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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 08:26 AM
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142. Does Edwards have a better voting record than Obama?
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  -Snafulopagos to Edwards: Is this apologizing becoming a pattern? The Count  May-06-07 10:48 AM   #0 
  - This is a potential problem for Senator Edwards  Oglethorpe   May-06-07 10:54 AM   #1 
  - I'd say it's a big problem.  Joe Fields   May-06-07 08:07 PM   #115 
  - I have "lowered my expectations"...  madfloridian   May-06-07 10:57 AM   #2 
  - Of the candidate? n/t  dogman   May-06-07 11:03 AM   #4 
  - At DU, as the note said.  madfloridian   May-06-07 11:24 AM   #7 
     - I don't personally use the ignore feature, but this is why (and for whom) it was created.  Czolgosz   May-06-07 04:33 PM   #84 
     - It's an attack to look at one's record?  Clark2008   May-06-07 10:08 PM   #131 
  - These posts do nothing to defend/support your candidate...  IA_Seth   May-06-07 12:33 PM   #11 
     - Not intended to do either.  madfloridian   May-06-07 01:17 PM   #24 
  - The Bankruptcy Law is a huge issue for me.  graywarrior   May-06-07 11:00 AM   #3 
  - The bankrupcy bill is a huge issue for me too - because it goes to what his believes really are  karynnj   May-06-07 12:02 PM   #9 
  - Exactly. Voting for that bill represents the core of who the voters are.  graywarrior   May-06-07 02:00 PM   #41 
  - The critical bill was the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005. Edwards  Czolgosz   May-06-07 05:29 PM   #92 
  - I realize that the Bankrupcy bill of 2005 was worse  karynnj   May-06-07 07:08 PM   #110 
     - Actually, I'm equally open to Obama and Edwards. I may even vote for Kucinich because the nominee  Czolgosz   May-06-07 09:30 PM   #129 
        - I also have no candidate  karynnj   May-06-07 10:16 PM   #134 
  - The 2001 bill never became law  dsc   May-06-07 09:14 PM   #124 
     - He wasn't speaking of any bill just the current situation  karynnj   May-07-07 07:37 AM   #138 
  - Maybe you can be fooled by false intelligence on Iraq, but  chieftain   May-06-07 02:26 PM   #59 
  - Would he do the same in an intervue with Hilliary ?  bahrbearian   May-06-07 11:04 AM   #5 
  - Probably yes, as he made his career bashing Bill  The Count   May-06-07 01:42 PM   #30 
     - Before he bashed Bill he worked in his administration  karynnj   May-06-07 02:05 PM   #45 
  - It will be interesting to see how he deals with Obama next week.  illinoisprogressive   May-06-07 11:06 AM   #6 
  - There are some questions Obama should answer, as well  WesDem   May-06-07 12:37 PM   #13 
  - Which questions should Obama answer? Not disagreeing, just..  Dawgs   May-06-07 12:53 PM   #17 
  - Obama's higher on my list than most candidates  WesDem   May-06-07 01:08 PM   #22 
     - Hamilton Project, Lieberman campaign, against antiwar liberals in primarys, against Alito filibuster  w4rma   May-06-07 02:10 PM   #49 
        - Can we get Gore or Kerry back?  karynnj   May-06-07 02:17 PM   #54 
        - I'm extremely happy with my candidate. I trust him.  w4rma   May-06-07 02:40 PM   #62 
        - In all fairness, It was Kerry who pushed Gore out in 2004 (2002?)  The Count   May-06-07 03:08 PM   #68 
           - scrutiny is always more palatable  AtomicKitten   May-06-07 03:32 PM   #75 
           - Not true - He had no way of doing that  karynnj   May-06-07 03:36 PM   #76 
           - I agree with karynnj. Kerry had no way of doing that. So, be fair and don't shovel that on Kerry.  w4rma   May-06-07 04:27 PM   #83 
        - Well, that's just an outline of an opinion piece  WesDem   May-06-07 07:19 PM   #112 
        - Yeah,but besides all that,what's wrong with him?  Forkboy   May-06-07 03:06 PM   #66 
        - It's pretty discouraging,  seasonedblue   May-06-07 03:08 PM   #69 
        - That's where I started.  Forkboy   May-06-07 03:19 PM   #73 
        - That was pretty much his reaction to my OP  The Count   May-06-07 03:09 PM   #70 
           - Both lists are troubling to me as well.  Forkboy   May-06-07 03:23 PM   #74 
        - I received a letter from the Obama campaign about a week ago and it really  emmadoggy   May-06-07 03:08 PM   #67 
        - I hope you're so proud of yourself. Looks like you already swayed people too!  bling bling   May-06-07 04:14 PM   #82 
        - It is clear the M.O. of some here  AtomicKitten   May-06-07 04:36 PM   #85 
        - It's scary to see how quickly others are to just believe the hype.  bling bling   May-06-07 04:44 PM   #87 
           - The Angelides vs Westly primary in California  AtomicKitten   May-06-07 05:49 PM   #94 
