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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 09:34 AM
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6. the patriarchy,baby...
the story is as old as the hills.
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  -Is marital infidelity with younger subordinates a symptom of GumboYaYa  Feb-13-04 09:29 AM   #0 
  - Leave the beltway out of it.  returnable   Feb-13-04 09:31 AM   #1 
  - How many fifty plus year old men do you know  GumboYaYa   Feb-13-04 09:34 AM   #5 
  - I worked in Congress  seventhson   Feb-13-04 09:44 AM   #16 
  - One could say that the young women  mrgorth   Feb-13-04 11:07 AM   #63 
  - lol  pezcore64   Feb-13-04 01:33 PM   #78 
  - the problem is not the beltway  Snivi Yllom   Feb-13-04 12:58 PM   #76 
  - It's a symptom of men who are in positions of power.  eileen_d   Feb-13-04 09:31 AM   #2 
  - Absolutely!  ShimokitaJer   Feb-13-04 09:33 AM   #4 
  - "knowledge of this affair was... widespread"  eileen_d   Feb-13-04 09:36 AM   #8 
     - Interesting use of ellipses  ShimokitaJer   Feb-13-04 09:58 AM   #23 
        - I believe you are splitting hairs  eileen_d   Feb-13-04 10:06 AM   #34 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-13-04 12:52 PM   #75 
  - it's also a symptom of those attracted to "power and wealth"  HereSince1628   Feb-13-04 09:56 AM   #20 
  - it happens outside the beltway as well  maddezmom   Feb-13-04 09:33 AM   #3 
  - But, generally, when itis discovered in those contexts  GumboYaYa   Feb-13-04 09:35 AM   #7 
     - ya think  maddezmom   Feb-13-04 09:40 AM   #13 
        - me too  JI7   Feb-13-04 09:57 AM   #22 
  - the patriarchy,baby...  CWebster   Feb-13-04 09:34 AM   #6 
  - Change the culture? As in - defend the sanctity of marriage?  BR_Parkway   Feb-13-04 09:37 AM   # 
  - Interns and congress  mikehiggins   Feb-13-04 09:37 AM   #9 
  - And what about these young women?  slappypan   Feb-13-04 09:37 AM   #10 
  - These aren't rapes. Power is an aphrodesiac  Jacobin   Feb-13-04 09:39 AM   #11 
  - Well said  ewagner   Feb-13-04 09:55 AM   #19 
  - None of the gentlemen you name --  Ghost Consul   Feb-13-04 09:39 AM   #12 
  - I'm not making a moral judgment on their sexual actvity.  GumboYaYa   Feb-13-04 09:44 AM   #15 
     - I hear your point, but I'm suggesting that --  Ghost Consul   Feb-13-04 09:51 AM   #17 
        - I agree; I am not inetersted in the dynamic that  GumboYaYa   Feb-13-04 09:57 AM   #21 
           - guys without money and power do it also  JI7   Feb-13-04 10:03 AM   #31 
           - No it isn't. Your inside-the-beltway-all-is-wicked theory --  Ghost Consul   Feb-13-04 10:11 AM   #35 
              - I know that it happens everywhere.  GumboYaYa   Feb-13-04 10:19 AM   #36 
                 - Do you not acknowledge that men and women who --  Ghost Consul   Feb-13-04 10:29 AM   #40 
                    - Well. I lisetd several prominent cases, and then admitted  GumboYaYa   Feb-13-04 10:34 AM   #44 
                       - Perhaps it would be more effective if --  Ghost Consul   Feb-13-04 10:46 AM   #53 
                          - True, I can't argue with the notion that judgmentalism  GumboYaYa   Feb-13-04 10:49 AM   #56 
                             - Tell me from which planet you will recruit "new --  Ghost Consul   Feb-13-04 11:08 AM   #64 
                                - It's not sex that we need to get rid of; it's the sense of  GumboYaYa   Feb-13-04 11:14 AM   #65 
                                   - The U.S. Press asked Nobel Prize Lauriat Gabriel --  Ghost Consul   Feb-13-04 11:32 AM   #66 
                                      - I agree with Marquez....the difference is that Clinton was already  GumboYaYa   Feb-13-04 11:42 AM   #67 
  - certainly--there is no honor among them  librechik   Feb-13-04 09:42 AM   #14 
  - MoveOn, MoveOn, MoveOn, MoveOn: Stop Recycling the Baseless Slime!!  WiseMen   Feb-13-04 09:54 AM   #18 
  - Move on, let's just get past this...  CWebster   Feb-13-04 09:58 AM   #24 
  - Don't look at the man behind the curtain!!!!  ShimokitaJer   Feb-13-04 09:58 AM   #26 
