| 188. It has been said that if Hillary runs, Mike doesn't. If she doesn't get the nom, he's in. NT |
| -Well, if Hillary is our nominee, will you vote for her? |
ih8thegop |
Jun-18-07 12:57 PM |
#0 |
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That poll is insulting. |
Totally Committed |
Jun-18-07 12:59 PM |
#1 |
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Even more insulting is that almost a quarter have voted the wrong way |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jun-18-07 01:28 PM |
#19 |
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I hope they don't plan on posting here |
ronnykmarshall |
Jun-18-07 01:48 PM |
#34 |
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I don't think it will be pretty here on DU if or when Hillary gets the nom. |
Heaven and Earth |
Jun-18-07 01:53 PM |
#37 |
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It will be like hell on earth. |
ronnykmarshall |
Jun-18-07 01:57 PM |
#39 |
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Well, Hillary also has a dedicated group of people |
Heaven and Earth |
Jun-18-07 02:04 PM |
#44 |
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I hear ya. |
ronnykmarshall |
Jun-18-07 02:34 PM |
#61 |
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... |
ellisonz |
Jun-19-07 06:59 AM |
#146 |
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Boy, thats an understatement! |
William769 |
Jun-18-07 03:34 PM |
#75 |
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Then Canadian emmigration will probably pick up! |
calipendence |
Jun-18-07 10:01 PM |
#131 |
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Call Canada and ask how long it will take to be allowed to move there |
Marrah_G |
Jun-24-07 09:18 PM |
#198 |
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This is way below Democratically inclined people. Talk about push polling. |
ShortnFiery |
Jun-18-07 02:19 PM |
#53 |
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Oh you are SO RIGHT! |
ronnykmarshall |
Jun-18-07 02:38 PM |
#64 |
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Back at ya, Kettle. |
ShortnFiery |
Jun-18-07 04:24 PM |
#83 |
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Um .... |
ronnykmarshall |
Jun-18-07 05:23 PM |
#94 |
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We can post here without voting for her. |
LWolf |
Jun-18-07 08:21 PM |
#117 |
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To what end, though? I'm not yet sure how I'll handle that if she is the Nom. |
Totally Committed |
Jun-19-07 01:15 PM |
#164 |
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Only time will tell. |
LWolf |
Jun-20-07 02:14 PM |
#176 |
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agreed, the anti Obama and anti Clinton posts are getting anoying around |
ihelpu2see |
Jun-18-07 08:21 PM |
#116 |
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Nice poll choices. Trying to intimidate the Left? |
StudentsMustUniteNow |
Jun-18-07 01:00 PM |
#2 |
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You Find That Intimidating, Sir? |
The Magistrate |
Jun-18-07 01:17 PM |
#13 |
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Whats loaded about it? |
William769 |
Jun-18-07 02:36 PM |
#62 |
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Oh brother -- nice push poll |
LostinVA |
Jun-18-07 01:00 PM |
#3 |
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Our country is ready for a feminist president. |
Captain_Nemo |
Jun-18-07 01:00 PM |
#4 |
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This is true; some of us are not intimidated by a powerful woman. n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-18-07 01:02 PM |
#5 |
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Why is it that if you don't like Hillary |
BoneDaddy |
Jun-18-07 01:43 PM |
#32 |
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I don't think its that black and white. Hillary has done things that others Senators/politicians ha |
Captain_Nemo |
Jun-18-07 01:51 PM |
#36 |
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I think you answered your own question |
BoneDaddy |
Jun-18-07 02:01 PM |
#42 |
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I liked your response. I still think a feminist president is necessary for us. I see such |
Captain_Nemo |
Jun-18-07 02:17 PM |
#52 |
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HRC is not a feminist. Many women would differ with you. She's a corporatist. n/t |
ShortnFiery |
Jun-18-07 02:24 PM |
#55 |
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Totally disagree with you. |
Captain_Nemo |
Jun-18-07 03:46 PM |
#78 |
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As a man supporting equality |
BoneDaddy |
Jun-18-07 02:26 PM |
#56 |
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Interested in why |
