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46. More from the article on CEO Penn's firm's "labor relations" work...
Among the most controversial aspects of Penn's firm's business, from the liberal perspective at least, come under the category of "labor relations," a traditional euphemism for suppressing workers and thwarting their right to organize. ]Before Penn scrubbed his firm's Web site, it advertised this specialty and noted the firm's capacity to confront "Organized Labor's coordinated campaigns whether they are in conjunction with organizing or contract negotiating." Not the most graceful wording, but the idea is clear enough.

And in practice, as Berman reported, Burson executives have used these skills against two major unions seeking to organize workers at Cintas, the nationwide uniform-supply company, which may be the single most ambitious union drive in North America today.

So here was a conflict of interest that seemed both direct and salient. Sen. Clinton is a declared supporter of labor rights who often tells workers that she is on their side. Besides, she badly wants the support of the Teamsters and UNITE HERE, the unions seeking to organize the Cintas employees, not to mention all the other labor organizations that might help her win the nomination and the presidency. But on the issue of workers rights, her top advisor has been on the other side.

Or has he? Penn said that he had nothing to do with the Cintas account, even though he is Burson's CEO. Moreover, he took offense at the implication that he might be anti-union. He recalled that his father had helped to organize the poultry workers union in Queens, N.Y., where he grew up. Unsurprisingly, his indignation and sentimentality did little to persuade union officials of his sincerity. They know very well that Penn is among the leading figures in the Democratic Leadership Council, whose budget is underwritten by major corporations and whose policies favor business over labor. Even the lunchboxes at DLC conferences display corporate logos. /
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  -Must read from Salon's Joe Conason: Hillary Clinton's Labor Problem flpoljunkie  Jun-16-07 10:04 AM   #0 
  - First the Nation - now Salon - resort to crap about a pollester joining a company 18 months ago as  papau   Jun-16-07 10:30 AM   #1 
  - The fact that Joe Conason is writing this means something. He is not a Clinton basher.  flpoljunkie   Jun-16-07 11:03 AM   #2 
  - I suspect the un-named union source are the anti-Hillary folks - but until the Nation egged them  papau   Jun-16-07 12:03 PM   #14 
  - Is it possible for any Clinton supporter to answe a question...  jackbourassa   Jun-16-07 03:00 PM   #43 
  - More from the article on CEO Penn's firm's "labor relations" work...  flpoljunkie   Jun-16-07 03:48 PM   #46 
  - Penn has been known as a very anti-union, pro-war consultant for a long time  MN Against Bush   Jun-16-07 11:04 AM   #3 
  - I was told that and researched it - not one item came up that suggested Penn was anti-union n/t  papau   Jun-16-07 11:28 AM   #5 
  - Did you even read the OP? That certainly suggests Penn is anti-union.  MN Against Bush   Jun-16-07 12:04 PM   #15 
     - He is 18 months in a new job re activities that occurred at the contract renewal in 2003-your point?  papau   Jun-16-07 02:25 PM   #40 
  - The same kind of hacks who have no problem profiteering from NAFTA  kenzee13   Jun-16-07 12:02 PM   #13 
  - Joe Conason is the author of "The Hunting of the President"-- about the Right Wing Conspiracy  Totally Committed   Jun-16-07 11:08 AM   #4 
  - The facts he hangs the story on are the two letters to the Clinton campaign - there does not  papau   Jun-16-07 12:07 PM   #17 
     - No, the fact he hangs the story on is the fact that Penn was CEO of a union-busting PR firm  MN Against Bush   Jun-16-07 12:13 PM   #19 
        - That's the way I read it, too.  Totally Committed   Jun-16-07 12:25 PM   #24 
        - Penn remains CEO - recused from all but Microsoft contract duties - 18 months as CEO and what "union  papau   Jun-16-07 12:36 PM   #28 