           - I tend to agree with w4rma. n/t  Inspired   May-06-07 06:06 PM   #96 
              - Well you're certainly entitled to do so.  bling bling   May-06-07 06:31 PM   #101 
        - That's ok bling bling,  seasonedblue   May-06-07 04:51 PM   #89 
        - Thanks for saying so.  bling bling   May-06-07 06:46 PM   #103 
           - I think we also have to  seasonedblue   May-06-07 07:02 PM   #108 
        - I don't think people are that easily swayed  WesDem   May-06-07 06:39 PM   #102 
        - So what do you have against the Hamilton Project...  zulchzulu   May-06-07 06:26 PM   #100 
           - Here is an entire thread devoted to this topc. Post your queries here.  w4rma   May-06-07 06:50 PM   #104 
              - Actually that's more of the same shit posed in this thread...  zulchzulu   May-06-07 08:16 PM   #116 
                 - I posted it in the other thread. (nt)  w4rma   May-06-07 10:20 PM   #136 
  - More than Obama, will he demand the same of Hillary Clinton  karynnj   May-06-07 01:53 PM   #35 
     - Again, Snaffi made his career of ATTACKING the Clintons, so to expect that  The Count   May-06-07 03:04 PM   #65 
        - Have you read his book?  karynnj   May-06-07 03:44 PM   #79 
  - I hope he asks him about the tithing protection bill he sponsored - my trouble  The Count   May-06-07 02:12 PM   #50 
  - I wish I hadn't read this thread and looked at that list. I think Edwards  higher class   May-06-07 11:47 AM   #8 
  - I think the individual is responsible  WesDem   May-06-07 12:53 PM   #18 
  - hammer meet nail  Carolina   May-06-07 01:06 PM   #21 
  - Kerry was also a member of the DLC  fujiyama   May-06-07 01:22 PM   #26 
  - One more flip-flop...  elizm   May-06-07 12:03 PM   #10 
  - How do you run as an "environmentalist"  WesDem   May-06-07 12:33 PM   #12 
  - Is there a candidate running this year with a great environmental record?  karynnj   May-06-07 02:12 PM   #51 
     - Biden and Dodd have good records over a long period of time.  NCarolinawoman   May-06-07 07:00 PM   #106 
        - Nice to hear that  karynnj   May-06-07 08:53 PM   #118 
  - you won't be flamed by this Edwards supporter  themartyred   May-06-07 12:41 PM   #14 
  - Very admirable attitude to take themartyred!  seasonedblue   May-06-07 12:58 PM   #20 
  - why thank you, thank you very much. n/t  themartyred   May-06-07 02:02 PM   #43 
  - The thing is I don't buy it  kitticup   May-06-07 02:47 PM   #63 
  - No flames here  Carolina   May-06-07 01:13 PM   #23 
  - I completely agree with you  kitticup   May-06-07 02:35 PM   #60 
  - What's a "Snafulopagos"?  Pigwidgeon   May-06-07 12:42 PM   #15 
  - George Stephenopolous, This Week commentator (I think), he's a hard hittin former Clinton aide n/t  themartyred   May-06-07 12:45 PM   #16 
  - Just wanted to emphasize, not a very credible pundit by using the name  The Count   May-06-07 01:52 PM   #34 
  - So, we should have let Bush run unopposed?  karynnj   May-06-07 02:20 PM   #56 
     - I actually credit Kerry with winning outright (then take it back for lack of fight)  The Count   May-06-07 03:01 PM   #64 
  - "Big Bird's friend."  Evergreen Emerald   May-06-07 09:14 PM   #123 
  - "My beliefs didn't change, voters should just look at me and trust me"  MethuenProgressive   May-06-07 12:54 PM   #19 
  - Could the reasons for his votes have something to do with his ties  AuntPatsy   May-06-07 01:20 PM   #25 
  - I know there are a lot of conspiracy theories  seasonedblue   May-06-07 01:28 PM   #27 
  - I've been reading up on that particular groups simply because there  AuntPatsy   May-06-07 01:34 PM   #28 
     - Exactly.  seasonedblue   May-06-07 01:37 PM   #29 
     - well, the media would rather talk about "Anna Nicole's baby's daddy" than just about anything else  jsamuel   May-06-07 01:42 PM   #31 
     - Of course.  seasonedblue   May-06-07 01:44 PM   #32 
     - Exaclty what I said to my husband one night while he was watching  AuntPatsy   May-06-07 01:56 PM   #38 
     - MSM doesn't pass that easily a chance to attack a Democrat - unless they hold  The Count   May-06-07 02:03 PM   #44 
        - these days it would be wise to watch exactly what the msm is pushing  AuntPatsy   May-06-07 02:24 PM   #58 
     - Well consider some of the list of attendees, some very high profile  AuntPatsy   May-06-07 01:54 PM   #36 
        - self-delete  seasonedblue   May-06-07 02:13 PM   #52 
     - Ahhh...but some of the media  Donna Zen   May-06-07 01:49 PM   #33 
        - You would think by now that those making fun of so called conspiracy  AuntPatsy   May-06-07 01:57 PM   #39 
           - Which reminds me - PNAC also used the conspiracy cover for some time  The Count   May-06-07 02:09 PM   #48 
