troops....  MalloyLiberal   Jul-10-07 07:39 PM   #42 
     - Obama is not playing Politics with the Troops. He is the one who said  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 07:44 PM   #47 
  - Obama voted for financing the war numerous times  draft_mario_cuomo   Jul-10-07 02:51 PM   #25 
     - only bush can end the war  darboy   Jul-10-07 05:47 PM   #35 
     - Congress can rescind  barack4prez   Jul-10-07 06:53 PM   #38 
     - Bush would have to sign it like any other law  darboy   Jul-11-07 06:15 AM   #105 
        - I don't think so  barack4prez   Jul-11-07 06:33 AM   #107 
           - a declaration of war is a law like any other law  darboy   Jul-11-07 06:39 AM   #108 
     - Congress can force * to end the war by ceasing to finance the war  draft_mario_cuomo   Jul-10-07 07:17 PM   #40 
        - It takes a majority Do we have enough votes? Hell NO  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 08:08 PM   #66 
        - All I ask is to keep bringing the vote up  ludwigb   Jul-10-07 08:16 PM   #70 
           - I agree with you. They need to continuously bring the vote up to get  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 08:18 PM   #71 
        - Bush can funnel money from other sources to the war  darboy   Jul-11-07 06:18 AM   #106 
     - Edwards was spokes person for the war. He voted for the war even knowing  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 05:57 PM   #37 
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        - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-10-07 07:41 PM   #44 
           - Once again, this is about your favorite Obama  MalloyLiberal   Jul-10-07 07:43 PM   #45 
              - Who Endorsed the WAR! It sure the hell was not OBAMA Damit  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 07:46 PM   #48 
                 - Keep switching the topic  MalloyLiberal   Jul-10-07 07:47 PM   #49 
                    - He is not supporting an occupation. He already announced his plan to get out.  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 07:52 PM   #50 
                       - Then why did he continue to fund the OCCUPATION?  MalloyLiberal   Jul-10-07 07:56 PM   #51 
                       - He never supported the Occupation. He voted for the Soldiers to have money  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 08:00 PM   #54 
                          - Money to Bush in order to continue the occupation  draft_mario_cuomo   Jul-10-07 08:02 PM   #56 
                             - Who voted to Authorized the war?  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 08:06 PM   #63 
                                - Not Kucinich. So why don't you answer Cumo's question  MalloyLiberal   Jul-10-07 08:18 PM   #72 
                                - Chirp chirp, what a wimp  MalloyLiberal   Jul-10-07 09:21 PM   #95 
                                - Why do you keep trying to change the question? The truth is Kucinich is the only anti-war candidate  draft_mario_cuomo   Jul-10-07 08:34 PM   #77 
                                   - You are the one trying to change th subject  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 08:54 PM   #85 
                                      - And so was continuing to fund it  MalloyLiberal   Jul-10-07 09:22 PM   #96 
                                         - Exactly. Kucinich is the only one who has been correct on Iraq consistently nt  draft_mario_cuomo   Jul-10-07 09:41 PM   #102 
                       - What do you call financing it? That is not supporting--and voting for--it?  draft_mario_cuomo   Jul-10-07 07:59 PM   #53 
                          - that is because HRC likes to copy people and then take credit for herself.  illinoisprogressive   Jul-10-07 08:02 PM   #55 
                          - and as I recall, you guy, Edwards, was one of the big drum beaters for war  illinoisprogressive   Jul-10-07 08:03 PM   #58 
                          - He even worked with Bush to be one ot the Spokes person for the war  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 08:05 PM   #60 
                          - I agree with you 150%  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 08:03 PM   #59 
                          - The hawkish DLC leader HRC obviously liked Obama's plan  draft_mario_cuomo   Jul-10-07 08:35 PM   #78 
                          - This is Bull Shit he method of getting out is nothing like Hillary  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 08:03 PM   #57 
                             - and EthelK, who read the Iraq papers. I dont' recall HRC or Edwards bothered  illinoisprogressive   Jul-10-07 08:05 PM   #61 
                             - Neither one of them did.  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 08:06 PM   #62 
                                - And that is why, who is the one with the judgement. Obama  illinoisprogressive   Jul-10-07 08:08 PM   #67 
                                   - I agree with you again 150%  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 08:08 PM   #68 
                                   - Obama didn't read any papers, or have to make any vote  MalloyLiberal   Jul-10-07 08:19 PM   #74 
                                   - True but he had the common sense to know it was not the correct war to be in.  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 08:22 PM   #75 
                                   - Dennis Kucinich has never voted for the war. He is the only one with flawless judgment on Iraq  draft_mario_cuomo   Jul-10-07 08:39 PM   #80 
                             - What are the differences between Obama's plan and HRC's plan on Iraq?  draft_mario_cuomo   Jul-10-07 08:37 PM   #79 
     - Right  ludwigb   Jul-10-07 08:14 PM   #69 
        - I wasn't aware HRC had any real plans out. All I've heard is sound bites.  illinoisprogressive   Jul-10-07 08:54 PM   #84 
           - No she does not.  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 08:55 PM   #86 
           - Oh, wait, wasn't that what her little talk today was about. Her plan.  illinoisprogressive   Jul-10-07 08:55 PM   #87 
           - A little late  Ethelk2044   Jul-10-07 09:03 PM   #92 
           - Ha! If Hillary speaks out and has a plan about Iraq, that means of course  earthlover   Jul-10-07 09:27 PM   #99 
           - Maybe if you were aware you would know the HRC's platform on Iraq is identical to your candidate's  draft_mario_cuomo   Jul-10-07 10:47 PM   #104 
 

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