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114. no, the ones who need to go back to school are the ones who haven't figured out that the rest of us
can actually read, and didn't say ANYTHING about obama supporting a pardon. do, please, try to get your facts correct.
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  -Obama's General Counsel urges Libby Pardon? Huh??? KoKo01  Jun-13-07 01:58 PM   #0 
  - First, Obama started consulting Colin Powell, now, this....nt  MookieWilson   Jun-13-07 01:59 PM   #1 
  - obama lost all his credibility with me when he started consulting powell.  niyad   Jun-13-07 02:06 PM   #6 
  - If that's true, you were not really supporting Obama to begin with.  ShortnFiery   Jun-13-07 02:43 PM   #31 
     - how nice of you to tell me what I am thinking. guess what? colin powell is a liar, and a fraud (do  niyad   Jun-13-07 03:01 PM   #46 
     - I never said that Colin Powell is not morally challenged, only that it does not rub off ...  ShortnFiery   Jun-13-07 03:26 PM   #60 
        - powell is MORE than "morally challenged" --he is an unrepentant FRAUD--I heard him the other day,  niyad   Jun-13-07 03:36 PM   #64 
           - Let me guess, you find no redeeming qualities in Colin Powell?  ShortnFiery   Jun-13-07 03:46 PM   #71 
           - gee, how did you guess? and by the way, I have no "loyalty" to ANY candidate-- what a bizarre term-  niyad   Jun-13-07 03:49 PM   #73 
              - Forgive me, I'm married to a Retired Marine - we celebrated our 25th Wedding Anniversary Monday.  ShortnFiery   Jun-13-07 03:54 PM   #77 
                 - and what exactly DOES "loyalty": mean to you???? the fact that you are married to a retired marine  niyad   Jun-13-07 03:58 PM   #78 
                    - No, *loyalty* to country or spouse would not extend to lying or cover up. But IMO, you're too harsh  ShortnFiery   Jun-13-07 04:04 PM   #83 
                    - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Jun-13-07 05:51 PM   #123 
                    - It appears to me you do not know anything about the Military  Kingstree   Jun-13-07 04:09 PM   #90 
                       - it appears to me that you haven't the slightest clue about me, and your remark tells me everything I  niyad   Jun-13-07 04:40 PM   #112 
           - Then we can say you never had  Kingstree   Jun-13-07 04:07 PM   #86 
              - do me a favour and do some remedial english comprehension--a subject at which you obviously failed.  niyad   Jun-13-07 04:46 PM   #115 
     - let's see, powell the liar, who DIDN'T say he was a liar at the UN, is okay, because he appears  niyad   Jun-13-07 03:53 PM   #76 
  - Oh no- Obama has hired many Bush consultants on his team..  Tellurian   Jun-13-07 05:46 PM   #121 
     - My belief is that he is a cypher, a triangulator.  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Jun-13-07 06:21 PM   #128 
     - No, Obama is a Neoconic shill!  Tellurian   Jun-13-07 06:44 PM   #138 
     - Only, I'm afraid if Hillary can't cut the mustard. She's sufficiently  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Jun-14-07 03:25 PM   #187 
        - Nah, your hyper-imposing  Tellurian   Jun-14-07 03:40 PM   #192 
     - He has to be a triangulator in order to achieve "unity"  draft_mario_cuomo   Jun-13-07 07:57 PM   #147 
        - Precisely.  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Jun-14-07 03:22 PM   #186 