Captain_Nemo |
Jun-18-07 03:48 PM |
#79 |
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Some hard core fems seem to get |
BoneDaddy |
Jun-18-07 06:16 PM |
#97 |
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I disagree with them I would say I am hardcore fem and I like it when men describe themselves that |
Captain_Nemo |
Jun-18-07 06:23 PM |
#100 |
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Good to hear |
BoneDaddy |
Jun-18-07 08:12 PM |
#114 |
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YOU, a feminist? LOL |
Scout |
Jun-20-07 01:19 PM |
#174 |
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"I think Barack tries to please too many people." |
ellisonz |
Jun-19-07 07:04 AM |
#147 |
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I think the reason folks get angry |
lwfern |
Jun-24-07 02:38 PM |
#195 |
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Thank you. |
hippiechick |
Jun-19-07 08:58 AM |
#157 |
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If it helps, I like HRC scads more than Edwards. |
Clark2008 |
Jun-24-07 10:47 PM |
#201 |
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agreed. |
nickinSTL |
Jun-19-07 07:38 AM |
#151 |
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Is that a question or a statement? |
Bobbieo |
Jun-18-07 01:04 PM |
#7 |
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Maybe... |
peace13 |
Jun-18-07 01:35 PM |
#28 |
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Yes, I believe that is so. People don't see that feminist ideas benefit all of us. |
Captain_Nemo |
Jun-18-07 01:44 PM |
#33 |
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Yes it is, just not Hillary. |
Dawgs |
Jun-18-07 02:48 PM |
#66 |
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And that first feminist president should be... |
iamahaingttta |
Jun-18-07 03:10 PM |
#70 |
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look |
realisticphish |
Jun-18-07 01:03 PM |
#6 |
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"I don't give a damn who everyone votes for" |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-18-07 01:06 PM |
#8 |
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of course i WANT them to vote dem |
realisticphish |
Jun-18-07 01:31 PM |
#23 |
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Good luck with that phone-banking! |
election_2004 |
Jun-18-07 11:37 PM |
#137 |
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I would ask, tho, why they are not voting for the Dem candidate if |
CTyankee |
Jun-18-07 01:14 PM |
#10 |
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Perhaps a "dedicated Dem" only wants to vote for a "dedicated Dem"... |
Dhalgren |
Jun-18-07 01:22 PM |
#16 |
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what we have here is a "worse of two evils" type of situation |
CTyankee |
Jun-18-07 01:42 PM |
#31 |
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yes, that's my logic |
realisticphish |
Jun-18-07 01:34 PM |
#26 |
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but, you ARE voting for the party, not just the candidate |
paulk |
Jun-18-07 02:16 PM |
#51 |
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as usual i will vote my conscious -- |
wildhorses |
Jun-18-07 01:07 PM |
#9 |
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Hmmm |
moose65 |
Jun-18-07 01:16 PM |
#12 |
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stay alert -- |
wildhorses |
Jun-18-07 01:31 PM |
#24 |
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Heh |
WesDem |
Jun-18-07 03:15 PM |
#72 |
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"Any Democrat is better..."? Even Lieberman? |
fiziwig |
Jun-18-07 01:15 PM |
#11 |
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Which Republican is better than Lieberman? |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-18-07 01:17 PM |
#14 |
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There are Republicans better than Lieberman |
StudentsMustUniteNow |
Jun-18-07 01:26 PM |
#17 |
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Not any Republicans who could get the nomination for President |
Freddie Stubbs |
Jun-18-07 01:29 PM |
#20 |
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I think that figure is going to drop significantly, did you see his vote on Gonzales? |
Hippo_Tron |
Jun-18-07 11:32 PM |
#134 |
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He Is Not A Democrat, Sir |
The Magistrate |
Jun-18-07 01:19 PM |
#15 |
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It's the meme that counts here, not the truth. |
William769 |
Jun-18-07 02:37 PM |
#63 |
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Damn straight, I will! |
NoPasaran |
Jun-18-07 01:27 PM |
#18 |
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Yeah, but I sure won't be happy about it, and the way the choices are phrased |
