madfloridian
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Wed May-16-07 10:42 AM
Response to Reply #101 |
| 102. Madfloridian defends the orange hat folks and gets blasted. |
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While others who should know what she means about bringing up something from 3 years ago take part in it.
I think it would be very nice to just have a great pile on....send your friends along, MrsT.
Obama, he's the guy who said Howard Dean was using religion to divide our country. I wonder if he still agrees with that statement made earlier.
This thread is becoming a joke, really. It is a perfect example of how a campaign makes a mistake that is just as bad or worse really than the mistake they are trying to avoid....they insulted a whole group of people who did not deserve to be insulted.
And I am the bad guy. Hey, ok by me.
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| -Obama Taps Youth to Help Make White House Run (tries to avoid "Howard Dean" mistake) |
jefferson_dem |
May-14-07 05:11 PM |
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Anybody know more about that mistake? |
Captain Angry |
May-14-07 05:14 PM |
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They weren't Iowans and were treated as insulting outsiders |
Kagemusha |
May-14-07 05:16 PM |
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Thanks for the info. |
Captain Angry |
May-14-07 06:07 PM |
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They were good people with passion. |
madfloridian |
May-14-07 06:48 PM |
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I didn't see it as an insult |
tammywammy |
May-14-07 06:57 PM |
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Yes, it was meant as an insult. Mistakes were made...but there was passion. |
madfloridian |
May-14-07 06:59 PM |
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That's okay |
tammywammy |
May-14-07 07:00 PM |
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He was already off your list, I've read it several times |
Laurab |
May-14-07 09:51 PM |
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No, Obama was not off my list. |
madfloridian |
May-15-07 06:38 PM |
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I didn't either MF |
Capn Sunshine |
May-15-07 04:05 PM |
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Capn, I take pride in my sensitivity in a world filled with tough guys. |
madfloridian |
May-15-07 06:26 PM |
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I don't appreciate when you put me down for being sensitive. |
madfloridian |
May-15-07 06:31 PM |
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What insult? |
calteacherguy |
May-15-07 07:53 PM |
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You need your canvassers to be local, or at least "regional" |
MADem |
May-14-07 05:29 PM |
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Works for me, thanks. |
Captain Angry |
May-14-07 06:07 PM |
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The Beanie Brigade. |
indie_ana_500 |
May-15-07 04:40 PM |
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No matter what one feels about Dean....Obama's campaign just insulted a lot of sincere people. |
madfloridian |
May-14-07 06:34 PM |
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It was an innovative campaign....the Dean campaign. |
madfloridian |
May-14-07 06:40 PM |
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We all appreciate the passion but the fact remains the Dean 08 formula did not work. |
jefferson_dem |
May-14-07 07:32 PM |
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Well, that was really stupid of Obama, but I had forgotten that. |
madfloridian |
May-14-07 07:37 PM |
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Obama wants to turn this into a campaign he can WIN |
Laurab |
May-14-07 09:54 PM |
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Uh, Dean lost. |
Dawgs |
May-15-07 07:59 PM |
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I disagree |
Ethelk2044 |
May-14-07 06:42 PM |
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He called them "alien invaders." |
madfloridian |
May-14-07 06:44 PM |
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Throwing stones this early at good people who cared is not worthy. |
madfloridian |
May-14-07 06:46 PM |
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All they mean is that inspiration has to be applied intelligently. |
Kagemusha |
May-14-07 06:47 PM |
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Well, friend, now the Obama campaign is alien to me. |
madfloridian |
May-14-07 06:50 PM |
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And a lot of Iowa people did "get" it. |
madfloridian |
May-14-07 06:52 PM |
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I'm still giving him a chance. |
Kagemusha |
May-14-07 07:32 PM |
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I have never been critical of him at all, in fact until today I liked him. |
madfloridian |
May-14-07 07:35 PM |
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Maybe it is. That would be unfortunate if so. |
Kagemusha |
May-15-07 11:10 AM |
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He was speaking figuratively, of course. |
ripple |
May-15-07 02:47 PM |
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Obama is one smart cookie. |
AtomicKitten |
May-14-07 06:42 PM |
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It's high expectations for Obama.. |
Tellurian |
May-14-07 08:42 PM |
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I have never posted anything critical of Obama... |
madfloridian |
May-14-07 06:47 PM |
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I wouldn't worry. Fair critical assessing is fine. It's the trash talking that is annoying |
