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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 04:10 PM
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67. Overconfidence in the Clinton camp is just fine with me
I personally still have yet to meet anyone who would support Senator Clinton in the primaries... I'm out in the streets doing grassroots work and many have walked up to me to talk about 2008.

So let it be known that overconfidence (especially 8 months away from the Iowa caucus) in the part of ANY campaign is, as it always is historically, a weakness. Being a frontrunner this early in the election cycle may get you headlines now, but it will surely sink you as the mainstream media gets tired of that status.

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  -Clinton extends lead over Obama in Several States & Nationwide Polls Alamom  May-14-07 04:18 AM   #0 
  - Sorry, I just dont find this to be good news.  Old Vet   May-14-07 04:27 AM   #1 
  - Hillary leads most primary polls, but underperforms Edwards and Obama in most general elec. polls  skipos   May-14-07 08:06 AM   #16 
  - bringing us just a little bit closer to President John McCain.  BlueManDude   May-14-07 04:43 AM   #2 
  - why? She defeats McCain in head to head match ups.  wyldwolf   May-14-07 05:11 AM   #4 
  - Those polls mean nothing now. It all changes when the choices are narrowed to two.  BlueManDude   May-14-07 05:22 AM   #5 
     - so you're hoping she loses to the Republican?  wyldwolf   May-14-07 05:29 AM   #6 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   May-14-07 05:44 AM   #10 
  - "Anyone but Hillary in 08."?  MethuenProgressive   May-14-07 05:46 AM   #11 
     - I'm sure when referring to people like this...  wyldwolf   May-14-07 05:47 AM   #12 
        - I think the problem is many Democrats think  Egnever   May-14-07 10:53 AM   #37 
           - no, I would say only the fringe... but then...  wyldwolf   May-14-07 02:31 PM   #50 
  - Not only is this good news, but Senator Clinton will be president,  durrrty libby   May-14-07 05:09 AM   #3 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   May-14-07 03:44 PM   #63 
  - General Election match-ups are what's important...  elizm   May-14-07 05:37 AM   #7 
  - ...and she leads there, too.  wyldwolf   May-14-07 05:42 AM   #8 
     - Huh? Just the other day you admitted that she underperforms Edwards and Obama  skipos   May-14-07 08:07 AM   #17 
        - huh? You lead the GOP candidates but still underperform against others... right?  wyldwolf   May-14-07 08:30 AM   #21 
           - Ah, ok. You still recognize she underperforms the other dem candidates  skipos   May-14-07 08:49 AM   #22 
              - I still recognize in two week old polls she does, but in recent polls the number have improved.  wyldwolf   May-14-07 08:50 AM   #23 
                 - So in recent g.e. polls, she is outperforming Edwards and Obama? Where?  skipos   May-14-07 08:56 AM   #24 
                    - Here:  wyldwolf   May-14-07 09:35 AM   #26 
                       - Edwards performs better than Hillary in that poll.  skipos   May-14-07 10:48 AM   #34 
                          - So? I said her numbers had improved. She now performs better than Obama in that poll  wyldwolf   May-14-07 10:50 AM   #36 
                             - I said  skipos   May-14-07 10:55 AM   #38 
                                - I also said in the subject line of my post: "but in recent polls the number have improved."  wyldwolf   May-14-07 10:57 AM   #39 
                                   - oops  skipos   May-14-07 06:28 PM   #74 
  - Edwards continues to fade.  MethuenProgressive   May-14-07 05:43 AM   #9 
  - 14% - 17% base and it's stable. (nt)  w4rma   May-14-07 05:57 AM   #13 
  - Worst place Hillary can be is where she's at now.  Dawgs   May-14-07 07:21 AM   #14 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   May-14-07 08:01 AM   #15 
  - I would hope so but if she's perceived to have a big lead, the media will cloak her  jefferson_dem   May-14-07 11:11 AM   #41 
  - Polls for this week are not out yet, I have checked. this is misleading  illinoisprogressive   May-14-07 08:15 AM   #18 
  - so the polls are current until new polls say differently. Sorry. :(  wyldwolf   May-14-07 08:22 AM   #19 
  - "this is misleading" you wish  durrrty libby   May-14-07 08:23 AM   #20 
  - Thank god its early  Egnever   May-14-07 09:34 AM   #25 