Phredicles |
Jun-18-07 01:29 PM |
#21 |
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Any person that voted against the democrats I question? |
surfermaw |
Jun-18-07 01:31 PM |
#22 |
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Nope...I wont. |
Forkboy |
Jun-18-07 01:33 PM |
#25 |
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That Is A Shame, Sir |
The Magistrate |
Jun-18-07 01:51 PM |
#35 |
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I'm too tired of voting against things.Hatred is no pleasure anymore. |
Forkboy |
Jun-18-07 02:09 PM |
#47 |
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Excellent response. You are not alone - not by a long shot. |
Dhalgren |
Jun-18-07 04:03 PM |
#80 |
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Precisely what I said in the now-locked thread |
Sparkly |
Jun-18-07 02:26 PM |
#57 |
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To those who choose not to vote for the Democratic nominee, |
Staph |
Jun-18-07 01:34 PM |
#27 |
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And to those who would vote for Ralph Nader... |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-18-07 01:36 PM |
#29 |
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Always one of my favorites! |
ronnykmarshall |
Jun-18-07 02:42 PM |
#65 |
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Parties are suppose to work for and earn a voter's support - the Parties don't own that voter. |
Dhalgren |
Jun-18-07 01:58 PM |
#40 |
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And yet the voter has a responsibility regardless. |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-18-07 02:06 PM |
#45 |
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I am not saying one way or the other who I will vote for, at this stage. |
Dhalgren |
Jun-18-07 02:13 PM |
#49 |
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Bingo. My thoughts exactly. |
Heaven and Earth |
Jun-18-07 02:07 PM |
#46 |
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Blame Gore/Leiberman for 2000 loss, not Nader. |
TeamJordan23 |
Jun-19-07 02:12 AM |
#143 |
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Nader was on an ego trip! |
Like It Is |
Jun-20-07 09:35 PM |
#187 |
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If Nader knew about Lieberman THEN what we know about Lieberman NOW. |
PassingFair |
Jun-24-07 11:41 PM |
#205 |
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My vote goes to candidates who want it, and show they want it through their |
Heaven and Earth |
Jun-18-07 01:40 PM |
#30 |
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Yep. If she's nominated in Denver she has my vote. |
Old Crusoe |
Jun-18-07 01:54 PM |
#38 |
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You don't have my option listed. |
iamahaingttta |
Jun-18-07 02:00 PM |
#41 |
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I'm sort of in the same boat. |
NaturalHigh |
Jun-18-07 04:47 PM |
#89 |
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not unless she dramatically changes her stances on the issues... |
mike_c |
Jun-18-07 02:02 PM |
#43 |
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I cant believe that 28% says they would vote third party. |
bamacrat |
Jun-18-07 02:11 PM |
#48 |
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This post is the appropriate response to that. |
Heaven and Earth |
Jun-18-07 02:13 PM |
#50 |
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Because I'd rather have the Republican Corporatist oversee the next Depression. |
ShortnFiery |
Jun-18-07 02:27 PM |
#58 |
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Such an interesting point you bring up because, frankly... |
Poll_Blind |
Jun-18-07 09:10 PM |
#124 |
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I'd rather that there not be a Depression in the first place |
Hippo_Tron |
Jun-18-07 11:39 PM |
#138 |
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There are plenty who don't use 1/4 of their brain |
durrrty libby |
Jun-18-07 02:30 PM |
#59 |
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How lovely. |
ShortnFiery |
Jun-18-07 02:31 PM |
#60 |
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And there are plenty that don't use their brain at all! |
William769 |
Jun-18-07 02:52 PM |
#67 |
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Sad but true. They are, however, good little parrots |
durrrty libby |
Jun-18-07 03:33 PM |
#74 |
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Seems to be an abundance of squawkers from both camps. |
Forkboy |
Jun-18-07 03:42 PM |
#76 |
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It must be nice to be "above it all." |
ShortnFiery |
Jun-18-07 04:27 PM |
#85 |
