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Thu Jun-07-07 06:55 PM
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| 75. I provided evidence, you ignore it. |
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First, I provided not only his speech to the HASC in September of 02, which you seem to want really badly to interpret in some way that goes against the words and spirit of the speech, but I provided another citation PROVING that Clark called for passage of the IWR the DAY BEFORE it was passed. If you have some evidence, ANY EVIDENCE ANYWHERE, that he told anyone not to vote for the IWR, POST IT. Or admit you are wrong.
As you said, I'm not holding my breath. I expect you will again restate how the evidence I posted is "just my opinion," and that you prefer to believe your position despite all evidence to the contrary.
I won't bother with your Hillary comments. You won't even read Clark's comments.
Once again, for giggles, in Clark's OWN WORDS: The United States diplomacy in the United Nations will be further strengthened if the Congress can adopt a resolution expressing US determination to act if the United Nations will not. The use of force must remain a US option under active consideration.... (snip) The more nearly unanimous the resolution, the greater its impact in the diplomatic efforts underway.
MAYBE the problem is that you misunderstand the IWR. Republicans began spinning the IWR as a "vote for war," and too many Democrats have been fooled by that meme, but that was not it's intention. Clark, like others, was FOR the IWR, and AGAINST the invasion.
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William769 |
Jun-05-07 09:48 PM |
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yeah, yeah, god help us. |
Tom Joad |
Jun-05-07 09:50 PM |
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Well god is helping us by giving us Hillary. So your prayers |
durrrty libby |
Jun-05-07 09:55 PM |
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Touche! |
William769 |
Jun-05-07 09:58 PM |
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... |
durrrty libby |
Jun-05-07 10:04 PM |
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I want peace, not four more years of support for pre-emptive war. |
Tom Joad |
Jun-05-07 10:03 PM |
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The only people going to be unhappy is you and a small crowd on DU. |
William769 |
Jun-05-07 10:05 PM |
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Sorry, but I don't want to lose the Presidency to the GOP in 2008 |
zulchzulu |
Jun-05-07 10:10 PM |
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I will I don't see you offering anything. |
William769 |
Jun-05-07 10:13 PM |
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No greater mobilizing force for the GOP... |
zulchzulu |
Jun-05-07 10:22 PM |
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Not to steal a line but |
William769 |
Jun-05-07 10:23 PM |
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There's plenty... |
zulchzulu |
Jun-05-07 10:28 PM |
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So what Democratic nominee won't have a GOP unifying force? |
William769 |
Jun-05-07 10:30 PM |
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I've personally met quite a few Republicans who would support Obama |
zulchzulu |
Jun-05-07 10:37 PM |
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I've personally met two lifelong Democrats who would vote for Giuliani over Obama |
ElizabethDC |
Jun-05-07 10:40 PM |
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I'd like to talk to them to see where their logic is... |
zulchzulu |
Jun-05-07 10:42 PM |
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I was really shocked when they told me |
ElizabethDC |
Jun-05-07 10:47 PM |
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I'm sorry, but I don't believe you. |
Dawgs |
Jun-06-07 07:42 AM |
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You don't believe me? |
ElizabethDC |
Jun-06-07 10:07 AM |
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I agree. |
zanne |
Jun-06-07 06:58 AM |
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Well, they've had two Clintons to run against before |
ElizabethDC |
Jun-05-07 10:24 PM |
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And apparently zulchzulu doesn't remember who Mrs. Clinton unseated either. |
William769 |
Jun-05-07 10:27 PM |
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Do you think desecrating the American flag should be a federal crime? |
zulchzulu |
Jun-05-07 10:30 PM |
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What does that have to do with the post you responded to? |
William769 |
Jun-05-07 10:33 PM |
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Entirely off topic . . . n/t |
ElizabethDC |
Jun-05-07 10:33 PM |
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It's about support for a candidate...right? |
zulchzulu |
Jun-05-07 10:40 PM |
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We were talking about electibility |
ElizabethDC |
Jun-05-07 10:43 PM |
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About the flag thang... |
zulchzulu |
Jun-05-07 11:11 PM |
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That's a pretty silly single-issue to decide on... |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-06-07 12:36 AM |
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Attacking the First Amendment is an absolute dealbreaker to me |
zulchzulu |
Jun-06-07 06:42 AM |
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I never understood |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-06-07 12:43 PM |
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If dissent is to be dealt with a shrug, then there is something wrong |
zulchzulu |
Jun-07-07 12:39 PM |
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per the wording of that bill, yes. |
wyldwolf |
Jun-06-07 05:58 AM |
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Mrs Clinton didn't unseat anybody (nt) |
Nederland |
Jun-05-07 11:18 PM |
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Who did she unseat? |
