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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 02:41 AM
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7. Did he say these things in HIS book or not?
Edited on Mon Jun-18-07 02:45 AM by draft_mario_cuomo
Let's stop the hero worship and look at what he actually stands for. Were these statements in his book? I don't see Obamians disputing that...
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  -Obama believes Bush, Cheney, Rummy, Libby, and Wolfowitz are noble, patriotic souls? draft_mario_cuomo  Jun-18-07 02:19 AM   #0 
  - Yes. Yes he does...with all his heart.  dicksteele   Jun-18-07 02:24 AM   #1 
  - Which part of his words do you disagree with?  draft_mario_cuomo   Jun-18-07 02:34 AM   #4 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-18-07 02:40 AM   #6 
  - that source is not credible  JI7   Jun-18-07 02:28 AM   #2 
  - Did he say these things in his book or not? nt  draft_mario_cuomo   Jun-18-07 02:32 AM   #3 
     - I heard him say pn MTP that raising the Social Security age  mitchtv   Jun-18-07 05:04 AM   #11 
        - I watch MTP every week. I did not hear him say that  Ethelk2044   Jun-18-07 05:44 AM   #12 
           - The truth shall set you free. Here it is  draft_mario_cuomo   Jun-18-07 01:19 PM   #17 
           - You are right I am wrong , it was "This Week" w/ Geo. Stephanopolus  mitchtv   Jun-18-07 03:27 PM   #25 
  - wsws?  w13rd0   Jun-18-07 02:37 AM   #5 
  - Did he say these things in HIS book or not?  draft_mario_cuomo   Jun-18-07 02:41 AM   #7 
     - Oh you mean Let's stop the bull shit from the Edwards supporter  Ethelk2044   Jun-18-07 05:44 AM   #13 
     - In other words, the quotes are true? nt  draft_mario_cuomo   Jun-18-07 01:25 PM   #19 
     - What words? "Noble" and "patriotic"?  MGKrebs   Jun-18-07 03:50 PM   #34 
     - He said the out of context sentences you quoted.  Radical Activist   Jun-18-07 07:09 PM   #49 
     - What is the context? nt  draft_mario_cuomo   Jun-19-07 01:21 AM   #53 
     - they were in his book, the anti-democratic party analysis was not  Capn Sunshine   Jun-18-07 07:10 PM   #50 
  - Oh great...If true, a Trojan Horse, another one...just terrific. K*R  autorank   Jun-18-07 03:15 AM   #8 
  - I agree, especially on the New Deal. We need to return to our progressive roots  draft_mario_cuomo   Jun-18-07 01:27 PM   #21 
  - The John Edwards campaign: A representative of the American ruling elite postures as a working class  JI7   Jun-18-07 03:19 AM   #9 
  - Interesting find. I wonder if the OP believes that article? NT  NYCGirl   Jun-18-07 03:30 PM   #27 
     - Go figure!!  0007   Jun-18-07 04:26 PM   #44 
  - Hillary Clinton in Detroit: Democrat preaches American nationalism to union bureaucracy  JI7   Jun-18-07 03:21 AM   #10 
  - Like I said yesterday Sleaze and Obama just go natural in the same sentence.  William769   Jun-18-07 06:19 AM   #14 
  - Isn't there a rule against one poster going after an elected Democrat?  Dawgs   Jun-18-07 07:13 AM   #15 
  - Yeah, we need a sort of Patriot Act to silence unruly Dems who dare to question The Messiah!  draft_mario_cuomo   Jun-18-07 01:23 PM   #18 
  - So Edwards and Clinton can be scrutinized in the same way:  NYCGirl   Jun-18-07 04:17 PM   #43 
  - ..need a Patriot Act to silence unruly Dems who dare to question The Messiah and her husband  Capn Sunshine   Jun-18-07 07:13 PM   #51 
  - Democracy is based on truth not manipulation...  mckeown1128   Jun-19-07 02:31 PM   #68 
  - What about what is in Obama's book?  knight_of_the_star   Jun-18-07 01:26 PM   #20 
  - Exactly. Not a single Obama supporter disputes that he said these things in his book  draft_mario_cuomo   Jun-18-07 03:29 PM   #26 
     - Context is everything. You might consider reading the book  ripple   Jun-19-07 04:55 PM   #71 
  - No shit. It's like Obama shit in his Cheerios or something. Like dayum... Take a chill.  jefferson_dem   Jun-18-07 06:30 PM   #47 
  - very interesting find. I do disagree with you equating all of this to third way philosophy, though  wyldwolf   Jun-18-07 10:58 AM   #16 