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Indeed.......it is, as you have said..."Lovely" |
durrrty libby |
Jun-18-07 04:36 PM |
#86 |
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Your demonstrations of one-ups-man-ship are seemingly neverending. |
ShortnFiery |
Jun-18-07 04:46 PM |
#88 |
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Can one ever really be an "overachiever"? |
durrrty libby |
Jun-18-07 05:12 PM |
#90 |
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Sorry, I've enjoyed my entire life as an underachiever. |
ShortnFiery |
Jun-18-07 05:15 PM |
#91 |
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Wow That is just so very sad and explains a lot |
durrrty libby |
Jun-18-07 06:01 PM |
#95 |
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I've achieved quite a lot in my lifetime but I don't make everything "a competition" |
ShortnFiery |
Jun-18-07 07:31 PM |
#111 |
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""Bend to our will, dammit" would work perfect as those folk adore Authoritarian Leaders." |
durrrty libby |
Jun-18-07 08:44 PM |
#119 |
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Well,I don't really feel I'm above it all. |
Forkboy |
Jun-18-07 04:37 PM |
#87 |
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It is now at 40%!! n/t |
Hart2008 |
Jun-18-07 08:53 PM |
#122 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-18-07 02:22 PM |
#54 |
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I'll vote for the nominee, but it won't be Hillary |
Capn Sunshine |
Jun-18-07 02:54 PM |
#68 |
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She hasn't a chance in hell in my state, and she's over the line for me. TOO conservative. |
chaska |
Jun-18-07 03:08 PM |
#69 |
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I haven't decided. |
ulysses |
Jun-18-07 03:13 PM |
#71 |
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It's a moot point. |
Labors of Hercules |
Jun-18-07 03:19 PM |
#73 |
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Vote for her. yes. Enthusiasm to go all out for her, no |
rhombus |
Jun-18-07 03:45 PM |
#77 |
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No way. |
NaturalHigh |
Jun-18-07 04:09 PM |
#81 |
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Yes |
proud patriot |
Jun-18-07 04:12 PM |
#82 |
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FYI, the "nos" are up to 32%, so it's time for the HRC people to insult a third of us? n/t |
ShortnFiery |
Jun-18-07 04:26 PM |
#84 |
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.. |
durrrty libby |
Jun-18-07 05:17 PM |
#92 |
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That's true, those who always have to win - overachievers - just can't |
ShortnFiery |
Jun-18-07 05:22 PM |
#93 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-18-07 06:13 PM |
#96 |
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Hill's not my favorite |
Spiffarino |
Jun-18-07 10:03 PM |
#132 |
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Yes. |
David Zephyr |
Jun-18-07 06:19 PM |
#98 |
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This poll is in part a tribute to all the bridge-building her supporters have done here at DU |
BeyondGeography |
Jun-18-07 06:20 PM |
#99 |
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LOL |
Forkboy |
Jun-18-07 06:46 PM |
#101 |
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Voted No! |
TSIAS |
Jun-18-07 06:51 PM |
#103 |
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They're going to learn the hard way..... |
election_2004 |
Jun-18-07 11:41 PM |
#139 |
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I voted no. She doesn't have a chance in hell of picking up TN anyway |
Geek_Girl |
Jun-18-07 06:46 PM |
#102 |
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It's not important to vote for someone who reflects your values! |
Auntie Bush |
Jun-19-07 03:15 PM |
#170 |
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This is exactly the attitude her and her supporters have had since Bush took office.... |
Flabbergasted |
Jun-18-07 06:58 PM |
#104 |
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"If you want to press this issue so much, I will not vote for her." |
durrrty libby |
Jun-18-07 07:11 PM |
#108 |
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You must like big sister....? |
Flabbergasted |
Jun-18-07 07:20 PM |
#110 |
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Big Sister? Hah |
durrrty libby |
Jun-18-07 07:39 PM |
#112 |
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This poll shows exactly why Dems keep getting the shit kicked out of them. |
DuaneBidoux |
Jun-18-07 06:59 PM |
#105 |
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No kidding. |
LoZoccolo |
Jun-18-07 07:42 PM |
#113 |
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Of course! Isn't this DEMOCRATIC underground? n/t |
