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Mon May-07-07 08:26 AM
Response to Reply #132 |
| 142. Does Edwards have a better voting record than Obama? |
| -Snafulopagos to Edwards: Is this apologizing becoming a pattern? |
The Count |
May-06-07 10:48 AM |
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This is a potential problem for Senator Edwards |
Oglethorpe |
May-06-07 10:54 AM |
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I'd say it's a big problem. |
Joe Fields |
May-06-07 08:07 PM |
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I have "lowered my expectations"... |
madfloridian |
May-06-07 10:57 AM |
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Of the candidate? n/t |
dogman |
May-06-07 11:03 AM |
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At DU, as the note said. |
madfloridian |
May-06-07 11:24 AM |
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I don't personally use the ignore feature, but this is why (and for whom) it was created. |
Czolgosz |
May-06-07 04:33 PM |
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It's an attack to look at one's record? |
Clark2008 |
May-06-07 10:08 PM |
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These posts do nothing to defend/support your candidate... |
IA_Seth |
May-06-07 12:33 PM |
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Not intended to do either. |
madfloridian |
May-06-07 01:17 PM |
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The Bankruptcy Law is a huge issue for me. |
graywarrior |
May-06-07 11:00 AM |
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The bankrupcy bill is a huge issue for me too - because it goes to what his believes really are |
karynnj |
May-06-07 12:02 PM |
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Exactly. Voting for that bill represents the core of who the voters are. |
graywarrior |
May-06-07 02:00 PM |
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The critical bill was the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005. Edwards |
Czolgosz |
May-06-07 05:29 PM |
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I realize that the Bankrupcy bill of 2005 was worse |
karynnj |
May-06-07 07:08 PM |
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Actually, I'm equally open to Obama and Edwards. I may even vote for Kucinich because the nominee |
Czolgosz |
May-06-07 09:30 PM |
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I also have no candidate |
karynnj |
May-06-07 10:16 PM |
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The 2001 bill never became law |
dsc |
May-06-07 09:14 PM |
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He wasn't speaking of any bill just the current situation |
karynnj |
May-07-07 07:37 AM |
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Maybe you can be fooled by false intelligence on Iraq, but |
chieftain |
May-06-07 02:26 PM |
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Would he do the same in an intervue with Hilliary ? |
bahrbearian |
May-06-07 11:04 AM |
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Probably yes, as he made his career bashing Bill |
The Count |
May-06-07 01:42 PM |
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Before he bashed Bill he worked in his administration |
karynnj |
May-06-07 02:05 PM |
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It will be interesting to see how he deals with Obama next week. |
illinoisprogressive |
May-06-07 11:06 AM |
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There are some questions Obama should answer, as well |
WesDem |
May-06-07 12:37 PM |
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Which questions should Obama answer? Not disagreeing, just.. |
Dawgs |
May-06-07 12:53 PM |
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Obama's higher on my list than most candidates |
WesDem |
May-06-07 01:08 PM |
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Hamilton Project, Lieberman campaign, against antiwar liberals in primarys, against Alito filibuster |
w4rma |
May-06-07 02:10 PM |
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Can we get Gore or Kerry back? |
karynnj |
May-06-07 02:17 PM |
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I'm extremely happy with my candidate. I trust him. |
w4rma |
May-06-07 02:40 PM |
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In all fairness, It was Kerry who pushed Gore out in 2004 (2002?) |
The Count |
May-06-07 03:08 PM |
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scrutiny is always more palatable |
AtomicKitten |
May-06-07 03:32 PM |
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Not true - He had no way of doing that |
karynnj |
May-06-07 03:36 PM |
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I agree with karynnj. Kerry had no way of doing that. So, be fair and don't shovel that on Kerry. |
w4rma |
May-06-07 04:27 PM |
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Well, that's just an outline of an opinion piece |
WesDem |
May-06-07 07:19 PM |
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Yeah,but besides all that,what's wrong with him? |
Forkboy |
May-06-07 03:06 PM |
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It's pretty discouraging, |
seasonedblue |
May-06-07 03:08 PM |
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That's where I started. |
Forkboy |
May-06-07 03:19 PM |
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That was pretty much his reaction to my OP |
The Count |
May-06-07 03:09 PM |
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Both lists are troubling to me as well. |
Forkboy |
May-06-07 03:23 PM |
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I received a letter from the Obama campaign about a week ago and it really |
emmadoggy |
May-06-07 03:08 PM |
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I hope you're so proud of yourself. Looks like you already swayed people too! |
bling bling |
May-06-07 04:14 PM |
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It is clear the M.O. of some here |
AtomicKitten |
May-06-07 04:36 PM |
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It's scary to see how quickly others are to just believe the hype. |
bling bling |
May-06-07 04:44 PM |
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The Angelides vs Westly primary in California |
AtomicKitten |
May-06-07 05:49 PM |
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I tend to agree with w4rma. n/t |
Inspired |
May-06-07 06:06 PM |
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Well you're certainly entitled to do so. |