  - "Obama isn't the person many of his supporters believe him to be"  draft_mario_cuomo   Jun-18-07 01:32 PM   #23 
  - That's like saying Hillary's a fundie  ripple   Jun-18-07 04:06 PM   #40 
     - What about his praise for Clinton's Third Way on pg. 34 of his book?  draft_mario_cuomo   Jun-18-07 04:10 PM   #42 
        - You want to give us a paragraph or two from page 34? NT  NYCGirl   Jun-18-07 06:28 PM   #46 
  - It is the polite thing to say, such as when your wife asks you if a particular outfit makes her look  Freddie Stubbs   Jun-18-07 01:27 PM   #22 
  - It goes beyond rhetoric. He is now being advised by one of *'s war criminals nt  draft_mario_cuomo   Jun-18-07 01:33 PM   #24 
     - LOL @ draft_mario_cuomo  Bullet1987   Jun-18-07 03:34 PM   #28 
        - Hit piece? What parts of the article do you disagree with? These quotes are from BO's book!  draft_mario_cuomo   Jun-18-07 03:35 PM   #29 
        - LOL@draft_mario_cumuo  Bullet1987   Jun-18-07 03:43 PM   #32 
        - If equal time were a mandate..  Tellurian   Jun-18-07 03:36 PM   #30 
  - You should see what that publication says about John Edwards:  NYCGirl   Jun-18-07 03:42 PM   #31 
  - Is there another source?  Alexia Wheaton   Jun-18-07 03:45 PM   #33 
  - Yes, here is another source  draft_mario_cuomo   Jun-18-07 03:56 PM   #36 
  - Oh boy. Now there's a reputable source.  jefferson_dem   Jun-18-07 03:52 PM   #35 
  - You are a big Obama supporter. Surely you have read his book  draft_mario_cuomo   Jun-18-07 03:57 PM   #38 
     - I have read the book and i'm not disputing that the quotes are there (though i haven't checked).  jefferson_dem   Jun-18-07 06:25 PM   #45 
  - Well... I Think It's Time That The DEMOCRATS Decide NOT To Have  ChiciB1   Jun-18-07 03:57 PM   #37 
  - This is part of the democratic process  draft_mario_cuomo   Jun-18-07 03:59 PM   #39 
  - You haven't answered my question.  MGKrebs   Jun-18-07 04:07 PM   #41 
  - MGK This maybe what your looking for-  Tellurian   Jun-19-07 03:14 AM   #60 
     - Thanks. I just don't see the words "noble" or "patriotic"  MGKrebs   Jun-19-07 07:04 AM   #61 
  - Its called civility.  Radical Activist   Jun-18-07 07:07 PM   #48 
  - Really? So why haven't any Obama supporters disputed the content of the article?  draft_mario_cuomo   Jun-19-07 01:31 AM   #54 
  - If you read the book  Radical Activist   Jun-19-07 02:22 PM   #67 
     - The OP is an Edwards supporter. NT  NYCGirl   Jun-19-07 04:57 PM   #72 
  - Yes but as usual..  sendero   Jun-19-07 07:23 AM   #62 
     - Being nasty  Radical Activist   Jun-19-07 02:12 PM   #66 
        - One doesn't have...  sendero   Jun-19-07 05:09 PM   #74 
  - GO KUCINICH!  burrowowl   Jun-19-07 01:12 AM   #52 
  - What's new? More smearing by DMC.  TeamJordan23   Jun-19-07 01:44 AM   #55 
  - What a cop out, poon tang answer.  bamacrat   Jun-19-07 01:49 AM   #56 
  - Does this mean he's going to try to be nice to Swift Boaters instead of fighting back? n/t  eridani   Jun-19-07 01:59 AM   #57 
  - DMC, if your logic is correct, wouldn't Obama have been a cheerleader for the Iraq War with NeoCons?  TeamJordan23   Jun-19-07 02:03 AM   #58 
  - No one is saying he is a neocon. He simply thinks the neocons are good people...  draft_mario_cuomo   Jun-19-07 02:34 AM   #59 
     - False premise, unsupported conclusion, and slanderous speculation.  MGKrebs   Jun-19-07 11:09 AM   #65 
  - I get the idea..  sendero   Jun-19-07 07:28 AM   #63 
  - I don't think Obama has 'soul'  donsu   Jun-19-07 10:38 AM   #64 
  - I agree with everything he says. When you stop viewing his words  wienerdoggie   Jun-19-07 02:32 PM   #69 
  - If that article is credible by your standards, I presume you will find this one equally credible  ripple   Jun-19-07 02:39 PM   #70 
     - What I found interesting were the quotes from Obama's own book  draft_mario_cuomo   Jun-19-07 04:58 PM   #73 
        - See post #71  ripple   Jun-19-07 05:15 PM   #75 

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