  - Rassmussen: Obama within 2 points of Hillary. That is extending??????  illinoisprogressive   May-14-07 09:47 AM   #27 
  - uh... yeah?  wyldwolf   May-14-07 09:51 AM   #28 
  - Who was polled in this one  Egnever   May-14-07 09:53 AM   #29 
     - I just love the way the Hillaries crow when she is up and dismisss when she LOOSES  illinoisprogressive   May-14-07 09:59 AM   #30 
     - Quinnipac shows Hillary with a 14 pt lead over Obama, as well!  Tellurian   May-14-07 10:18 AM   #32 
     - Quinnipac shows Hillary doing worse than Obama against McCain and Giuliani!  skipos   May-14-07 11:00 AM   #40 
        - No it doesn't! It's statistically a dead heat between them..  Tellurian   May-14-07 11:35 AM   #42 
           - Before I respond, can you answer these questions with a yes or no please?  skipos   May-14-07 11:59 AM   #43 
              - Insufficient data for polling...  Tellurian   May-14-07 01:57 PM   #45 
                 - So then why do you talk about primary polls?  skipos   May-14-07 02:16 PM   #46 
                    - If Hillary doesn't win the primary, your point is moot! nm  Tellurian   May-14-07 02:22 PM   #48 
                       - Could you please answer my questions? nt  skipos   May-14-07 02:50 PM   #52 
                          - It was answered in post #50...you just don't like the answer and nothing left to discuss-  Tellurian   May-14-07 02:54 PM   #53 
                             - I am not understanding your answer, since you seem to be avoiding the quesion.  skipos   May-14-07 03:09 PM   #56 
                                - Sure you are- you're just having trouble admitting it's True!  Tellurian   May-14-07 03:55 PM   #65 
                                   - I don't understand why you are so scared to answer the questions.  skipos   May-14-07 04:18 PM   #68 
                                      - Why are you so frightened to accept my answer..?  Tellurian   May-14-07 04:20 PM   #70 
                                         - WHAT ANSWER?!?  skipos   May-14-07 04:30 PM   #72 
                                            - Why can't you admit your point is "moot" if Hillary is not the nominee?  Tellurian   May-14-07 06:10 PM   #73 
                                               - Sure, it is moot. Now could you please take 2 minutes and go to  skipos   May-14-07 06:31 PM   #75 
     - Everyone has a dog in this hunt  Egnever   May-14-07 10:50 AM   #35 
     - I think it is great that she is LOOSE. The LOOSER the better  durrrty libby   May-14-07 12:13 PM   #44 
     - Hillary IS LOOSE and Loving it!  Tellurian   May-14-07 02:27 PM   #49 
        - Love the graph and photo.Seems people continue to admire  Alamom   May-14-07 02:47 PM   #51 
        - I agree, it was just a play on words..  Tellurian   May-14-07 02:57 PM   #55 
           - I know.......  Alamom   May-14-07 07:23 PM   #77 
        - Nice graph.  durrrty libby   May-14-07 03:28 PM   #60 
           - The Utube event: Tucker was aghast that BC said Hillary was the "Face of America"..  Tellurian   May-14-07 04:03 PM   #66 
              - Tucker hates all things Clinton.  durrrty libby   May-14-07 04:19 PM   # 
     - Umm I don't think that poster was a Hillary supporter.  rinsd   May-14-07 02:22 PM   #47 
     - Dems and Dem leaning independents...  SaveElmer   May-14-07 03:26 PM   #59 
  - Clinton Maintains 14 pt Democratic Lead Over Obama  Tellurian   May-14-07 10:09 AM   #31 
  - It's early...  mzmolly   May-14-07 10:36 AM   #33 
  - Hillary is not electable, she will fade away at the end...Obama Richardson  Nimrod2005   May-14-07 02:56 PM   #54 
  - if your crystal ball is still turned on, tell me this week's winning numbers, ok?  wyldwolf   May-14-07 03:10 PM   #57 
  - 11 13 25 27 32 00  Nimrod2005   May-14-07 03:19 PM   #58 
     - thank you. I'll donate some of my winnings to the Clinton campaign in your name.  wyldwolf   May-14-07 03:34 PM   #61 
        - Funk that. You win and its time to form your own PAC!  rinsd   May-14-07 04:19 PM   #69 
  - Richardson is THE pick for VP...  polichick   May-14-07 04:25 PM   #71 
  - Ugh! Just what the country needs, another tacker (Clinton) and  coalition_unwilling   May-14-07 03:41 PM   #62 
  - Hillary is just asking to crash and burn...  Bullet1987   May-14-07 03:52 PM   #64 
  - Overconfidence in the Clinton camp is just fine with me  zulchzulu   May-14-07 04:10 PM   #67 
     - underestimating Clinton from all the other camps is just fine by me  wyldwolf   May-14-07 07:15 PM   #76 
 

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