You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Reply #45: Interesting [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
dave_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 01:36 AM
Response to Reply #43
45. Interesting
Fair point as to the succeeding paragraphs: I didn't have them available, otherwise I wouldn't have stated (quite incorrectly) that he didn't discuss the security problem.

I still think he was entirely wrong, though, to praise the decision to go in early and light. We're still living with the consequences of that choice (which was out of his hands). His concerns do seem difficult to reconcile with those comments.

I find it very difficult too to read into his comments about the operation the caution that you suggest: "they certainly made the right call.... Bush & Blair should be proud of their resolve". To me that's a pretty unflinching thumbs-up, when many believed the call was wrong and the resolve a matter for shame.

On WMD, Clark seems to have gone out of his way to cover every possible outcome: only a few months erarlier, he'd declared "There's no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat... Yes, he has chemical and biological weapons. He's had those for a long time". He had no such knowledge. We now know nobody did.

To me the problem is this rather unfocused, often seemingly contradictory manner of covering all the bases. I still find him a somewhat slippery character.

But I thank you for digging out the paragraphs I missed (not intentionally; I don't deliberately distort quotes, as it makes discussing them quite pointless). He did foresee trouble: I'm reassured on that point though still unconvinced on the others.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
  -General Wesley Clark for Secretary of State BOSSHOG  May-04-07 03:19 PM   #0 
  - Absolutely  HockeyMom   May-04-07 03:20 PM   #1 
  - Oh Ya or VP  Monkeyman   May-04-07 03:23 PM   #2 
  - YES!  MaineProgressive   May-07-07 06:35 AM   #49 
  - I'd rather he be President  Texas_Kat   May-04-07 03:23 PM   #3 
  - I'm not counting out him running for president but  BOSSHOG   May-04-07 03:25 PM   #4 
  - I'm afraid you're right. He's really dropped off the radar screen.  Bucky   May-04-07 04:43 PM   #18 
  - Me too. Of course he would also be an excellent S.o.S. but  Tom Rinaldo   May-04-07 04:34 PM   #14 
  - Respectfully Disagree - Secretary of Defense.  Old and In the Way   May-04-07 03:28 PM   #5 
  - WKC can't be SecDef  Texas_Kat   May-04-07 03:33 PM   #6 
  - You type faster than I do, I guess!  SharonRB   May-04-07 03:34 PM   #9 
  - Drat! I knew he had an exclusionary period, but I thought he was out in '98  Old and In the Way   May-04-07 04:05 PM   #12 
  - SecState 1st Term, SecDef 2d Term  win_in_06   May-05-07 07:05 AM   #35 
  - He is ineligible to be Sec. of Defense  SharonRB   May-04-07 03:34 PM   #8 
  - He's still not eligible  Zensea   May-04-07 03:36 PM   #10 
  - I agree!  FitzmasAgain   May-04-07 04:15 PM   #13 
  - I have always thought he would be brilliant in that post.  AtomicKitten   May-04-07 03:34 PM   #7 
  - Condoloser Rice-A-Roni  Parche   May-04-07 03:43 PM   #11 
  - If he's not VP - we lose the election  jcrew2001   May-04-07 04:39 PM   #15 
  - But, but, but.....  FrenchieCat   May-04-07 04:41 PM   #17 
     - J Crew's being silly. He's an asset, but hardly the only Veepable Democrat  Bucky   May-04-07 04:45 PM   #20 
     - By expecting more of the VP  jcrew2001   May-04-07 09:12 PM   #29 
     - The VP IS an incredibly important asset to the ticket  jcrew2001   May-04-07 09:08 PM   #28 
  - If that happens.......  FrenchieCat   May-04-07 04:40 PM   #16 
  - I have always supported Clark for Secretary of State.  MissMarple   May-04-07 04:43 PM   #19 
  - If he doesn't run for president, his present role is just fine.  dogman   May-04-07 04:59 PM   #21 
  - Wes would be a dynamite Sec of State and I think that Hillary might  MasonJar   May-04-07 05:08 PM   #22 
  - Sorry, but none of the above  Donna Zen   May-04-07 07:02 PM   #27 
     - I've heard O'Hanlon speak, and he is in the mold of a Barney Fife "got to sound tough" type.  NCarolinawoman   May-04-07 09:15 PM   #30 
        - Clark has already said he'd get rid of the MIC. He knows what  Auntie Bush   May-06-07 11:12 PM   #41 
  - I can't imagine anyone more qualified for that position.  David Zephyr   May-04-07 05:12 PM   #23 
  - are qualifications for vp higher than for President ?  JI7   May-05-07 04:15 AM   #33 
  - I have been saying this for years! (n/t)  ima_sinnic   May-04-07 05:14 PM   #24 
  - WES CLARK FOR PRESIDENT!!!  WesDem   May-04-07 05:23 PM   #25 
  - Pres!  Progs Rock   May-04-07 05:45 PM   #26 
  - Wes Clark is well-known and respected throughout the world community.  calteacherguy   May-05-07 01:33 AM   #31 
  - President  seasonedblue   May-05-07 01:44 AM   #32 
  - this is an interesting thread  JI7   May-05-07 04:17 AM   #34 
  - Ain't that a kick?  WesDem   May-05-07 08:38 AM   #37 
  - His qualifications are what,  dave_p   May-05-07 07:23 AM   #36 
  - I don't have time to do all your home work for you  Tom Rinaldo   May-05-07 11:14 AM   #38 
     - Unpersuaded  dave_p   May-06-07 08:22 PM   #39 
        - Your effort to trivialize amuses me  Tom Rinaldo   May-06-07 10:47 PM   #40 
        - I'm not trivializing anything  dave_p   May-06-07 11:28 PM   #42 
           - There is nothing in that "snipet" that isn't correct.......  FrenchieCat   May-07-07 12:40 AM   #43 
              - Interesting  dave_p   May-07-07 01:36 AM   #45 
                 - Again, you are taking things out of context, and if you haven't read the entire article.....  FrenchieCat   May-07-07 02:26 AM   #47 
                    - Interesting again  dave_p   May-07-07 07:44 AM   #50 
                       - It has been useful, and I retract my earlier tone toward you  Tom Rinaldo   May-07-07 08:54 AM   #51 
                          - It's been useful for me too  dave_p   May-07-07 09:37 AM   #52 
        - One of the most highly decorated military officer since Eisenhower  Tinksrival   May-07-07 01:04 AM   #44 
           - That's all very well, but ....  dave_p   May-07-07 01:47 AM   #46 
              - But it appears that you have only picked up on the mud that stuck.....  FrenchieCat   May-07-07 02:32 AM   #48 
  - Ideally president  bobbie   May-07-07 11:12 AM   #53 
  - I'd prefer President..  IA_Seth   May-07-07 11:18 AM   #54 
 

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC