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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 04:28 PM
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27. You don't remember the Fifties and most of the Sixties, when one income

could support a family with four or five children. I grew up in a military family (not an officer's family, so it was essentially working-class) and had to borrow money to pay what my merit scholarship didn't. But times have changed.

You got your college education before the cuts in student loans made that more difficult to do. Nurses will always be in demand and they can't outsource nursing jobs, though you can bet they'll hire more nurses' aides, who will work cheaper. And if they can, they won't have full-time employees because then they have to pay benefits. That's what the game is now: cheap labor and no pensions or benefits vs. huge salaries plus golden parachutes for CEOs, even CEOs who screw up in their jobs.

A lot of kids with college degrees are doing telemarketing or waiting tables today. Their life is not easier than their parents' or grandparents'. I'm older than you are and my life has not been easier than my parents' or grandparents', either.

I foresee hard times for future generations in corporate-ruled America. I'd leave this country in a minute if I could. The military-industrial complex is out of control and the ruling class wants to eliminate the middle class.

You are apparently unaware that there are thousands of permanently unemployed people in this country, people whose unemployment benefits ran out years ago and who have never been able to find another job. The older you get, the less likely you are to be hired. Thousands of people become homeless every year -- I should say every month -- and remain homeless for years. Thousands have no medical insurance and no money for medical care. Bill Clinton ended "welfare as we know it" and Bush has slashed away more and more at worthwhile programs. If your husband left you, you might find out that even as a nurse you'd have a hard time making it alone, especially if you have children. You sound an awful lot like a Republican in your posts here. "Everything is just peachy keen in the USA and anyone who says otherwise is just lazy."