              - Exactly, how many times have you heard the term "Follow the Money"  AuntPatsy   May-06-07 02:37 PM   #61 
  - Certainly the much ignored speech threatening Iran has something to do with that  The Count   May-06-07 01:56 PM   #37 
     - But he did attend the meeting in 2002 where it was revealed invading  AuntPatsy   May-06-07 01:59 PM   #40 
        - Then you have a point on the possible connection to the IWR vote to this  The Count   May-06-07 02:05 PM   #46 
           - never mind lol.  seasonedblue   May-06-07 02:14 PM   #53 
              - I consider it highly relevant to the OP - so- no problem!  The Count   May-06-07 02:17 PM   #55 
                 - Ok, I didn't want to sidetrack the discussion,  seasonedblue   May-06-07 02:20 PM   #57 
  - About NCLB  Donna Zen   May-06-07 02:02 PM   #42 
  - Thanks! Clark called it "a hand grenade thrown at public education meant to  The Count   May-06-07 02:07 PM   #47 
     - Most don't realize how important that is:  Donna Zen   May-06-07 03:13 PM   #72 
  - I hope this is just the beginning  jenmarie   May-06-07 03:10 PM   #71 
  - An alternative way to look at it  karynnj   May-06-07 03:41 PM   #77 
  - The punits will find any excuse to attack a Democrat.  AX10   May-06-07 03:43 PM   #78 
  - Same one Hillary voted for in 2001 0r 2002?  madfloridian   May-06-07 03:59 PM   #80 
  - I missed the interview....could you fill me in please?  madfloridian   May-06-07 04:10 PM   #81 
  - Which bankruptcy law did they mention this morning?  madfloridian   May-06-07 04:38 PM   #86 
  - Which bankruptcy bill?  madfloridian   May-06-07 07:09 PM   #111 
  - It was the 2001 bill  karynnj   May-06-07 09:20 PM   #126 
  - Bill couldn't veto anything in 2001 - Bush was President  karynnj   May-06-07 08:56 PM   #119 
  - I believe Clinton had vetoed it or similar version when he was President.  bling bling   May-06-07 08:58 PM   #120 
     - I didn't realize that it had been a bill vetoed by Clinton  karynnj   May-06-07 09:28 PM   #128 
     - I posted the long Common Dreams article about it.  madfloridian   May-06-07 10:14 PM   #133 
     - Long read but this is what you were looking for  AuntPatsy   May-06-07 10:20 PM   #135 
  - Thanks for the article - it is sobbering  karynnj   May-07-07 07:54 AM   #139 
  - Do you mean this NCLB bill on which only 8 voted no?  madfloridian   May-06-07 04:45 PM   #88 
  - And which trade with china bill was that?  madfloridian   May-06-07 04:54 PM   #90 
  - Since Bill Clinton pushed that China trade bill so hard.....  madfloridian   May-06-07 05:03 PM   #91 
  - Here ya go...  elizm   May-06-07 05:36 PM   #93 
     - I will wait for the transcript.  madfloridian   May-06-07 05:59 PM   #95 
        - I humbly agree, it is too much to expect the talking heads to emit factual  AuntPatsy   May-06-07 06:09 PM   #97 
        - Here's a link to the video from ABC of the entire interview.  flpoljunkie   May-06-07 06:24 PM   #98 
           - I am waiting for the transcript. But thanks.  madfloridian   May-06-07 06:26 PM   #99 
              - It will piss you off. Steph really seems to be going after Edwards.  flpoljunkie   May-06-07 06:53 PM   #105 
                 - So is everyone else.  madfloridian   May-06-07 07:01 PM   #107 
                    - Perhaps the powers that be thought at one time that they had him  AuntPatsy   May-06-07 07:06 PM   #109 
                       - I just watched the video,  seasonedblue   May-06-07 07:20 PM   #113 
                       - Most candidates get puff stuff.  madfloridian   May-06-07 07:43 PM   #114 
                          - Well, I would post my opinion,  seasonedblue   May-06-07 08:27 PM   #117 
                          - Not really  karynnj   May-06-07 09:26 PM   #127 
                       - Actually the reason may be simpler and not a conspiracy  karynnj   May-06-07 09:12 PM   #121 
  - Snafi fished his apologies, not his votes Apparently he found some for the 4  The Count   May-06-07 10:05 PM   #130 
  - Should we judge candidates by their words or their actions?  Freddie Stubbs   May-06-07 09:14 PM   #122 
  - Actions speak louder than words do they not?  AuntPatsy   May-06-07 09:16 PM   #125 
  - Actions. Hillary fails as she takes no actions until everyone else has done all the work.  w4rma   May-06-07 10:10 PM   #132 
     - let's see some examples of what you're claiming here  wyldwolf   May-07-07 08:25 AM   #141 
     - Does Edwards have a better voting record than Obama?  Freddie Stubbs   May-07-07 08:26 AM   #142 
  - I will watch the video and judge for myself........  FrenchieCat   May-07-07 02:41 AM   #137 
  - This is why Senators  Marie26   May-07-07 08:24 AM   #140 
 

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