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Tue Jun-26-07 10:28 PM
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| 47. I did list males on the list too so I guess that makes me... |
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sexist against males and females...
and no I didn't insinuate that they are not qualified... I insinuated that it would be stupid to give them those jobs just because their spouses had the job. My spouse is an Arabic Linguist but that doesn't automatically mean that I am qualified to be one. So get off of your high horse. My post has nothing to do with people being male or female.
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| -Hillary as Pres. makes as much sense as Melinda Gates running microsoft |
mckeown1128 |
Jun-26-07 09:36 PM |
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well that`s a new angle n/t |
madrchsod |
Jun-26-07 09:37 PM |
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If only Mckeown was a communicator.. |
Tellurian |
Jun-26-07 10:53 PM |
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Is that supposed to be some profound revelation? |
ripple |
Jun-27-07 09:05 AM |
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Hillary is the most qualified candidate in the field of contenders, Dem or Pub.. |
Tellurian |
Jun-27-07 11:22 AM |
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I disagree. |
ripple |
Jun-27-07 12:35 PM |
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No, I'll be clinking a champagne glass, saluting my candidate for a job well done! |
Tellurian |
Jun-27-07 04:03 PM |
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Hillary is the most qualified candidate, she also already has the $$$ support from Ins. & healthcare |
Imagevision |
Jun-27-07 03:24 PM |
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Haha....Very nicely said. nt |
TeamJordan23 |
Jun-26-07 09:38 PM |
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<self delete> |
TeamJordan23 |
Jun-26-07 09:38 PM |
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I'm not a Clinton fan, but why haven't you even mentioned her work in NY |
babylonsister |
Jun-26-07 09:40 PM |
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It's in reference to DMC's thread earlier today. nt |
TeamJordan23 |
Jun-26-07 09:42 PM |
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Who is DMC? NMI=need more info. nt |
babylonsister |
Jun-26-07 09:47 PM |
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sorry, here u go: |
TeamJordan23 |
Jun-26-07 10:38 PM |
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Oh, a TAG TEAM! Got it! |
babylonsister |
Jun-26-07 10:52 PM |
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I am not saying that she has no experience |
mckeown1128 |
Jun-26-07 09:47 PM |
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So any other experience doesn't count? She does have some. nt |
babylonsister |
Jun-26-07 10:01 PM |
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Who was that young lawyer for the Watergate Commission and the research that led |
CK_John |
Jun-26-07 10:09 PM |
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One of a huge team |
karynnj |
Jun-27-07 07:28 AM |
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You are stating because one is a Lawyer you are automatically qualified to be President? |
Kingstree |
Jun-27-07 07:34 AM |
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It's a start. They've at least studied the law. Do you think an MBA is a better qualification? n/t |
Iris |
Jun-27-07 04:12 PM |
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Those are your words |
October |
Jun-28-07 09:52 AM |
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No one is questioning her Senate Experience |
Ethelk2044 |
Jun-27-07 07:22 AM |
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I question her Senate experience! |
bvar22 |
Jun-27-07 01:27 PM |
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Who is "many people"? This is the first I've heard it mentioned. |
October |
Jun-28-07 09:53 AM |
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I think she does deserve some credit as first lady |
karynnj |
Jun-27-07 07:24 AM |
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RNC sexist hogwash! |
Jim Sagle |
Jun-26-07 09:40 PM |
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This has nothing to do with her being a female... |
mckeown1128 |
Jun-26-07 09:50 PM |
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yeah, right |
hlthe2b |
Jun-26-07 09:57 PM |
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Can't have a post critical of Hillary... |
mckeown1128 |
Jun-26-07 10:06 PM |
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I dare say most here are NOT Hillary supporters, myself included. |
hlthe2b |
Jun-26-07 10:08 PM |
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You have to explain to me what was sexist in what I said... |
mckeown1128 |
Jun-26-07 10:16 PM |
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See post #41... |
hlthe2b |
Jun-26-07 10:22 PM |
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God... |
sendero |