  - Who let the Wisebot loose?  charlie   Feb-13-04 10:02 AM   #28 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-13-04 10:02 AM   #29 
  - "Stop crying in your teacups!" N/T  Caliphoto   Feb-13-04 10:32 AM   #43 
     - no what he said was  kenny blankenship   Feb-13-04 02:43 PM   #81 
  - Bravo!  JasonBerry   Feb-13-04 09:58 AM   #25 
  - some WANT to have sex with them  JI7   Feb-13-04 10:06 AM   #33 
  - it has to do with years of defending Clinton I think  Cheswick   Feb-13-04 10:47 AM   #55 
  - Slander-mongers  bigtree   Feb-13-04 10:00 AM   #27 
  - Truth is the absolute defense to slander.  GumboYaYa   Feb-13-04 10:05 AM   #32 
  - ## Support Democratic Underground! ##  DU GrovelBot   Feb-13-04 10:02 AM   #30 
  - Cover your ears, dearie  draftcaroline   Feb-13-04 03:02 PM   #85 
  - The terms themselves create the problem.  JackRiddler   Feb-13-04 10:19 AM   #37 
  - It's not about sex, it's about sexual harassment.  GumboYaYa   Feb-13-04 10:24 AM   #38 
  - I don't believe either...  JackRiddler   Feb-13-04 12:19 PM   #71 
  - sorry, but it just plain sleazy when you cheat on your wife with a girl  Cheswick   Feb-13-04 10:51 AM   #57 
     - "Cheat"  JackRiddler   Feb-13-04 12:18 PM   #70 
  - I don't know  rpalochko   Feb-13-04 10:29 AM   #39 
  - LOL, touche...  GumboYaYa   Feb-13-04 10:36 AM   #45 
  - It's been studied. It's a power thing.. for both sides. N/T  Caliphoto   Feb-13-04 10:30 AM   #41 
  - I don't know where you live  redqueen   Feb-13-04 10:31 AM   #42 
  - "innocent" questions ... actually an underhanded effort to spread rumor?  yellowcanine   Feb-13-04 10:36 AM   #46 
  - we need to google to find out what people's opinions are about affairs?  Cheswick   Feb-13-04 10:42 AM   #49 
     - Proper for the Primary 2004 Discussion? Moderator needs to decide this.  yellowcanine   Feb-13-04 10:55 AM   #60 
  - No, it's a symbol of wealthy-middle-aged-males' sense of entitlement  Mairead   Feb-13-04 10:38 AM   #47 
  - there has always been that sense of entitlement amoung powerful men  Cheswick   Feb-13-04 10:38 AM   #48 
  - I googled "Is Bob Packwood a slime-ball"  GumboYaYa   Feb-13-04 10:45 AM   #52 
     - LOL, I guess you really can google opinions  Cheswick   Feb-13-04 10:52 AM   #58 
  - Strange as this may sound,  saywhat   Feb-13-04 10:42 AM   #50 
  - So people should be allowed to go about imposing their sexual  GumboYaYa   Feb-13-04 10:46 AM   #54 
     - Do you really think that sexual affairs are limited to the "beltway" lol?  saywhat   Feb-13-04 10:53 AM   #59 
        - Again, it's not about sex, it's about sexual harassment.  GumboYaYa   Feb-13-04 11:00 AM   #61 
           - And I'll say it AGAIN, if those young people file sexual harassment suits  saywhat   Feb-13-04 11:06 AM   #62 
  - In Kerry's case, there is also the emasculation issue to consider  Northwind   Feb-13-04 10:44 AM   #51 
  - Sex with subordinates is despicable  JVS   Feb-13-04 11:45 AM   #68 
  - Assuming for a second that the rumor is correct,  saywhat   Feb-13-04 11:46 AM   #69 
  - Why not just ban it altogether?  JackRiddler   Feb-13-04 12:22 PM   #72 
  - we shouldnt always assume sex in the workplace is sexual harassment...  bhunt70   Feb-13-04 12:41 PM   #73 
  - Did people stop having sex or something?  Colin Ex   Feb-13-04 12:48 PM   #74 
  - seriously  dymaxia   Feb-13-04 02:57 PM   #84 
     - It isn't about sex. People want to say anyone who questions  GumboYaYa   Feb-13-04 03:05 PM   #86 
  - NO but  Carolina   Feb-13-04 01:30 PM   #77 
  - Men in power have been having affairs from the beginning of time.  Jen72   Feb-13-04 02:38 PM   #79 
  - I'm sorry, but the "boys will be boys" defense is not good  GumboYaYa   Feb-13-04 02:43 PM   #80 
  - It happens everywhere, and the girls are willing participants.  dawn   Feb-13-04 02:54 PM   #82 
  - What is your opinion of the character of the men who did that?  GumboYaYa   Feb-13-04 02:56 PM   #83 
  - Ah, a cynical/realist/mature thread!  draftcaroline   Feb-13-04 03:09 PM   #87 
     - Sorry, but those ARE NOT the ordinary rules of conduct for me.  GumboYaYa   Feb-13-04 03:17 PM   #88 
 

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