MonkeyFunk |
Jun-06-07 12:33 AM |
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Yeah, but Hillary is no Bill. |
Dawgs |
Jun-06-07 07:43 AM |
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Only Hillary can win |
The_Progressive |
Jun-05-07 10:45 PM |
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Welcome to DU |
durrrty libby |
Jun-06-07 05:29 AM |
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Thank you. |
The_Progressive |
Jun-06-07 05:52 AM |
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Well, they couldn't even spell Barack. |
Dawgs |
Jun-06-07 07:45 AM |
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And you can't spell dog. Haha...Seriously, most people |
durrrty libby |
Jun-06-07 08:35 AM |
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Any DUer that doesn't know his first fame shouldn't comment on who they think will win. |
Dawgs |
Jun-06-07 10:04 AM |
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Your Doggy logic is flawed. I can spell Barack but I support Hillary |
durrrty libby |
Jun-06-07 10:10 AM |
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Sorry about the mistake. |
The_Progressive |
Jun-06-07 10:02 PM |
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She will be the nominee and the world will sing Hallelujah |
durrrty libby |
Jun-05-07 10:07 PM |
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Fortunately, Hillary was not for a pre-emptive war. |
jobycom |
Jun-05-07 10:35 PM |
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I don't remember Hillary condemning the... |
mckeown1128 |
Jun-06-07 01:54 PM |
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Show me |
jobycom |
Jun-07-07 10:33 AM |
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Clark spoke to Congress OPPOSING the IWR..... |
earthlover |
Jun-06-07 09:32 PM |
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Wrong, wrong, wrong. This myth has to be destroyed. |
jobycom |
Jun-07-07 10:29 AM |
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If you read his entire statement to Congress, it does not recommend that the IWR be approved |
earthlover |
Jun-07-07 11:18 AM |
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If you read it, it does. In fact, I posted the evidence, and you pretend it is not there |
jobycom |
Jun-07-07 12:08 PM |
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you obviously read Clark's statement to Congress differently than I do.... |
earthlover |
Jun-07-07 02:07 PM |
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I provided evidence, you ignore it. |
jobycom |
Jun-07-07 06:55 PM |
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Clark supported the Levin amendment, not the IWR |
earthlover |
Jun-08-07 12:02 AM |
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more quotes from Clark in Congressional testimony.... |
earthlover |
Jun-08-07 07:48 AM |
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and more Dick Morris-style triangulation |
Adenoid_Hynkel |
Jun-05-07 10:30 PM |
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Thank you. |
emilyg |
Jun-06-07 12:14 AM |
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nicely said. thanks |
rodeodance |
Jun-06-07 07:14 AM |
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She really did better than the others. |
David Dunham |
Jun-05-07 09:50 PM |
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Oh, Canada - maybe she and Rudy can get together |
adigal |
Jun-05-07 09:51 PM |
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There was 37% unsure too... |
Bullet1987 |
Jun-05-07 09:53 PM |
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She will probably rehire Bolton and Wolfowitz. |
Tom Joad |
Jun-05-07 10:04 PM |
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Absolutely. I'm sure that will be her first act as president. |
ElizabethDC |
Jun-05-07 10:05 PM |
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She won't get that far. Never. |
Tom Joad |
Jun-05-07 10:24 PM |
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So when do you think she was going to hire Bolton and Wolfowitz? |
ElizabethDC |
Jun-05-07 10:28 PM |
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I feel sad for you being such a moran |
durrrty libby |
Jun-06-07 08:31 AM |
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So that it I'm voting Straight Republican! |
StClone |
Jun-05-07 10:02 PM |
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I'm Skeptical: How Does Richardson Have 8%? |
TeamJordan23 |
Jun-05-07 10:03 PM |
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424 respondents with a margin of error of 4.8% in the poll... |
zulchzulu |
Jun-05-07 10:07 PM |
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Well, it was only a statewide poll |
ElizabethDC |
Jun-05-07 10:19 PM |
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Tell me the genius behind a 4.8% MoE...I point that out no matter what the result... |
zulchzulu |
Jun-05-07 10:25 PM |
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Well, isn't MoE related to sampling size? |
ElizabethDC |
Jun-05-07 10:32 PM |
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It's very related to the sampling size and polling conditions |
zulchzulu |
Jun-05-07 11:05 PM |
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My dad thought she did well, and... |
Redneck Socialist |
Jun-05-07 10:34 PM |
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Bush has a surge. Hillary has a surge. |
IndianaGreen |
Jun-05-07 11:13 PM |
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She certainly took control of that debate. nt |
calteacherguy |
Jun-06-07 07:12 PM |
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Obama should drop out |
StudentsMustUniteNow |
Jun-07-07 12:27 PM |
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If Centrists were against 'stupid wars', nominate me a centrist than |
TeamJordan23 |
Jun-08-07 01:32 AM |
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Obama is not a centrist. |
AtomicKitten |
Jun-08-07 01:33 AM |
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