Jun-27-07 07:04 AM |
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A South-Bashing Misanthrope? |
HughBeaumont |
Jun-28-07 08:34 AM |
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You don't need to thank hlthe2b |
October |
Jun-28-07 09:32 AM |
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You are another... |
sendero |
Jun-28-07 10:59 AM |
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You discounted her entire career - from working on the Watergate scandal to her work |
Captain_Nemo |
Jun-27-07 12:10 AM |
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Please read this slowly since I have had to type.. |
mckeown1128 |
Jun-27-07 01:51 AM |
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You said that her experience as First Lady (married to Bill) should not count as experience. |
Captain_Nemo |
Jun-29-07 12:29 AM |
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This is not sexism. Being a First Lady is not a Political Office. |
Kingstree |
Jun-27-07 07:24 AM |
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"No First Lady in American history had ever had such a direct role in making Presidential policy." |
Captain_Nemo |
Jun-29-07 12:48 AM |
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I also found the OP to be extremely sexist |
lwfern |
Jun-28-07 09:25 AM |
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You're nicer than me. I would have said sexist bullshit. |
Midlodemocrat |
Jun-26-07 10:02 PM |
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OK - I'll say it. |
emilyg |
Jun-27-07 12:20 AM |
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Ooooh! Lame Victim Card Excuse Alert!!! |
zulchzulu |
Jun-26-07 11:19 PM |
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Hey Ace, I'm no fan of Hillary. At all. |
Jim Sagle |
Jun-26-07 11:30 PM |
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Now I am sexist and a hidden Republican because... |
mckeown1128 |
Jun-27-07 01:58 AM |
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Jim, while it can be Rovian, you are aware that TeamClinton will use... |
mitchum |
Jun-27-07 02:25 AM |
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Then denounce their ugly tactics. Does it help to emulate them? |
Jim Sagle |
Jun-27-07 07:06 AM |
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Ick... |
zulchzulu |
Jun-27-07 07:09 AM |
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Your argument requires you simply stop at the title "First Lady"... |
SaveElmer |
Jun-26-07 09:42 PM |
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You can't attack Obama for running for president 2 years... |
mckeown1128 |
Jun-26-07 09:53 PM |
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except she already served one term |
dsc |
Jun-26-07 09:57 PM |
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Except Hillary made it very clear... |
SaveElmer |
Jun-26-07 09:57 PM |
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You forget that the majority of those in Illinois want |
mckeown1128 |
Jun-27-07 05:08 PM |
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well...how do you explain how Obama has EXACTLY the same experience |
earthlover |
Jun-26-07 10:18 PM |
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Abe Lincoln was a compromise candidate...no one's first choice... |
SaveElmer |
Jun-26-07 10:36 PM |
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so you admit that even such an "undistinguished" level of experience such as Lincoln's |
earthlover |
Jun-26-07 10:57 PM |
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It is also possible that I could be the one in 200 million... |
SaveElmer |
Jun-27-07 07:10 AM |
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Experience is just a small part of the equation as to what makes a good president.... |
earthlover |
Jun-27-07 09:44 PM |
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Actually it is the Obama people that are obsessed with the topic... |
SaveElmer |
Jun-28-07 09:30 AM |
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This is B S Obama's Experience in State Qualifies him to Run along |
Kingstree |
Jun-27-07 07:49 AM |
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Melinda Gates will be on the Bloomberg tickek as VP. n/t |
CK_John |
Jun-26-07 09:45 PM |
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Melinda Gates was a business lawyer....I suspect she's entirely capable of running MS. |
Old and In the Way |
Jun-26-07 09:53 PM |
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This is a defensive post against really dirty attacks on |
mckeown1128 |
Jun-26-07 10:00 PM |
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Show me a single post that claims... |
SaveElmer |
Jun-26-07 10:04 PM |
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Name removed |
Jun-26-07 10:10 PM |
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You can't even accurately state your own argument... |
SaveElmer |
Jun-26-07 10:14 PM |
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Hillary supporter do make the argument that Obama.... |
mckeown1128 |
Jun-26-07 10:23 PM |
