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Fri May-25-07 11:20 AM
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| 46. Surveyed = Dem primary voters. HUGE margin of error in this poll. |
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It appears that CBS polled a TOTAL of 1125 voters, then had to separate them into Repub. primary voters, Dem. primary voters, and independents and others. Interestingly, nearly all the items reported were for the subsamples, but CBS reported MOE only for the full sample, and the biggest influence on MOE in a random sample is the size of the sample.
So, we have to guess about the MOE for the numbers they and you in the OP reported.
Even if I made the most generous assumption that everyone leaning Democratic was considered a "Dem. primary voter" (and that would include a lot of people who are Dems. but not very interested in politics) the sample could not have been more than 350-400 voters. With a sample size that small, the MOE is probably in 6 percentage point range or higher. Further, because they had to oversample African Americans in order to get a reasonable sample size, then weight it afterward, those 350-400 voters represent an undersampling of non-African Americans voters. That wouldn't be much of a problem in a larger sample, but in a small one, it could make a big difference, since those non-African Americans may not have been very representative of the larger group of non-African Americans.
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| -CBS/NYT Poll: Hillary leads Obama by 22, Edwards by 32 |
SaveElmer |
May-24-07 06:05 PM |
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YAWWWNNN!!! |
Bullet1987 |
May-24-07 06:06 PM |
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Yeah I can see why you would say that...nt |
SaveElmer |
May-24-07 06:06 PM |
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All these polls are B.S. -- there's no way she's that far ahead |
LSparkle |
May-24-07 06:07 PM |
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I TOTALLY Agree With You... It's Media Spin & They've Been |
ChiciB1 |
May-25-07 12:16 PM |
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She will be a great president. Maybe the greatest |
durrrty libby |
May-24-07 06:07 PM |
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I agree she certainly has that potential!!!!...nt |
SaveElmer |
May-24-07 06:11 PM |
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Yes HRC will be the First woman president and one of the best..eom |
Brassballs |
May-24-07 06:30 PM |
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Indeed, and I look forward to her presidency. n/t |
ElizabethDC |
May-24-07 06:31 PM |
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Hillary is 3rd on my list, maybe 4th, she would have to step more left and |
ihelpu2see |
May-25-07 11:33 AM |
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Yeah, I'd be yawning too if I were you! n/t |
ElizabethDC |
May-24-07 06:06 PM |
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I know it must suck for you right now, but guess what? |
William769 |
May-24-07 06:26 PM |
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Gawd, the political elites are still trying to tell us "it's over" before ... |
ShortnFiery |
May-24-07 06:06 PM |
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Who said it's over? |
William769 |
May-24-07 06:27 PM |
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Hillary is on my new list |
Sukie1941 |
May-24-07 06:08 PM |
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Looks to me... |
SaveElmer |
May-24-07 06:10 PM |
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Any reason in particular? n/t |
ElizabethDC |
May-24-07 06:15 PM |
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Really? So if she is the nominee, you will stay home or |
durrrty libby |
May-24-07 06:15 PM |
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If Push Comes To SHOVE... I'll Vote For Her... But I WON'T Campaign |
ChiciB1 |
May-25-07 12:21 PM |
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She's the only one I won't vote for. |
Forkboy |
May-25-07 08:21 AM |
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Clinton took a third of Edwards support, it looks like |
WesDem |
May-24-07 06:09 PM |
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Its the highest I have seen her. |
rinsd |
May-24-07 06:13 PM |
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It may be my aging memory |
WesDem |
May-24-07 06:15 PM |
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Take a gander. Polls weren't that high until after several primaries |
rinsd |
May-24-07 06:27 PM |
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which is why it's BS... |
Bullet1987 |
May-24-07 06:28 PM |
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Yeah, you're right |
WesDem |
May-24-07 06:31 PM |
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Go "Hill and Bill" the "DYNAMIC DUO" because we need 2 president's to clean-up the Bush mess! nt |
laugle |
May-24-07 06:14 PM |
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Ditto for me! I'd also |
Auntie Bush |
May-25-07 12:35 PM |
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BULLSHIT there is no way in hell shes that far |
bigdarryl |
May-24-07 09:28 PM |
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She is still leading, but those numbers are ridiculous. |
Katzenkavalier |
May-24-07 09:30 PM |
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Probably not that far ahead...but it is the trend that is important... |
SaveElmer |
May-24-07 09:31 PM |
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Nobody jumps all those points for no damn reason...so I call BS. |
Bullet1987 |
May-24-07 09:38 PM |
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I can just see it... |
SaveElmer |
May-24-07 09:39 PM |
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November 2008 is one thing... |
Bullet1987 |
May-24-07 11:13 PM |
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Until Al declares. Then it's over. Period. |
fooj |
May-25-07 04:49 AM |
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i wonder if Hillary's increase has to do with Bill Clinton's being in public |
JI7 |
May-24-07 10:53 PM |
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It could |
WesDem |
May-25-07 06:33 AM |
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Like THIS public appearance? |
fooj |
May-25-07 11:04 AM |
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Political Wire writes today that name recognition unchanged since the race began |
illinoisprogressive |
May-24-07 11:08 PM |
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OK, but how's that whole IOWA thing going? |
BeyondGeography |
May-25-07 12:12 AM |
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No offense |
Indy_Dem_Defender |
May-25-07 12:29 AM |
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## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
DU GrovelBot |
May-25-07 12:29 AM |
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You might want to cross post this in the HILLARY FORUM. |
fooj |
May-25-07 04:34 AM |
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GDP is for discussion of the primaries and politics in general |
WesDem |
May-25-07 06:37 AM |
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Where did I say "polls" don't qualify? |
fooj |
May-25-07 11:02 AM |
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It sounded to me as if you were saying polls belong in candidates' forums |
WesDem |
May-25-07 11:08 AM |
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No worries. Just clarifying... |
fooj |
May-25-07 11:18 AM |
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Okay, thanks |
WesDem |
May-25-07 11:21 AM |
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I do a fair amount of grassroots stuff in the street and still haven't met one HRC fan |
zulchzulu |
May-25-07 06:43 AM |
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Agree. |
Dawgs |
May-25-07 07:17 AM |
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Favorite part of the story? The "satisfied with the contenders" numbers |
bunkerbuster1 |
May-25-07 08:31 AM |
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Surveyed = Dem primary voters. HUGE margin of error in this poll. |
spooky3 |
May-25-07 11:20 AM |
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Thank you, spooky |
WesDem |
May-25-07 11:25 AM |
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you're welcome, WesDem! |
spooky3 |
May-25-07 12:09 PM |
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I see the corporate robber barons have Hillary as their backup candidate |
Larkspur |
May-25-07 12:30 PM |
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