     - If you think Powell is indebted to the neocons in office,  ripple   Jun-13-07 09:40 PM   #151 
     - Oh, do tell. Who exactly are all the other Bush consultants on his team. And Hillary is the epitome  cryingshame   Jun-14-07 07:43 AM   #169 
     - Obama's campaign is strategized by Republicans..  Tellurian   Jun-14-07 10:37 AM   #177 
        - I read your whole post. Ridiculous. Your post, that is. n/t  bling bling   Jun-14-07 12:36 PM   #182 
           - Try to be objective...and refute it and I'll respect you for that..  Tellurian   Jun-14-07 03:26 PM   #188 
     - Don't forget who Obama chose as his mentor  ArkySue   Jun-14-07 03:11 PM   #185 
  - This ought to be good!  William769   Jun-13-07 02:02 PM   #2 
  - Filed under "Grasping at Straws" for political favor. n/t  ShortnFiery   Jun-13-07 02:03 PM   #3 
  - ...  William769   Jun-13-07 02:07 PM   #8 
  - Yes, I've seen you in the "HRC is our true Goddess" - love-her OR ELSE! threads.  ShortnFiery   Jun-13-07 02:14 PM   #10 
     - I don't try to hide my MO like some people.  William769   Jun-13-07 02:18 PM   #14 
        - And that - our straightforward nature - is one thing that we do have in common.  ShortnFiery   Jun-13-07 02:32 PM   #24 
        - Yes we do.  William769   Jun-13-07 02:37 PM   #25 
           - Why is that?  MGKrebs   Jun-13-07 04:21 PM   #106 
        - while you are at it you are trying to Slander Obama in the  Kingstree   Jun-13-07 04:08 PM   #88 
           - Please show me where I have slandered him.  William769   Jun-13-07 05:34 PM   #120 
  - More like you're "gasping at straws"..  Tellurian   Jun-13-07 06:10 PM   #125 
  - When Obama first went to DC, didn't he meet with repubs that were trying to woo him?  woodsprite   Jun-13-07 02:05 PM   #4 
  - Show us THE LINK? Otherwise it's hearsay.  ShortnFiery   Jun-13-07 02:17 PM   #12 
  - You read the first few pages of his book  ripple   Jun-13-07 09:49 PM   #152 
  - I see what Bauer is getting at but this was not tactically smart  rinsd   Jun-13-07 02:05 PM   #5 
  - Me too. In the senate, all decisions are a product of bargaining, but I still...  MookieWilson   Jun-13-07 02:23 PM   #18 
  - Candidate of CHANGE? REALLY?  Donnachaidh   Jun-13-07 02:06 PM   #7 
  - So one data point and you jump ship. Wow, what an superficial analyais.  ShortnFiery   Jun-13-07 02:15 PM   #11 
  - uhh no dear, not at all  Donnachaidh   Jun-13-07 02:17 PM   #13 
  - there are going to be alot of people with that same analysis....  BringBigDogBack   Jun-13-07 02:21 PM   #16 
  - I guess you have the link to where Obama said he wants to pardon Libby...  zulchzulu   Jun-13-07 02:25 PM   #20 
     - Excellent point zulchzula ... they are truly grasping at straws.  ShortnFiery   Jun-13-07 02:28 PM   #22 
     - show us where anybody is saying obama wants to pardon libby? the title of this thread CLEARLY  niyad   Jun-13-07 04:51 PM   #117 
        - Hell, his counsel didn't even appeal for his pardon.  Buck Rabbit   Jun-13-07 06:45 PM   #139 
  - LOL!  wyldwolf   Jun-13-07 02:10 PM   #9 
  - too much, ain't it?  Jim4Wes   Jun-13-07 03:41 PM   #70 
  - I see this as another sign of the inevitable.  dogfacedboy   Jun-13-07 02:19 PM   #15 
  - There's only room for dead animals in the middle, either 1) pro-people or 2) pro-corporations.  ShortnFiery   Jun-13-07 02:31 PM   #23 
     - Spectators sit on the left and the right. The game is played in the middle  wyldwolf   Jun-13-07 02:45 PM   #34 