bling bling |
May-06-07 06:31 PM |
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That's ok bling bling, |
seasonedblue |
May-06-07 04:51 PM |
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Thanks for saying so. |
bling bling |
May-06-07 06:46 PM |
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I think we also have to |
seasonedblue |
May-06-07 07:02 PM |
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I don't think people are that easily swayed |
WesDem |
May-06-07 06:39 PM |
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So what do you have against the Hamilton Project... |
zulchzulu |
May-06-07 06:26 PM |
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Here is an entire thread devoted to this topc. Post your queries here. |
w4rma |
May-06-07 06:50 PM |
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Actually that's more of the same shit posed in this thread... |
zulchzulu |
May-06-07 08:16 PM |
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I posted it in the other thread. (nt) |
w4rma |
May-06-07 10:20 PM |
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More than Obama, will he demand the same of Hillary Clinton |
karynnj |
May-06-07 01:53 PM |
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Again, Snaffi made his career of ATTACKING the Clintons, so to expect that |
The Count |
May-06-07 03:04 PM |
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Have you read his book? |
karynnj |
May-06-07 03:44 PM |
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I hope he asks him about the tithing protection bill he sponsored - my trouble |
The Count |
May-06-07 02:12 PM |
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I wish I hadn't read this thread and looked at that list. I think Edwards |
higher class |
May-06-07 11:47 AM |
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I think the individual is responsible |
WesDem |
May-06-07 12:53 PM |
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hammer meet nail |
Carolina |
May-06-07 01:06 PM |
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Kerry was also a member of the DLC |
fujiyama |
May-06-07 01:22 PM |
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One more flip-flop... |
elizm |
May-06-07 12:03 PM |
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How do you run as an "environmentalist" |
WesDem |
May-06-07 12:33 PM |
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Is there a candidate running this year with a great environmental record? |
karynnj |
May-06-07 02:12 PM |
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Biden and Dodd have good records over a long period of time. |
NCarolinawoman |
May-06-07 07:00 PM |
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Nice to hear that |
karynnj |
May-06-07 08:53 PM |
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you won't be flamed by this Edwards supporter |
themartyred |
May-06-07 12:41 PM |
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Very admirable attitude to take themartyred! |
seasonedblue |
May-06-07 12:58 PM |
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why thank you, thank you very much. n/t |
themartyred |
May-06-07 02:02 PM |
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The thing is I don't buy it |
kitticup |
May-06-07 02:47 PM |
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No flames here |
Carolina |
May-06-07 01:13 PM |
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I completely agree with you |
kitticup |
May-06-07 02:35 PM |
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What's a "Snafulopagos"? |
Pigwidgeon |
May-06-07 12:42 PM |
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George Stephenopolous, This Week commentator (I think), he's a hard hittin former Clinton aide n/t |
themartyred |
May-06-07 12:45 PM |
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Just wanted to emphasize, not a very credible pundit by using the name |
The Count |
May-06-07 01:52 PM |
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So, we should have let Bush run unopposed? |
karynnj |
May-06-07 02:20 PM |
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I actually credit Kerry with winning outright (then take it back for lack of fight) |
The Count |
May-06-07 03:01 PM |
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"Big Bird's friend." |
Evergreen Emerald |
May-06-07 09:14 PM |
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"My beliefs didn't change, voters should just look at me and trust me" |
MethuenProgressive |
May-06-07 12:54 PM |
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Could the reasons for his votes have something to do with his ties |
AuntPatsy |
May-06-07 01:20 PM |
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I know there are a lot of conspiracy theories |
seasonedblue |
May-06-07 01:28 PM |
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I've been reading up on that particular groups simply because there |
AuntPatsy |
May-06-07 01:34 PM |
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Exactly. |
seasonedblue |
May-06-07 01:37 PM |
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well, the media would rather talk about "Anna Nicole's baby's daddy" than just about anything else |
jsamuel |
May-06-07 01:42 PM |
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Of course. |
seasonedblue |
May-06-07 01:44 PM |
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Exaclty what I said to my husband one night while he was watching |
AuntPatsy |
May-06-07 01:56 PM |
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MSM doesn't pass that easily a chance to attack a Democrat - unless they hold |
The Count |
May-06-07 02:03 PM |
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these days it would be wise to watch exactly what the msm is pushing |
AuntPatsy |
May-06-07 02:24 PM |
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Well consider some of the list of attendees, some very high profile |
AuntPatsy |
May-06-07 01:54 PM |
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self-delete |
seasonedblue |
May-06-07 02:13 PM |
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Ahhh...but some of the media |
Donna Zen |
May-06-07 01:49 PM |
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You would think by now that those making fun of so called conspiracy |
AuntPatsy |
May-06-07 01:57 PM |
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Which reminds me - PNAC also used the conspiracy cover for some time |
The Count |
May-06-07 02:09 PM |