illinoisprogressive |
May-14-07 07:33 PM |
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No. You do NOT call people "alien invaders." |
madfloridian |
May-14-07 07:40 PM |
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Arent' you being a little sensitive about that? |
indie_ana_500 |
May-15-07 04:49 PM |
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No, I don't think I am over reacting. |
madfloridian |
May-15-07 05:48 PM |
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Really? Were you not on his case for calling out Dean for using "religion to divide"? |
jefferson_dem |
May-14-07 07:35 PM |
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Yes, he took the side of the right wing against his own party. |
madfloridian |
May-14-07 07:39 PM |
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So I guess when you said he argued in favor of |
tishaLA |
May-16-07 04:42 PM |
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Let's give this a rec for all the "alien invaders" with orange hats. |
madfloridian |
May-14-07 06:54 PM |
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Obama is doing Well |
Ethelk2044 |
May-14-07 07:01 PM |
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Good for him. |
madfloridian |
May-14-07 07:04 PM |
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In 2003 and 2004 our party was so adverse to passion and caring... |
madfloridian |
May-14-07 07:10 PM |
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It's amazing how an honest criticism of the Dean campaign |
Connie_Corleone |
May-14-07 07:17 PM |
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Yeh, it's very odd how "alien invaders" is an insulting term |
madfloridian |
May-14-07 07:24 PM |
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I read "alien invaders" |
tammywammy |
May-14-07 07:29 PM |
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it refers to the hoodie nation that "invaded" swing states |
AtomicKitten |
May-14-07 07:38 PM |
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No one in the article questioned the dedication and hard work of |
Connie_Corleone |
May-14-07 07:39 PM |
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Nothing else to say. |
madfloridian |
May-14-07 07:41 PM |
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"alien invaders" says it all. |
madfloridian |
May-14-07 07:32 PM |
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The Kucinich campaign was similar |
eridani |
May-15-07 02:22 AM |
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excellent |
illinoisprogressive |
May-14-07 07:31 PM |
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Yes, it helped me see how things really stand. |
madfloridian |
May-14-07 07:33 PM |
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Oh, goodness |
Morgana LaFey |
May-14-07 07:34 PM |
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Here are just a few pics of those "alien invaders"..... |
madfloridian |
May-14-07 08:23 PM |
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This is going to shock madfloridian but. . . |
wndycty |
May-15-07 03:09 PM |
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It's criticism of the "people in the orange hats." Dean is fair game now. |
madfloridian |
May-15-07 06:34 PM |
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Insensitive and rude? |
wndycty |
May-15-07 09:58 PM |
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Worse yet, mad, this gal says Dean volunteers could not be trusted! |
ieoeja |
May-15-07 04:34 PM |
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that's not the implication |
AtomicKitten |
May-15-07 04:44 PM |
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The over reaction by some Deaniacs proves the very basis of the article. |
rinsd |
May-15-07 04:53 PM |
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What a hateful thing to say. n/t |
LizW |
May-15-07 05:12 PM |
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Yes, a reasoned response sans hyperbole. |
rinsd |
May-15-07 05:16 PM |
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self delete double post |
rinsd |
May-15-07 05:16 PM |
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I don't see any hate |
NewYorkerfromMass |
May-15-07 05:33 PM |
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Well, my "reason" about Obama's campaign just clouded over |
madfloridian |
May-15-07 05:50 PM |
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Who is insulting you?? |
Connie_Corleone |
May-15-07 06:04 PM |
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This is about those people who traveled there because they cared. |
madfloridian |
May-15-07 06:17 PM |
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I don't get it either. |
AtomicKitten |
May-15-07 05:12 PM |
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This is very good for Obama, for the party and for the country. |
rinsd |
May-15-07 05:20 PM |
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That's right. It shows how clear-headed Obama's campaign is |
tishaLA |
May-16-07 04:37 PM |
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That was tasteless. |
madfloridian |
May-15-07 06:46 PM |
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No, manufactured outrage is tasteless. Getting called on it is priceless (nt) |
rinsd |
May-15-07 06:50 PM |
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Your remarks tell me so much about what our party has become. |
madfloridian |
May-15-07 06:50 PM |
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Well, some have said Sen. Obama favored privatizing |
tishaLA |
May-16-07 04:39 PM |
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Don't worry. I doubt many of these "Dean supporters" have any interest in.. |