     - Nope, the middle is filled with cotton candy. Negotiations among Both Left and Right oriented ...  ShortnFiery   Jun-13-07 02:55 PM   #42 
        - Your post is a contradiction  wyldwolf   Jun-13-07 03:34 PM   #63 
           - OMG I can't be that special ... the Lefty 2 percent? Too cool! n/t  ShortnFiery   Jun-13-07 04:14 PM   #99 
              - you're not. that's why you're 2%  wyldwolf   Jun-13-07 06:38 PM   #133 
              - Funny how Kerry got that landslide vote on a Rooseveltian  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Jun-14-07 03:35 PM   #191 
     - Bullshit.  dogfacedboy   Jun-13-07 04:03 PM   #82 
     - Centrists = Status Quo: Maintaining the Status Quo is truly BULLSHIT! n/t  ShortnFiery   Jun-13-07 04:16 PM   #101 
        - How do Centrists want to maintain the status quo?  dogfacedboy   Jun-13-07 04:53 PM   #118 
           - Your desires are just fine.  Usrename   Jun-13-07 06:41 PM   #135 
           - Well, what would your business model be?  dogfacedboy   Jun-14-07 08:20 AM   #170 
           - Your desires are "LEFT of Center" ... no doubt, but also in line with the Average American. n/t  ShortnFiery   Jun-14-07 12:44 PM   #183 
     - ... in a nutshell.  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Jun-14-07 03:27 PM   #189 
  - Not sure how much this has to do with the campaign, but  MGKrebs   Jun-13-07 02:21 PM   #17 
  - Yes, a remarkably naive and uninformed column by Bauer  gratuitous   Jun-13-07 02:49 PM   #37 
  - So is there a link where Obama said he wants to pardon Libby?  zulchzulu   Jun-13-07 02:23 PM   #19 
  - Good Point..... Why does Obama need a "General Counsel" though?  KoKo01   Jun-13-07 02:28 PM   #21 
  - Oh god so fucking what  sandnsea   Jun-13-07 02:42 PM   #30 
  - That is none of anyone's DAMN Business  Ethelk2044   Jun-13-07 06:25 PM   #129 
  - Oops. Never mind.  MGKrebs   Jun-13-07 02:39 PM   #27 
  - Here's a link to the full Bauer statement.  MGKrebs   Jun-13-07 02:41 PM   #29 
     - Finally, the unvarnished truth comes out. But is it too late? n/t  ShortnFiery   Jun-14-07 09:48 AM   #175 
  - No  sandnsea   Jun-13-07 02:40 PM   #28 
  - no, just as there was no link to Hillary wanting to bust up Unions because she hired Mark Penn  wyldwolf   Jun-13-07 02:43 PM   #32 
  - But bust up unions? Well, we just don't know for sure where HRC's loyalties lie because she  ShortnFiery   Jun-13-07 02:47 PM   #35 
     - we have six year senate record that is excellent on labor. As for Obama, he's the mystery.  wyldwolf   Jun-13-07 02:52 PM   #39 
        - Obama's 8 years in State Senate and 2.5 in Senate=more than HRC  zulchzulu   Jun-13-07 02:56 PM   #43 
           - Obama never had 8 years in Congress . . .  ElizabethDC   Jun-13-07 03:05 PM   #48 
           - Corrected...  zulchzulu   Jun-13-07 03:33 PM   #62 
           - He has more experience than Hillary  Kingstree   Jun-13-07 04:10 PM   #92 
              - More experience in elected office, yes  ElizabethDC   Jun-13-07 04:19 PM   #103 
           - That would be Legislature not Congress.  William769   Jun-13-07 03:09 PM   #51 
           - Corrected...  zulchzulu   Jun-13-07 03:38 PM   #67 
           - I'm discussing her Senate record in regards to labor. Funny, though...  wyldwolf   Jun-13-07 03:31 PM   #61 
              - Ah...nice namecalling....  zulchzulu   Jun-13-07 04:12 PM   #96 
                 - thank you.  wyldwolf   Jun-13-07 06:40 PM   #134 