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Exactly, how many times have you heard the term "Follow the Money" |
AuntPatsy |
May-06-07 02:37 PM |
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Certainly the much ignored speech threatening Iran has something to do with that |
The Count |
May-06-07 01:56 PM |
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But he did attend the meeting in 2002 where it was revealed invading |
AuntPatsy |
May-06-07 01:59 PM |
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Then you have a point on the possible connection to the IWR vote to this |
The Count |
May-06-07 02:05 PM |
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never mind lol. |
seasonedblue |
May-06-07 02:14 PM |
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I consider it highly relevant to the OP - so- no problem! |
The Count |
May-06-07 02:17 PM |
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Ok, I didn't want to sidetrack the discussion, |
seasonedblue |
May-06-07 02:20 PM |
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About NCLB |
Donna Zen |
May-06-07 02:02 PM |
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Thanks! Clark called it "a hand grenade thrown at public education meant to |
The Count |
May-06-07 02:07 PM |
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Most don't realize how important that is: |
Donna Zen |
May-06-07 03:13 PM |
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I hope this is just the beginning |
jenmarie |
May-06-07 03:10 PM |
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An alternative way to look at it |
karynnj |
May-06-07 03:41 PM |
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The punits will find any excuse to attack a Democrat. |
AX10 |
May-06-07 03:43 PM |
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Same one Hillary voted for in 2001 0r 2002? |
madfloridian |
May-06-07 03:59 PM |
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I missed the interview....could you fill me in please? |
madfloridian |
May-06-07 04:10 PM |
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Which bankruptcy law did they mention this morning? |
madfloridian |
May-06-07 04:38 PM |
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Which bankruptcy bill? |
madfloridian |
May-06-07 07:09 PM |
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It was the 2001 bill |
karynnj |
May-06-07 09:20 PM |
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Bill couldn't veto anything in 2001 - Bush was President |
karynnj |
May-06-07 08:56 PM |
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I believe Clinton had vetoed it or similar version when he was President. |
bling bling |
May-06-07 08:58 PM |
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I didn't realize that it had been a bill vetoed by Clinton |
karynnj |
May-06-07 09:28 PM |
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I posted the long Common Dreams article about it. |
madfloridian |
May-06-07 10:14 PM |
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Long read but this is what you were looking for |
AuntPatsy |
May-06-07 10:20 PM |
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Thanks for the article - it is sobbering |
karynnj |
May-07-07 07:54 AM |
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Do you mean this NCLB bill on which only 8 voted no? |
madfloridian |
May-06-07 04:45 PM |
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And which trade with china bill was that? |
madfloridian |
May-06-07 04:54 PM |
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Since Bill Clinton pushed that China trade bill so hard..... |
madfloridian |
May-06-07 05:03 PM |
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Here ya go... |
elizm |
May-06-07 05:36 PM |
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I will wait for the transcript. |
madfloridian |
May-06-07 05:59 PM |
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I humbly agree, it is too much to expect the talking heads to emit factual |
AuntPatsy |
May-06-07 06:09 PM |
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Here's a link to the video from ABC of the entire interview. |
flpoljunkie |
May-06-07 06:24 PM |
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I am waiting for the transcript. But thanks. |
madfloridian |
May-06-07 06:26 PM |
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It will piss you off. Steph really seems to be going after Edwards. |
flpoljunkie |
May-06-07 06:53 PM |
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So is everyone else. |
madfloridian |
May-06-07 07:01 PM |
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Perhaps the powers that be thought at one time that they had him |
AuntPatsy |
May-06-07 07:06 PM |
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I just watched the video, |
seasonedblue |
May-06-07 07:20 PM |
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Most candidates get puff stuff. |
madfloridian |
May-06-07 07:43 PM |
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Well, I would post my opinion, |
seasonedblue |
May-06-07 08:27 PM |
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Not really |
karynnj |
May-06-07 09:26 PM |
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Actually the reason may be simpler and not a conspiracy |
karynnj |
May-06-07 09:12 PM |
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Snafi fished his apologies, not his votes Apparently he found some for the 4 |
The Count |
May-06-07 10:05 PM |
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Should we judge candidates by their words or their actions? |
Freddie Stubbs |
May-06-07 09:14 PM |
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Actions speak louder than words do they not? |
AuntPatsy |
May-06-07 09:16 PM |
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Actions. Hillary fails as she takes no actions until everyone else has done all the work. |
w4rma |
May-06-07 10:10 PM |
#132 |
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let's see some examples of what you're claiming here |
wyldwolf |
May-07-07 08:25 AM |
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Does Edwards have a better voting record than Obama? |
Freddie Stubbs |
May-07-07 08:26 AM |
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I will watch the video and judge for myself........ |
FrenchieCat |
May-07-07 02:41 AM |
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This is why Senators |
Marie26 |
May-07-07 08:24 AM |
#140 |
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