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Mon Jun-18-07 12:18 PM
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| 54. Wow so Joe Conason is ripping off Ariana Bermanington now (nt) |
| -Must read from Salon's Joe Conason: Hillary Clinton's Labor Problem |
flpoljunkie |
Jun-16-07 10:04 AM |
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First the Nation - now Salon - resort to crap about a pollester joining a company 18 months ago as |
papau |
Jun-16-07 10:30 AM |
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The fact that Joe Conason is writing this means something. He is not a Clinton basher. |
flpoljunkie |
Jun-16-07 11:03 AM |
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I suspect the un-named union source are the anti-Hillary folks - but until the Nation egged them |
papau |
Jun-16-07 12:03 PM |
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Is it possible for any Clinton supporter to answe a question... |
jackbourassa |
Jun-16-07 03:00 PM |
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More from the article on CEO Penn's firm's "labor relations" work... |
flpoljunkie |
Jun-16-07 03:48 PM |
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Penn has been known as a very anti-union, pro-war consultant for a long time |
MN Against Bush |
Jun-16-07 11:04 AM |
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I was told that and researched it - not one item came up that suggested Penn was anti-union n/t |
papau |
Jun-16-07 11:28 AM |
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Did you even read the OP? That certainly suggests Penn is anti-union. |
MN Against Bush |
Jun-16-07 12:04 PM |
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He is 18 months in a new job re activities that occurred at the contract renewal in 2003-your point? |
papau |
Jun-16-07 02:25 PM |
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The same kind of hacks who have no problem profiteering from NAFTA |
kenzee13 |
Jun-16-07 12:02 PM |
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Joe Conason is the author of "The Hunting of the President"-- about the Right Wing Conspiracy |
Totally Committed |
Jun-16-07 11:08 AM |
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The facts he hangs the story on are the two letters to the Clinton campaign - there does not |
papau |
Jun-16-07 12:07 PM |
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No, the fact he hangs the story on is the fact that Penn was CEO of a union-busting PR firm |
MN Against Bush |
Jun-16-07 12:13 PM |
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That's the way I read it, too. |
Totally Committed |
Jun-16-07 12:25 PM |
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Penn remains CEO - recused from all but Microsoft contract duties - 18 months as CEO and what "union |
papau |
Jun-16-07 12:36 PM |
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Conason's response on Burson-Marsteller CEO Penn's "recusal..." |
flpoljunkie |
Jun-16-07 01:30 PM |
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he loses any revenue from that account - as I said Conason thinks Karl Rove showed us how |
papau |
Jun-16-07 02:00 PM |
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Conason questions whether he loses revenue from the account. You have information otherwise? |
flpoljunkie |
Jun-16-07 03:40 PM |
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if you are for working families |
bedpanartist |
Jun-16-07 11:30 AM |
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I would kill myself before voting for another Clinton |
bedpanartist |
Jun-16-07 11:33 AM |
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and I am a non-union worker and I agree with you |
MissWaverly |
Jun-16-07 11:52 AM |
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The Clintons? |
LeFleur1 |
Jun-16-07 12:22 PM |
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Hillary was First Lady the same as Eleanor |
MissWaverly |
Jun-16-07 12:37 PM |
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he even advertised her as a 2 for 1 deal |
bedpanartist |
Jun-16-07 01:20 PM |
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yes, I believe that she had a major hand in setting policy |
MissWaverly |
Jun-16-07 01:36 PM |
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I have to say I agree with you. |
Totally Committed |
Jun-16-07 12:20 PM |
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Thanks TC |
Donna Zen |
Jun-16-07 09:58 PM |
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Lawyers think that they know everything, from purchasing and setting |
amandabeech |
Jun-16-07 12:34 PM |
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Sweeny, Stern, Hoffa, and Raynor aren't names? They are cited |
kenzee13 |
Jun-16-07 11:59 AM |
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She hired a polster and framer of issues that is a very strong Democrat. |
papau |
Jun-16-07 12:09 PM |
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She hired a pollster that wants Democrats to be more like Republicans n/t |
MN Against Bush |
Jun-16-07 12:19 PM |
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Bingo. Ain't THAT the truth! |
Totally Committed |
Jun-16-07 12:26 PM |
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What a great analysis - now Obama'a advisors favoring destroying Social Security means Obama wants |
papau |
Jun-16-07 12:46 PM |
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I'm not in either camp. I don't like Clinton at all, and I'm beginning to feel some disaffection |
Totally Committed |
Jun-16-07 01:35 PM |
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I support all our candidates - and my heros like Krugman and Conason on occasion can |
papau |
Jun-16-07 02:14 PM |
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The people a candidate has on their payroll are fair game... |
MN Against Bush |
Jun-16-07 01:42 PM |
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No one is saying Mark Penn is a hack - indeed he is one of the best - if not the best n/t |
papau |
Jun-16-07 02:27 PM |
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I am saying he is a hack... |
MN Against Bush |
Jun-16-07 05:28 PM |
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Penn was hired by Lieberman for President 2004 as its pollster/adviser- to frame and sell Lieberman' |
papau |
Jun-16-07 07:34 PM |
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well, he has to fit in with the rest of her organization |
Capn Sunshine |
Jun-16-07 07:38 PM |
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here is the Hoffa & Raynor letter (that references the Nation story) - the game |
papau |
Jun-16-07 12:16 PM |
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Conason is the soul |
disndat |
Jun-16-07 11:29 AM |
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I absolutely agree. |
Totally Committed |
Jun-16-07 12:28 PM |
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Indeed ... it's 'Clinton service' |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jun-16-07 12:44 PM |
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Thanks for posting this. Conason is a "straight shooter." |
jefferson_dem |
Jun-16-07 11:43 AM |
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I've always admired Conason's writing |
Tellurian |
Jun-16-07 11:48 AM |
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Anyone who "respects" union busting is no friend of Labor or any working |
kenzee13 |
Jun-16-07 12:07 PM |
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Any potential negotiation between two parties |
Tellurian |
Jun-16-07 01:57 PM |
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I'm afraid that I lack your faith in either |
kenzee13 |
Jun-16-07 02:37 PM |
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So, your problem is a Leap of Faith? |
Tellurian |
Jun-16-07 03:21 PM |
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This is logical |
Capn Sunshine |
Jun-16-07 07:44 PM |
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penn has been with the Clintons since 95. he was instrumental in making policy pro corporate |
illinoisprogressive |
Jun-16-07 10:10 PM |
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Conason: Even the lunchboxes at the DLC conferences display corporate logos |
flpoljunkie |
Jun-18-07 12:09 PM |
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Wow so Joe Conason is ripping off Ariana Bermanington now (nt) |
rinsd |
Jun-18-07 12:18 PM |
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