                    - I won't stoop to your level  zulchzulu   Jun-14-07 08:57 AM   #171 
                       - You mean you won't do it in reply to that post.  wyldwolf   Jun-14-07 09:58 AM   #176 
  - can you read? the title says obama's COUNSEL--NOT obama. slight, but important, difference that  niyad   Jun-13-07 03:04 PM   #47 
  - I agree with you  Kingstree   Jun-13-07 04:11 PM   #93 
     - If Bauer did this without Obama's knowledge; he should be fired..  Tellurian   Jun-13-07 06:20 PM   #127 
        - This is a DAMN Lie  Ethelk2044   Jun-13-07 06:27 PM   #130 
           - Prove it otherwise!  Tellurian   Jun-13-07 06:43 PM   #137 
  - If Obama doesn't rebuke Bauer pronto, his campaign is effectively over  derby378   Jun-13-07 02:39 PM   #26 
  - Oh stop! They (Obama - Bauer) are NOT attached at the hip. Tempest in a teapot. :P n/t  ShortnFiery   Jun-13-07 02:44 PM   #33 
  - gotta agree  BringBigDogBack   Jun-13-07 02:47 PM   #36 
  - Did you see the reasoning behind Baer's "logic"?  zulchzulu   Jun-13-07 02:50 PM   #38 
  - If an Obama staffer kicks his dog, is Obama responsible for it?  zulchzulu   Jun-13-07 02:52 PM   #40 
  - .  BringBigDogBack   Jun-13-07 02:54 PM   #41 
  - Welcome to DU!  zulchzulu   Jun-13-07 03:09 PM   #50 
     - Thanks!  BringBigDogBack   Jun-13-07 03:12 PM   #56 
  - The question for some might be if the Counsel is a RW Libby Supporter  KoKo01   Jun-13-07 02:58 PM   #44 
  - This is BS dusting things up. It's wrong. Obama is NOT all his employees.  ShortnFiery   Jun-13-07 03:01 PM   #45 
  - Firstly, the Obama campaign didn't say this...Bauer did  Bullet1987   Jun-13-07 03:10 PM   #52 
  - flimsy argument from Bauer, and what is his public role right now?  venable   Jun-13-07 09:51 PM   #154 
  - gee, has it ever occurred to you that somebody can be upset with what a candidate's staffers say or  niyad   Jun-13-07 03:11 PM   #53 
  - So then it's safe to say when someone on Hillarys staff says something  William769   Jun-13-07 03:12 PM   #54 
     - excellent point, sir  AtomicKitten   Jun-13-07 03:13 PM   #57 
     - Then I'll take the answer to my question above, perhaps a qualified,  ShortnFiery   Jun-13-07 03:23 PM   #59 
        - a qualified yes  AtomicKitten   Jun-13-07 03:51 PM   #74 
     - As you can guess, it depends what it is that is said...  zulchzulu   Jun-13-07 03:22 PM   #58 
  - Read the article and THEN come back and refute his argument  zulchzulu   Jun-13-07 03:12 PM   #55 
  - Baer:All the views expressed in this post are those of the author and not of any client of his firm.  flpoljunkie   Jun-13-07 03:38 PM   #65 
     - the money point  AtomicKitten   Jun-13-07 03:59 PM   #79 
        - So, what does that mean? Obama's General Counsel is a GOP sympathizer?  Tellurian   Jun-13-07 06:28 PM   #131 
           - your point is not over my head  AtomicKitten   Jun-13-07 07:01 PM   #143 
              - really? Pot Kettle ring a bell?  Tellurian   Jun-13-07 09:25 PM   #149 
                 - I accept your apology.  AtomicKitten   Jun-13-07 10:37 PM   #158 
                    - .....  Tellurian   Jun-13-07 11:13 PM   #160 
  - They are are stating if any of us have Lawyers we need to ask  Ethelk2044   Jun-13-07 06:30 PM   #132 
  - KoKo01 is a Clinton supporter? I doubt it.  rinsd   Jun-13-07 04:02 PM   #81 
  - I'm a hold out for Gore.... just so folks know. n/t  KoKo01   Jun-13-07 04:07 PM   #87 
     - I thought so.  rinsd   Jun-13-07 04:09 PM   #89 