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Didn't see a single post that said Obama was unqualified... |
SaveElmer |
Jun-26-07 10:29 PM |
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This sort of looks like one... (Post 24) |
hughee99 |
Jun-27-07 04:47 PM |
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just so inexperienced that he would have a 1 in 200 million chance.... |
earthlover |
Jun-27-07 09:53 PM |
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Actually, by responding to this drivvel about experience, Obama's supporters |
earthlover |
Jun-27-07 09:57 PM |
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shhhh... |
hlthe2b |
Jun-26-07 10:12 PM |
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Yup... |
hlthe2b |
Jun-26-07 10:00 PM |
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Well done. |
October |
Jun-28-07 10:01 AM |
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First of all, what do you know about Melinda Gates... |
hlthe2b |
Jun-26-07 09:54 PM |
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I don't know anything about Melinda Gates... |
mckeown1128 |
Jun-26-07 10:13 PM |
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You know nothing re: Melinda Gates nor Hillary Clinton's records |
hlthe2b |
Jun-26-07 10:19 PM |
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I did list males on the list too so I guess that makes me... |
mckeown1128 |
Jun-26-07 10:28 PM |
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Throwing in a couple of male names is not fooling anyone... |
hlthe2b |
Jun-26-07 10:33 PM |
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So you admit it... |
mckeown1128 |
Jun-26-07 10:51 PM |
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Denial is not just a river in Egypt, mckeown1128 |
hlthe2b |
Jun-26-07 11:05 PM |
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Do you even know what straw man argument is?? |
mckeown1128 |
Jun-26-07 11:39 PM |
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You have changed your argument so many times--, even editing |
hlthe2b |
Jun-26-07 11:50 PM |
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I edited very shortly after I originally posted in order to clarify... |
mckeown1128 |
Jun-27-07 12:06 AM |
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I believe Bill will Agree Melinda is not qualified to run MS. |
Kingstree |
Jun-27-07 07:32 AM |
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I seriously doubt Bill would think that about his wife. You may be a woman, but are you aware that |
Iris |
Jun-27-07 04:22 PM |
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Melinda Gates could run Microsoft IMO - Gates was no techie - just a rich kid |
papau |
Jun-26-07 09:58 PM |
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Nice revisionist history of Gates |
lwcon |
Jun-27-07 07:15 AM |
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It is not revisionist history - in 1964 Basic was the IBM terminal programing lanuage - by 1968 |
papau |
Jun-27-07 08:27 AM |
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Gates is as smart a person as I've ever met |
lwcon |
Jun-27-07 01:38 PM |
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Gates did grow the company from 79 to 82 when those of us watching thought he would lose control - |
papau |
Jun-27-07 08:31 PM |
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Only one of my meetings with Bill Gates was an interview |
lwcon |
Jun-27-07 09:47 PM |
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I agree - at first the new office seemed so much easier to learn all the |
papau |
Jun-28-07 08:13 AM |
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Who says Melinda Gates running Microsoft doesn't make sense? |
GloriaSmith |
Jun-26-07 09:59 PM |
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The point of the OP's post is |
rpannier |
Jun-26-07 10:57 PM |
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It's like having your surgeons wife claim she's experience to operate because of her hubby. |
illinoisprogressive |
Jun-26-07 09:59 PM |
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that is ridiculous... |
hlthe2b |
Jun-26-07 11:35 PM |
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Not when that surgeon does not have experience doing Surgery. |
Ethelk2044 |
Jun-27-07 07:56 AM |
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Obama as President makes as much sense as making a 2nd year Resident Chief of surgery... |
SaveElmer |
Jun-26-07 10:01 PM |
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He has more political Experience than her. He has held State |
Ethelk2044 |
Jun-27-07 07:57 AM |
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Your knowledge of state politics as opposed to national... |
SaveElmer |
Jun-27-07 10:28 AM |
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Her work as First Lady WAS political experience. Her work in Senate IS political exp. |
Captain_Nemo |
Jun-29-07 01:01 AM |
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Certainly Laura Bush and Joyce Rumsfeld couldn't have done any worse...nt |
SaveElmer |
Jun-26-07 10:05 PM |