You actually said "There's almost no excuse for not doing so" (getting the kind of life one wants.) You really need to get out more and meet some people who are not as privileged as you.
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  -How the hell are we supposed to take our Dem Party BACK? (A RANT) StudentsMustUniteNow  Jun-17-07 01:53 PM   #0 
  - hey i work on GOTV....speak for yourself.......  Gato Moteado   Jun-17-07 02:04 PM   #1 
  - Money has ALWAYS driven politics and our Gov't.  napi21   Jun-17-07 02:05 PM   #2 
  - Kucinich has also pledged to break up the Media Monopolies....  bvar22   Jun-17-07 09:14 PM   #45 
  - Another one figures it out. :)  Ladyhawk   Jun-17-07 02:16 PM   #3 
  - sometimes i feel that way  Gato Moteado   Jun-17-07 02:55 PM   #10 
     - I was a little slow on the uptake.  Ladyhawk   Jun-17-07 03:17 PM   #13 
        - It seems it really is just a dog and pony show  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-17-07 03:24 PM   #14 
           - I don't know how long we'll be tolerated.  Ladyhawk   Jun-17-07 03:28 PM   #15 
  - Suppressing the vote  sandnsea   Jun-17-07 02:17 PM   #4 
  - How am I "suppressing" the vote? n/t  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-17-07 02:39 PM   #6 
     - see what i mean?  Gato Moteado   Jun-17-07 02:52 PM   #8 
        - Yep  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-17-07 03:02 PM   #11 
  - I think you can really create change  roody   Jun-17-07 02:38 PM   #5 
  - The greatest impact that a person or small group of persons can have is on the local level.  elocs   Jun-17-07 02:44 PM   #7 
     - i think the OP realizes that change doesn't happen from the pres down....  Gato Moteado   Jun-17-07 02:54 PM   #9 
     - And once in a while YOU WIN!  roody   Jun-17-07 05:31 PM   #36 
  - K&R  frebrd   Jun-17-07 03:03 PM   #12 
  - There's a lot of truth in what you've posted...  polichick   Jun-17-07 03:52 PM   #16 
  - My favorite part:  wienerdoggie   Jun-17-07 03:57 PM   #17 
  - I'd rather have a solid union job at a plant, than two part-times at Walmart and BestBuy n/t  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-17-07 04:01 PM   #19 
  - Are you a college student? Are you planning to get a union plant job,  wienerdoggie   Jun-17-07 04:14 PM   #24 
     - Not to be patronizing but...  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-17-07 04:26 PM   #26 
        - Post a thread, spout opinions, and then ask me not to comment? Why?  wienerdoggie   Jun-17-07 04:35 PM   #29 
           - Because you're not paying attention to what I'm saying  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-17-07 04:43 PM   #31 
              - "Do not respond to this"--that free speech is a bitch, no?  wienerdoggie   Jun-17-07 05:13 PM   #33 
  - Oh, and life isn't easier now  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-17-07 04:02 PM   #20 
  - Debt--the American way. So we can have new cars and live in suburban subdivisions,  wienerdoggie   Jun-17-07 04:23 PM   #25 
  - My 37 year-old daughter has a more realistic worldview than you do.  DemBones DemBones   Jun-17-07 04:35 PM   #30 
  - What do you expect from someone who thinks the war on drugs is just great  Wiley50   Jun-17-07 09:14 PM   #46 
     - I'm really tempted to you use the ignore button on wienerdog  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-17-07 09:47 PM   #47 
  - You can't really protect yourself against outsourcing.  LBJDemocrat   Jun-17-07 10:19 PM   #48 
     - I am against outsourcing--to me it is the ultimate "fuck you" of corporations  wienerdoggie   Jun-17-07 10:52 PM   #50 
     - OK, you really are delusional...  Solon   Jun-18-07 01:45 AM   #55 
        - Thank you.  ellisonz   Jun-18-07 06:37 AM   #59 
        - Infectious disease--do we have still have kids in iron lungs? Last  wienerdoggie   Jun-18-07 10:07 AM   #64 
     - No jobs out there.  Perragrande   Jun-18-07 02:13 AM   #57 
        - Three Words: Richard Milhous Nixon  ellisonz   Jun-18-07 06:55 AM   #60 
  - It is hopeless to demand that somebody else put you on ignore.  Warren Stupidity   Jun-17-07 07:31 PM   #39 
  - You don't remember the Fifties and most of the Sixties, when one income  DemBones DemBones   Jun-17-07 04:28 PM   #27 
  - "Priveleged"? Are you serious? Did you miss the part of my post  wienerdoggie   Jun-17-07 04:58 PM   #32 
  - Best post I've read all week.  bling bling   Jun-17-07 11:47 PM   #51 
     - Thanks, fellow Obama supporter!  wienerdoggie   Jun-18-07 12:50 AM   #54 
  - Throw Diebold/ES&S election theft machines into 'Boston Harbor' NOW!  Peace Patriot   Jun-17-07 04:01 PM   #18 
  - Gore is not a babe in woods either. he was a pol for many years. sorry.  illinoisprogressive   Jun-17-07 04:03 PM   #21 
  - No need to apologize  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-17-07 04:13 PM   #23 
  - Buy it.  bunnies   Jun-17-07 04:05 PM   #22 
  - you're not.  ulysses   Jun-17-07 04:31 PM   #28 
  - Cynical, defeatist, BS.  Odin2005   Jun-17-07 05:19 PM   #34 
  - I second that rational conclusion.  ellisonz   Jun-18-07 06:57 AM   #61 
  - Back? When did you have it.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jun-17-07 05:27 PM   #35 
  - Explain The Great Society then n/t  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-17-07 06:15 PM   #37 
  - what is there to explain? You're taking a period in Dem history of massive social programs...  wyldwolf   Jun-17-07 08:42 PM   #43 
  - The new deal reform era was vastly more left wing than now.  Warren Stupidity   Jun-17-07 07:40 PM   #40 
  - Can I shake your hand?  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-17-07 07:52 PM   #41 
  - only the aspect of the New Deal  wyldwolf   Jun-17-07 08:47 PM   #44 
  - you're absolutely correct  wyldwolf   Jun-17-07 08:38 PM   #42 
  - I think the 1970's is to a certain extent this era  Hippo_Tron   Jun-18-07 12:08 AM   #52 
     - Yes, a brief period in the 70s, though not that liberal at all - let's compare the 70s to pre-70s  wyldwolf   Jun-18-07 05:02 AM   #58 
        - The right wing also got more organized during the 70's  Hippo_Tron   Jun-18-07 11:21 AM   #65 
           - true, but the Democrats had a solid hold on Congress the entire decade  wyldwolf   Jun-18-07 12:10 PM   #67 
           - I've heard of that book, very tempted to order it now  Hippo_Tron   Jun-18-07 12:28 PM   #69 
              - The book I referenced suggested a Southern Strategy.  wyldwolf   Jun-18-07 12:38 PM   #72 
           - serious drug penalties predated Reagan  onenote   Jun-18-07 12:13 PM   #68 
              - Were those laws seriously enforced?  Hippo_Tron   Jun-18-07 12:31 PM   #70 
  - Overall, I believe Barack is cleaner than Hillary  election_2004   Jun-17-07 06:19 PM   #38 
  - K&R  bvar22   Jun-17-07 10:49 PM   #49 
  - You can't.  jmp   Jun-18-07 12:14 AM   #53 
  - There are many on this board  Le Taz Hot   Jun-18-07 01:58 AM   #56 
  - I have one wikipedia link that disproves the entire premise of this thread:  ellisonz   Jun-18-07 07:01 AM   #62 
  - rec'd....  mike_c   Jun-18-07 09:22 AM   #63 
  - Bottom line: "It's the corporations who set the agenda" - but I would  Zorra   Jun-18-07 12:00 PM   #66 
  - .  sadiesworld   Jun-18-07 12:35 PM   #71 
  - Besides the corporate control argument  PATRICK   Jun-18-07 03:54 PM   #73 

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