  - would you give this same leeway to another candidate  venable   Jun-13-07 09:50 PM   #153 
  - Obama opposed the invasion of Iraq from the get-go.  AtomicKitten   Jun-13-07 03:09 PM   #49 
  - but you have to admit the irony, AK, of the same folks defending Obama in this 6 degrees game...  wyldwolf   Jun-13-07 03:38 PM   #66 
  - the irony is thick  AtomicKitten   Jun-13-07 03:52 PM   #75 
     - I really hate it when you make sense AK  ShortnFiery   Jun-13-07 04:13 PM   #97 
        - just between you and me ;)  AtomicKitten   Jun-13-07 04:21 PM   #105 
  - Well put! "6-degrees of separation from Obama BS"  flpoljunkie   Jun-13-07 03:40 PM   #69 
  - Someone sit him down and then slap him (a friendly slap).  Jim4Wes   Jun-13-07 03:39 PM   #68 
  - *  AtomicKitten   Jun-13-07 04:22 PM   #107 
  - It is a dare -- a shot across the bow -- acknowledging that a pardon is an  Supersedeas   Jun-13-07 03:48 PM   #72 
  - Bush would then "own" Libby's pardon for all time. Fitzgerald is hoping Libby will turn on  flpoljunkie   Jun-13-07 04:00 PM   #80 
     - opinion on this is diverse  AtomicKitten   Jun-13-07 04:06 PM   #85 
  - Did it Say Obama Supported it  Kingstree   Jun-13-07 04:04 PM   #84 
  - Obama supports it by proxy  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-13-07 04:11 PM   #94 
  - I heard some Obama staffer cussed at a traffic cop last Thursday  zulchzulu   Jun-13-07 04:14 PM   #98 
  - Grasping at straws  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-13-07 04:16 PM   #102 
     - Yes, indeed!  zulchzulu   Jun-13-07 04:20 PM   #104 
        - Hahahaha if you say so n/t  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-13-07 04:22 PM   #108 
           - When you try to smear someone  Kingstree   Jun-13-07 04:25 PM   #109 
  - right.  BringBigDogBack   Jun-13-07 09:32 PM   #150 
  - no, the ones who need to go back to school are the ones who haven't figured out that the rest of us  niyad   Jun-13-07 04:43 PM   #114 
  - Obama doesn't have any political credibility besides his "authenticity"  StudentsMustUniteNow   Jun-13-07 04:10 PM   #91 
  - ==he seems to be obsessed with "reaching across the aisles."==  draft_mario_cuomo   Jun-13-07 08:07 PM   #148 
  - Please Provide Link Where Obama said he wants to Pardon Libby  Kingstree   Jun-13-07 04:11 PM   #95 
  - Here...  zulchzulu   Jun-13-07 04:14 PM   #100 
  - please provide link where anybody says OBAMA wants to pardon libby-- the title of this thread  niyad   Jun-13-07 04:49 PM   #116 
     - My Post Subject Line.....Clearly Stated: Obama's General Counsel...not Obama....  KoKo01   Jun-13-07 06:56 PM   #141 
  - Obama does not support this Position  Kingstree   Jun-13-07 04:26 PM   #110 
  - Obama DOES NOT SUPPORT Libby pardon  zulchzulu   Jun-13-07 04:35 PM   #111 
  - You are exactly right!  Totally Committed   Jun-13-07 04:40 PM   #113 
  - Thank you, zulchzulu!  No Surrender   Jun-13-07 06:07 PM   #124 
  - dude, you cut off their legs  AtomicKitten   Jun-13-07 06:13 PM   #126 
  - Ha- he cutoff his own legs...  Tellurian   Jun-13-07 06:41 PM   # 
     - the point is this, in fact, is not Obama's POV  AtomicKitten   Jun-13-07 06:56 PM   #140 
     - Actually, you really don't know that for sure..you weren't there..  Tellurian   Jun-13-07 07:44 PM   #145 
        - he released a statement on policy re: this issue  AtomicKitten   Jun-13-07 10:36 PM   #157 