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You actually have a point there. nt |
mckeown1128 |
Jun-26-07 10:12 PM |
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None of them are qualified either. |
Ethelk2044 |
Jun-27-07 07:58 AM |
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I think Senator Clinton is better prepared to be pres than Governor Clinton was |
terisan |
Jun-26-07 10:13 PM |
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so what is Hillary's health care program today? that is the issue |
earthlover |
Jun-26-07 10:23 PM |
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First goal... |
SaveElmer |
Jun-26-07 10:31 PM |
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She acheived her first goal. |
JTFrog |
Jun-27-07 04:43 AM |
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Funny... |
SaveElmer |
Jun-27-07 07:08 AM |
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S-CHIP was Kennedy/Hatch legislation |
karynnj |
Jun-27-07 07:49 AM |
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Melinda Gates is pretty damned smart. |
MookieWilson |
Jun-26-07 10:15 PM |
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Elmer, Hil has 6 yrs so she must be first year, Obama has 11 |
illinoisprogressive |
Jun-26-07 10:18 PM |
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She is in the first year of her second term... |
SaveElmer |
Jun-26-07 10:23 PM |
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again if you are gpoing to count this year for Clinton... |
mckeown1128 |
Jun-26-07 10:37 PM |
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7-3...6-2 ... |
SaveElmer |
Jun-26-07 10:39 PM |
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Correction Hillary 7 Obama 10 |
Ethelk2044 |
Jun-27-07 07:59 AM |
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Correction |
SaveElmer |
Jun-27-07 10:18 AM |
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so obama had the same experience 8 years in IL state leg and 2 nationally |
earthlover |
Jun-26-07 10:39 PM |
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Feel free to continue looking foolish...nt |
SaveElmer |
Jun-26-07 10:41 PM |
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He is correct from your logic |
Ethelk2044 |
Jun-27-07 08:00 AM |
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sorry, meant to say same experience as LINCOLN! |
earthlover |
Jun-26-07 10:41 PM |
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Abe Lincoln was a compromise candidate...no one's first choice... |
SaveElmer |
Jun-26-07 10:47 PM |
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nope, I brought a yardstick with me.. |
Tellurian |
Jun-26-07 10:56 PM |
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Your facts here are skewed: She DID help balance the budget. She and he ( a team) |
Captain_Nemo |
Jun-26-07 10:19 PM |
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ok...let's compare the candidates on their ELECTED experience..... |
earthlover |
Jun-26-07 10:30 PM |
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Sorry as important as being a state legislator is... |
SaveElmer |
Jun-26-07 10:33 PM |
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Right on. |
Captain_Nemo |
Jun-27-07 12:06 AM |
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Next they'll add in school board and dogcatcher as "elected experience" |
mainer |
Jun-28-07 08:46 AM |
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Pelosi and Thatcher don't have political experience?! nt |
mckeown1128 |
Jun-26-07 10:40 PM |
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This conversation is not helpful. The topic itself is based in sexism and falsehoods. Maybe we |
Captain_Nemo |
Jun-27-07 12:08 AM |
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what sexism.... what was false....??? nt |
mckeown1128 |
Jun-27-07 01:44 AM |
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If they were really a team - then she already served 8 years as President |
karynnj |
Jun-27-07 07:52 AM |
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if they really were a team....why did Monica, et al "happen"? |
earthlover |
Jun-27-07 09:24 PM |
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"Monica" was not part of their political agenda |
karynnj |
Jun-28-07 07:06 AM |
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Well, a president and vice president are a team |
ElizabethDC |
Jun-28-07 08:17 AM |
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WTF are you smoking guy? Hillary would make a fine President...much better than RUDY |
opihimoimoi |
Jun-26-07 10:32 PM |
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... but 45% of the population hasn't already concluded that they won't support Melinda Gates as CEO. |
Stop Cornyn |
Jun-26-07 10:55 PM |
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And some of that 45% will give sopme reflection to their decision based on who the republikkans pick |
rpannier |
Jun-26-07 11:00 PM |
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Joyce Rumsfeld could probably run the Iraq War a lot better than Don Rumsfeld |
Hippo_Tron |
Jun-26-07 11:08 PM |