           - Conason's response on Burson-Marsteller CEO Penn's "recusal..."  flpoljunkie   Jun-16-07 01:30 PM   #33 
              - he loses any revenue from that account - as I said Conason thinks Karl Rove showed us how  papau   Jun-16-07 02:00 PM   #38 
                 - Conason questions whether he loses revenue from the account. You have information otherwise?  flpoljunkie   Jun-16-07 03:40 PM   #45 
  - if you are for working families  bedpanartist   Jun-16-07 11:30 AM   #7 
  - I would kill myself before voting for another Clinton  bedpanartist   Jun-16-07 11:33 AM   #8 
  - and I am a non-union worker and I agree with you  MissWaverly   Jun-16-07 11:52 AM   #11 
  - The Clintons?  LeFleur1   Jun-16-07 12:22 PM   #23 
     - Hillary was First Lady the same as Eleanor  MissWaverly   Jun-16-07 12:37 PM   #29 
        - he even advertised her as a 2 for 1 deal  bedpanartist   Jun-16-07 01:20 PM   #32 
           - yes, I believe that she had a major hand in setting policy  MissWaverly   Jun-16-07 01:36 PM   #35 
  - I have to say I agree with you.  Totally Committed   Jun-16-07 12:20 PM   #22 
  - Thanks TC  Donna Zen   Jun-16-07 09:58 PM   #51 
  - Lawyers think that they know everything, from purchasing and setting  amandabeech   Jun-16-07 12:34 PM   #27 
  - Sweeny, Stern, Hoffa, and Raynor aren't names? They are cited  kenzee13   Jun-16-07 11:59 AM   #12 
     - She hired a polster and framer of issues that is a very strong Democrat.  papau   Jun-16-07 12:09 PM   #18 
     - She hired a pollster that wants Democrats to be more like Republicans n/t  MN Against Bush   Jun-16-07 12:19 PM   #21 
        - Bingo. Ain't THAT the truth!  Totally Committed   Jun-16-07 12:26 PM   #25 
        - What a great analysis - now Obama'a advisors favoring destroying Social Security means Obama wants  papau   Jun-16-07 12:46 PM   #31 
        - I'm not in either camp. I don't like Clinton at all, and I'm beginning to feel some disaffection  Totally Committed   Jun-16-07 01:35 PM   #34 
        - I support all our candidates - and my heros like Krugman and Conason on occasion can  papau   Jun-16-07 02:14 PM   #39 
        - The people a candidate has on their payroll are fair game...  MN Against Bush   Jun-16-07 01:42 PM   #36 
           - No one is saying Mark Penn is a hack - indeed he is one of the best - if not the best n/t  papau   Jun-16-07 02:27 PM   #41 
              - I am saying he is a hack...  MN Against Bush   Jun-16-07 05:28 PM   #47 
                 - Penn was hired by Lieberman for President 2004 as its pollster/adviser- to frame and sell Lieberman'  papau   Jun-16-07 07:34 PM   #48 
        - well, he has to fit in with the rest of her organization  Capn Sunshine   Jun-16-07 07:38 PM   #49 
     - here is the Hoffa & Raynor letter (that references the Nation story) - the game  papau   Jun-16-07 12:16 PM   #20 
  - Conason is the soul  disndat   Jun-16-07 11:29 AM   #6 
  - I absolutely agree.  Totally Committed   Jun-16-07 12:28 PM   #26 
  - Indeed ... it's 'Clinton service'  Fredda Weinberg   Jun-16-07 12:44 PM   #30 
  - Thanks for posting this. Conason is a "straight shooter."  jefferson_dem   Jun-16-07 11:43 AM   #9 
  - I've always admired Conason's writing  Tellurian   Jun-16-07 11:48 AM   #10 
  - Anyone who "respects" union busting is no friend of Labor or any working  kenzee13   Jun-16-07 12:07 PM   #16 
     - Any potential negotiation between two parties  Tellurian   Jun-16-07 01:57 PM   #37 
        - I'm afraid that I lack your faith in either  kenzee13   Jun-16-07 02:37 PM   #42 
           - So, your problem is a Leap of Faith?  Tellurian   Jun-16-07 03:21 PM   #44 
              - This is logical  Capn Sunshine   Jun-16-07 07:44 PM   #50 
  - penn has been with the Clintons since 95. he was instrumental in making policy pro corporate  illinoisprogressive   Jun-16-07 10:10 PM   #52 
  - Conason: Even the lunchboxes at the DLC conferences display corporate logos  flpoljunkie   Jun-18-07 12:09 PM   #53 
  - Wow so Joe Conason is ripping off Ariana Bermanington now (nt)  rinsd   Jun-18-07 12:18 PM   #54 

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