           - Link please-  Tellurian   Jun-13-07 10:46 PM   #159 
     - "...Republican shill he's supporting!"  zulchzulu   Jun-13-07 11:26 PM   #162 
  - First he was "tepid" then he issues a full statement about Libby pardon....  KoKo01   Jun-13-07 06:59 PM   #142 
     - Should Obama release a statement firmly saying he doesn't squash little puppies?  zulchzulu   Jun-13-07 11:31 PM   #163 
     - "Senator Obama opposes a pardon and strongly believes that Libby  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Jun-14-07 04:23 PM   #197 
  - 2008: "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss." UNLESS  DemBones DemBones   Jun-13-07 05:31 PM   #119 
  - This excerpt  jenmarie   Jun-13-07 05:46 PM   #122 
  - What Crap, He didn't urge a pardon.  Buck Rabbit   Jun-13-07 06:41 PM   #136 
  - Who really cares whether Libby is Pardoned or Not? Most folks think he will get a pardon  KoKo01   Jun-13-07 07:04 PM   #144 
     - EVERY candidate's team looks at the ramifications of political decisions  ripple   Jun-13-07 10:00 PM   #155 
  - this is not good. wonder if BO slap this guy upside the head yet. lol  illinoisprogressive   Jun-13-07 07:48 PM   #146 
  - This is exactly the type of stuff with Obama that I've been warning about.  w4rma   Jun-13-07 10:16 PM   #156 
  - Two things, bubba  zulchzulu   Jun-13-07 11:24 PM   #161 
  - Obama and Hillary tacitly supported the IWR-2007.  w4rma   Jun-14-07 01:57 AM   #167 
     - Free pass for Johnny?  zulchzulu   Jun-14-07 05:49 AM   #168 
     - I'm sorry, but didn't Edwards vote for the start of the IWR?  TeamJordan23   Jun-14-07 09:32 AM   #173 
        - He CO-SPONSORED the IWR, to be exact n/t  ripple   Jun-14-07 12:03 PM   #180 
  - Didn't Edwards hire anti-Catholic Bloggers, did that make him anti-catholic  TeamJordan23   Jun-14-07 12:18 AM   #164 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-14-07 01:04 AM   #165 
  - People who are criticizing Obama for this clearly do not care about uniting the country  TeamJordan23   Jun-14-07 01:10 AM   #166 
  - We do want to unite the country..just not with Obama...  Tellurian   Jun-14-07 11:49 AM   #179 
  - If you sup with the devil, you need a long spoon. Scripture says it  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Jun-14-07 04:30 PM   #199 
  - It always behooves the attacker (you) to read the thread first..  Tellurian   Jun-14-07 11:10 AM   #178 
     - Nice Dodge!...Now show me specific examples of Obama wanting war for 8 more years!  TeamJordan23   Jun-14-07 12:34 PM   #181 
        - Google is your friend..  Tellurian   Jun-14-07 02:50 PM   #184 
           - Haha....Just Proves Tellurian Has No Credibility  TeamJordan23   Jun-14-07 03:40 PM   #193 
              - All it proves is how lazy you are!  Tellurian   Jun-14-07 03:43 PM   #194 
                 - I'm not the one spreading lies....backup your lies!  TeamJordan23   Jun-14-07 03:58 PM   #196 
                    - Call Obama..516-846-2200  Tellurian   Jun-14-07 04:27 PM   #198 
  - There's more to being an opponent ...  Everybody   Jun-14-07 09:26 AM   #172 
  - Yeah, make up sh*t to stir the political pot with garbage and disinformation.  ShortnFiery   Jun-14-07 09:39 AM   #174 
     - I agree - this thread has become pure FLAMEBAIT...  larissa   Jun-14-07 03:34 PM   #190 
        - Panic attack?!  Tellurian   Jun-14-07 03:45 PM   #195 
  - Locking  mvd   Jun-14-07 04:37 PM   #200 
 

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