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She is a terrible general election candidate. |
IamyourTVandIownyou |
Jun-27-07 12:44 AM |
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Watch out... |
mckeown1128 |
Jun-27-07 02:04 AM |
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No, IAmYourTV.. is making a point on her based on her positions |
hlthe2b |
Jun-27-07 06:37 AM |
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It is sad that Hillary's supporters are... |
mckeown1128 |
Jun-27-07 05:01 PM |
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It is her record that you are ignoring... |
SaveElmer |
Jun-27-07 07:50 PM |
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Another piece of sexism is voting for Hillary because she is female |
earthlover |
Jun-27-07 10:21 PM |
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She has less elected political experience than either Edwards or Obama. |
calteacherguy |
Jun-27-07 02:02 AM |
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How does she have less than Edwards? |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-28-07 12:09 AM |
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She has more experience |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-27-07 02:48 AM |
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But Edwards has experience running for president and vice president |
earthlover |
Jun-28-07 05:26 AM |
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well I think Clinton |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-28-07 10:36 AM |
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So now Hillary "knows something about" campaigns |
earthlover |
Jun-28-07 06:48 PM |
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The fact is |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-28-07 08:11 PM |
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It was Bill's experiences of running in 92 and 96 |
earthlover |
Jun-28-07 10:12 PM |
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She's got Rupert Murdoch eating out of her hand |
Perry Logan |
Jun-27-07 06:54 AM |
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you gotta be kidding! Murdock wants her to be nomnated because he knows she is the easiest target! |
earthlover |
Jun-28-07 10:15 PM |
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That's just ridiculous |
MaineDem |
Jun-27-07 06:55 AM |
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It also makes as much sense as a Brian Doctor |
Ethelk2044 |
Jun-27-07 06:56 AM |
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Thank you. |
Dawgs |
Jun-27-07 07:55 AM |
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I disagree with you |
Evergreen Emerald |
Jun-27-07 08:39 AM |
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With the Logic you just gave I should be able to run Microsoft or any other |
Kingstree |
Jun-27-07 10:29 AM |
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I do not understand your analogy |
Evergreen Emerald |
Jun-27-07 07:47 PM |
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Actually Melinda Gates makes more sense ... |
Everybody |
Jun-27-07 09:02 AM |
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I believe your sexist attitudes are in |
femrap |
Jun-27-07 09:55 AM |
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It is not a sexist remark. Hillary supporters were stating that she was |
Kingstree |
Jun-27-07 10:32 AM |
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I am asking that you here what I am trying to say. |
mckeown1128 |
Jun-27-07 12:24 PM |
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What national experience did Bill have before taking Presidency?...None. nt |
TeamJordan23 |
Jun-27-07 10:03 AM |
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Bravo! I've made the statement - quite similar to yours on a smaller scale. |
ShortnFiery |
Jun-27-07 04:15 PM |
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That analogy doesn't work. |
Connie_Corleone |
Jun-27-07 09:44 PM |
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Edwards was busy running for president... |
mckeown1128 |
Jun-28-07 12:09 PM |
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No, but she does have the experience of living he life in a fish bowl |
WCGreen |
Jun-27-07 09:48 PM |
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So what *she's tough?* WTF? We need *a leader* not another jerk - bully? n/t |
ShortnFiery |
Jun-28-07 05:34 AM |
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The "Experience" Factor |
election_2004 |
Jun-28-07 12:13 AM |
#152 |
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This is NOT a good strategy for lifting Obama's poll ratings |
Chomskyite |
Jun-28-07 12:18 PM |
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Yes, but most married women don't edge into competing for "The Chief of Staff" position. |
ShortnFiery |
Jun-28-07 06:55 PM |
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Not that I have any dogs in this race yet... |
LanternWaste |
Jun-29-07 07:22 AM |
#178 |
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