Dawgs |
May-15-07 08:09 PM |
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Name two! |
ieoeja |
May-16-07 12:36 PM |
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Glad to see this hit on Deaniacs made it to the Greatest Page |
madfloridian |
May-15-07 05:47 PM |
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Isn't it kind of arrogant to take criticism of a policy as a personal attack? |
Dawgs |
May-15-07 08:18 PM |
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Yes, they made fun of the folks in Iowa. |
madfloridian |
May-15-07 08:32 PM |
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I really like Dean, but you'd have to be pretty think skinned to take offense to this |
skipos |
May-15-07 06:08 PM |
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Yes, I come here every day to get insulted. |
madfloridian |
May-15-07 06:15 PM |
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Actually, I feel like your posts are often hypersensitive |
skipos |
May-15-07 06:29 PM |
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Pile it on the sensitive people . |
madfloridian |
May-15-07 06:36 PM |
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Why is Obama insulting Dean? |
ultraist |
May-15-07 06:16 PM |
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It's not an insult. It's called constructive criticism of a campaign. |
Connie_Corleone |
May-15-07 06:39 PM |
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No, Dean is not. His supporters are. They are being made fun of. |
madfloridian |
May-15-07 06:41 PM |
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You're too sensitive. |
Connie_Corleone |
May-15-07 06:58 PM |
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Yes, I am sensitive. I take pride in it. I am not rude to others either. |
madfloridian |
May-15-07 07:03 PM |
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How is Dean being insulted here? |
tammywammy |
May-15-07 06:46 PM |
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It's just his supporters. |
madfloridian |
May-15-07 06:51 PM |
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I already know your opinion |
tammywammy |
May-15-07 07:02 PM |
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Where did OBAMA insult Dean? |
Dawgs |
May-15-07 08:22 PM |
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Good for Obama. |
Dawgs |
May-15-07 08:19 PM |
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I agree. |
AtomicKitten |
May-15-07 08:27 PM |
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I am amazed at how the issue turned on my sensitive nature. |
madfloridian |
May-15-07 08:30 PM |
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I know two people who worked for Dean in Iowa |
MrsT |
May-15-07 09:14 PM |
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He was talking about the strategy, not the people |
ripple |
May-15-07 10:19 PM |
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The point is that it did not need to have been brought up. |
madfloridian |
May-15-07 10:31 PM |
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That's what strategists do |
ripple |
May-16-07 10:00 AM |
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I disagree. |
madfloridian |
May-16-07 11:43 AM |
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Ok, then. I'll still tap |
ripple |
May-16-07 01:44 PM |
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Well the issue has turned into just about everything *but* the point. |
bling bling |
May-15-07 10:45 PM |
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Its a lost cause. . . |
wndycty |
May-16-07 06:56 AM |
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The Obama campaign raised the issue on purpose. Why? |
madfloridian |
May-16-07 10:15 AM |
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Madfloridian doesn't represent all Dean supporters by any stretch |
MrsT |
May-16-07 10:33 AM |
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Madfloridian defends the orange hat folks and gets blasted. |
madfloridian |
May-16-07 10:42 AM |
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So was Dean insulting the Orange Hat people? |
ieoeja |
May-16-07 11:20 AM |
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Less melodrama would help the discussion |
MrsT |
May-16-07 12:10 PM |
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"melodrama" is another word often used to put down others. |
madfloridian |
May-16-07 12:16 PM |
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Accusing others of "piling on" you when they aren't is a way of being melodramatic |
MrsT |
May-16-07 12:33 PM |
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There is a difference between critiquing and ridiculing. |
madfloridian |
May-16-07 05:13 PM |
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Yeah, it's pretty much an exercise in futility. |
bling bling |
May-16-07 11:12 AM |
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Thanks for the kind words. I am not planning on leaving. |
madfloridian |
May-16-07 11:34 AM |
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Oh dear. |
bling bling |
May-16-07 01:46 PM |
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um, well .... |
AtomicKitten |
May-16-07 03:21 PM |
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I beg your pardon. |
bling bling |
May-16-07 05:16 PM |
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'..."Everybody realizes what a disaster that was....' |
xxqqqzme |
May-16-07 11:34 AM |
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It was a positive experience in many states for many people. |
madfloridian |
May-16-07 04:54 PM |
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