DesertRat |
Jun-18-07 07:04 PM |
#106 |
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Yep, I'll even vote for my last, last |
seasonedblue |
Jun-18-07 07:07 PM |
#107 |
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Perhaps waiting, oh I don't know, a YEAR or so might help |
MiniMe |
Jun-18-07 07:12 PM |
#109 |
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Yes, if Hilary is the Dem nominee, I will vote for her |
TXDemGal |
Jun-18-07 08:17 PM |
#115 |
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Amazing |
HooptieWagon |
Jun-18-07 08:30 PM |
#118 |
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Some people probably voted "no" just to piss off the OP |
Heaven and Earth |
Jun-18-07 08:49 PM |
#121 |
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A fair poll might include the possibility of an independent winning the presidency. |
Hart2008 |
Jun-18-07 09:15 PM |
#125 |
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This question should be directed to independents and issue-oriented voters |
IndianaGreen |
Jun-18-07 08:49 PM |
#120 |
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New here, but won't vote for her! |
FarOut |
Jun-18-07 09:03 PM |
#123 |
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You'll snag many suggestions here ... and Welcome to DU. |
ShortnFiery |
Jun-18-07 09:20 PM |
#126 |
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I have voted Dem since JFK, but I will not support a permanent ruling class, fuck the ruling class. |
FreeStateDemocrat |
Jun-18-07 09:33 PM |
#127 |
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C'mon and tell us how you really feel now! Don't hold back! n/t |
Hart2008 |
Jun-18-07 09:36 PM |
#128 |
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I agree completely. |
pamela |
Jun-18-07 11:36 PM |
#136 |
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You think that JFK didn't get to where he was without his father's help? |
Hippo_Tron |
Jun-18-07 11:42 PM |
#140 |
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I will not vote for Hillary.... |
unkachuck |
Jun-18-07 09:49 PM |
#129 |
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If Senator Clinton is the nominee, I'll write in the Democrat |
zulchzulu |
Jun-18-07 09:50 PM |
#130 |
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HOLY SHIT, THIS POLL!! |
yodermon |
Jun-18-07 11:03 PM |
#133 |
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THIS POLL IS BULLSHIT |
churchofreality |
Jun-19-07 07:29 AM |
#149 |
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Well you sound like you fit right in. |
Forkboy |
Jun-19-07 12:06 PM |
#161 |
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Oh, It's Bullshit All Right |
Crisco |
Jun-20-07 08:09 PM |
#185 |
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No, I won't.... |
election_2004 |
Jun-18-07 11:35 PM |
#135 |
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To hell with Hillary. Let her ask her corporate friends for their votes and support |
StudentsMustUniteNow |
Jun-18-07 11:48 PM |
#141 |
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Let her go work for her AIPAC buddies |
Phrogman |
Jun-19-07 02:08 AM |
#142 |
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Thank God DU is not the real world |
MaineDem |
Jun-19-07 06:18 AM |
#144 |
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I don't think anyone should be kicked off DU. But I agree it's not a serious poll |
Bucky |
Jun-19-07 03:24 PM |
#171 |
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I Will Vote For The Democratic Nominee |
DemocratSinceBirth |
Jun-19-07 06:45 AM |
#145 |
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No. |
ellisonz |
Jun-19-07 07:25 AM |
#148 |
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That pic is a hoot! |
Hart2008 |
Jun-19-07 08:58 AM |
#156 |
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All this Hillary hate is going to elect another republican. |
churchofreality |
Jun-19-07 07:32 AM |
#150 |
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It is not the 'Hillary hate' that will elect a republican. |
peace13 |
Jun-19-07 10:50 AM |
#158 |
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My hand just doesn't select Republicans..... |
ooga booga |
Jun-19-07 07:46 AM |
#152 |
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Another Corporate President will DESTROY the Middle Class. |
ShortnFiery |
Jun-19-07 07:54 AM |
#153 |
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A corporate whore with a D after their name is better? |
DemBones DemBones |
Jun-23-07 01:54 PM |
#189 |
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What did Hillary do |
HooptieWagon |
Jun-19-07 08:30 AM |
#154 |
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She voted against both with only 22 Dems against Roberts. What |
Alamom |
Jun-19-07 08:45 AM |
#155 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-19-07 11:31 AM |
#159 |
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Even in this informal poll is it clear there is no way she can win the General Election |
LeviathanCrumbling |
Jun-19-07 11:41 AM |
#160 |
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I agree |
Kingstree |
Jun-19-07 12:07 PM |
#162 |
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I would want to, but I'm not sure if I could bring myself to vote for her. |
LeviathanCrumbling |
Jun-19-07 01:11 PM |
#163 |
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It's CRAZY how many of you won't commit to Democratic victory in 08' |
Kerry2008 |
Jun-19-07 01:15 PM |
#165 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jun-19-07 01:55 PM |
#167 |
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Thank you for your insight |
MaineDem |
Jun-19-07 02:56 PM |
#169 |
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"I now hate democrats more than I do republicans." |
Forkboy |
Jun-19-07 03:47 PM |
#173 |
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Before anyone else passes out from hyperventilation |
Heaven and Earth |
Jun-19-07 01:47 PM |
#166 |
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Of course. n/t |
InvisibleTouch |
Jun-19-07 01:55 PM |
#168 |
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Question for the "never vote for HRC" posters |
onenote |
Jun-19-07 03:33 PM |
#172 |
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Rudy, Fred, Mitt and the gang cordially thank all those choosing option # 2 (nt) |
rinsd |
Jun-20-07 01:23 PM |
#175 |
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Looks like we'll get the president we deserve. n/t |
rucky |
Jun-20-07 02:27 PM |
#177 |
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wow |
BringBigDogBack |
Jun-20-07 02:50 PM |
#178 |
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Yes. Enthusiastically |
Strawman |
Jun-20-07 02:59 PM |
#179 |
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I will vote for her EXTREMELY reluctantly. |
Blue_In_AK |
Jun-20-07 04:10 PM |
#180 |
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Good for you, Blue in AK. |
Kerry2008 |
Jun-20-07 06:01 PM |
#183 |
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I will never support her. Why should I? she is a repuke lite. |
illinoisprogressive |
Jun-20-07 04:18 PM |
#181 |
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That's pathetic. Republican lite my ass. |
Kerry2008 |
Jun-20-07 05:59 PM |
#182 |
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Yes. |
David Zephyr |
Jun-20-07 06:02 PM |
#184 |
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It will be interesting if Bloomberg decides to run |
HooptieWagon |
Jun-20-07 09:13 PM |
#186 |
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It has been said that if Hillary runs, Mike doesn't. If she doesn't get the nom, he's in. NT |
MADem |
Jun-23-07 01:41 PM |
#188 |
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You forgot an option in the poll |
zulchzulu |
Jun-23-07 02:15 PM |
#190 |
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I decided I'd rather post my thoughts... |
GreenTea |
Jun-23-07 03:43 PM |
#191 |
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42% of the respondents are going to vote GOP!!!!!! |
AZBlue |
Jun-23-07 06:24 PM |
#192 |
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me, too |
Bryn |
Jun-24-07 11:09 PM |
#203 |
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Sorry, I'm with Maureen Dowd. Hillary is unsuited for public office. |
rolleitreks |
Jun-23-07 09:30 PM |
#193 |
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Yes, but I'll be doing so knowing my vote means absolutely nothing |
last_texas_dem |
Jun-23-07 10:07 PM |
#194 |
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I would pick ANY of our Democratic candidates over ANY of the Republican candidates! n/t |
Pushed To The Left |
Jun-24-07 09:12 PM |
#196 |
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I support Obama but I will absolutely support whoever the Dem nominee is |
LordJFT |
Jun-24-07 09:16 PM |
#197 |
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the worst Democrat |
darboy |
Jun-24-07 10:06 PM |
#199 |
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I'll vote for Hillary....... |
Independent Democrat |
Jun-24-07 10:30 PM |
#200 |
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Come on people |
Bryn |
Jun-24-07 11:08 PM |
#202 |
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Hillary will abandon us like Bill did..... |
Independent Democrat |
Jun-24-07 11:27 PM |
#204 |
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It depends on her campaign. nt |
Jed Dilligan |
Jun-25-07 12:40 AM |
#206 |