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Tue May-01-07 08:14 PM
Response to Reply #54 |
| 157. lol, skewed in favor of the actual results? |
| -Rasmussen Reports: Obama 32%, Clinton 30% |
flpoljunkie |
Apr-30-07 06:58 AM |
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And it's still going to bounce back and forth for at least the next 6 months. |
William769 |
Apr-30-07 07:06 AM |
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Why would you think it will bounce back? |
Dawgs |
Apr-30-07 08:50 AM |
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because it's way way too early |
Enrique |
Apr-30-07 08:55 AM |
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Laws of probability. |
William769 |
Apr-30-07 09:26 AM |
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Trend: Hillary down 7, Obama up 7 since 3/26 with Edwards static at 17%. |
flpoljunkie |
Apr-30-07 09:41 AM |
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And if Hillary beats Obama in 2nd Q fundraising? |
rinsd |
Apr-30-07 12:02 PM |
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To assume these number are because of money is also not wise. |
Dawgs |
Apr-30-07 12:42 PM |
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I am not assuming because of money |
rinsd |
Apr-30-07 12:54 PM |
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Your assumption is still not fact. |
Dawgs |
Apr-30-07 01:01 PM |
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I never claimed it to be fact. |
rinsd |
Apr-30-07 03:13 PM |
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I would say the next eight months |
Enrique |
Apr-30-07 08:54 AM |
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Oh Will, we're DOOMED! |
ronnykmarshall |
Apr-30-07 02:57 PM |
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I doubt Senator Clinton will ever again be the frontrunner. nt |
Clarkie1 |
Apr-30-07 11:42 PM |
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Well for damn sure Weslsy Clark won't be! |
William769 |
May-01-07 04:13 PM |
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Compare Rassmussen and Gallup polls |
Lobster Martini |
Apr-30-07 07:24 AM |
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Like it or not, Rasmussen (a Republican) is historically the best pollster. |
Dawgs |
Apr-30-07 08:51 AM |
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not that I'm disputing that statement... but... |
wyldwolf |
Apr-30-07 09:31 AM |
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So, you think the Republicans are propping up Obama, but not Hillary. |
Dawgs |
Apr-30-07 01:04 PM |
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or the most skewed pollster.... |
tigereye |
Apr-30-07 12:53 PM |
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lol, skewed in favor of the actual results? |
tritsofme |
May-01-07 08:14 PM |
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There is nothing wrong with saying that |
karynnj |
Apr-30-07 09:49 AM |
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Senator Clinton's time as the Democratic frontrunner is over. |
Clarkie1 |
Apr-30-07 11:43 PM |
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She'll be back on top next week |
Katzenkavalier |
May-01-07 12:25 AM |
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LOL. nt |
Clarkie1 |
May-01-07 06:28 PM |
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The further Hillary is away from that top spot, the better I will feel. |
skipos |
Apr-30-07 08:40 AM |
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Remember, it was supposed to be over already thanks to Hillary!'s money |
enough already |
Apr-30-07 09:19 AM |
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Obama better learn how to debate, because he sucks at it. |
William769 |
Apr-30-07 09:27 AM |
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debates never have big impact, but you are correct |
wyldwolf |
Apr-30-07 09:32 AM |
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debates can have an enormous impact |
MonkeyFunk |
Apr-30-07 09:34 AM |
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They can but usually don't |
wyldwolf |
Apr-30-07 09:37 AM |
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There was a relatively large swing in the |
karynnj |
Apr-30-07 11:10 AM |
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not so, and here are the numbers |
wyldwolf |
Apr-30-07 11:30 AM |
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Actually several of the other polls in that source show bigger changes |
karynnj |
Apr-30-07 01:56 PM |
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A good test of this might be... |
SaveElmer |
Apr-30-07 11:58 AM |
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well, since the KOS poll seems to be gospel to some |
wyldwolf |
Apr-30-07 12:16 PM |
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The Kos poll reflects people with Kos logins |
karynnj |
Apr-30-07 02:29 PM |
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I don't have a KOS login and I voted today. But I agree, of course. It is meaningless... |
wyldwolf |
Apr-30-07 02:32 PM |
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Sorry - I have a Kos id |
karynnj |
Apr-30-07 03:00 PM |
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they log IP addresses or set cookies to try and prevent multi-voting |
wyldwolf |
Apr-30-07 03:02 PM |
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well |
MonkeyFunk |
Apr-30-07 12:25 PM |
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sounds suspiciously like a Brady Bunch episode... |
wyldwolf |
Apr-30-07 12:32 PM |
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You're wrong, especially when there are a lot of undecides |
jcrew2001 |
May-01-07 07:06 PM |
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He wasn't great, but I think 'sucks at it' is pretty harsh. |
Dawgs |
Apr-30-07 12:46 PM |
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The only people who ever made that claim |
MonkeyFunk |
Apr-30-07 09:33 AM |
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Obama was solid in the debate--sorry, he held his own just fine and |
wienerdoggie |
Apr-30-07 09:36 AM |
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well there you go because tweety said so. |
William769 |
Apr-30-07 09:43 AM |
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Just saying that there are folks that disagree that Obama didn't |
wienerdoggie |
Apr-30-07 09:51 AM |
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70% of the people polled didn't watch the debate |
Tellurian |
Apr-30-07 12:09 PM |
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Wrong!! 70% of those that polled didn't watch, and therefore weren't included... |
Dawgs |
Apr-30-07 12:49 PM |
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She's blind. |
Katzenkavalier |
Apr-30-07 03:02 PM |
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Did you watch it? He didn't win. Clinton was head and shoulders better. |
churchofreality |
Apr-30-07 10:54 AM |
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Why are we f---- if we chose Obama? |
Katzenkavalier |
Apr-30-07 03:02 PM |
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He can't beat the republican. He will falter on the big stage. |
churchofreality |
May-01-07 12:39 PM |
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Confirmation that Americans are ignorant. Of the three, Edwards is |
mnhtnbb |
Apr-30-07 09:42 AM |
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of the three, Edwards sure talks the most liberal. |
wyldwolf |
Apr-30-07 09:45 AM |
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Is his Senate record the most liberal? n/t |
beachmom |
Apr-30-07 06:07 PM |
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In the Repub match-ups, Edwards STILL the only candidate who beats all comers |
mnhtnbb |
Apr-30-07 09:48 AM |
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Wow, Hillary loses to Fred - thats really terrible |
jcrew2001 |
May-02-07 07:52 PM |
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I really hope Hillary figures out sooner than later that she should stay in the Senate |
mnhtnbb |
Apr-30-07 09:52 AM |
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Good. Hillary is the Lieberman of this race. (nt) |
w4rma |
Apr-30-07 10:20 AM |
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Cite your sources... |
SaveElmer |
Apr-30-07 10:38 AM |
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I won't get into records here, but the polling trends are the same for this period of time. (nt) |
w4rma |
Apr-30-07 10:40 AM |
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Let me get clarification... |
SaveElmer |
Apr-30-07 10:44 AM |
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That makes Edwards or Obama the Howard Dean of this race? |
wyldwolf |
Apr-30-07 10:49 AM |
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I think Obama is the Dean because he's an outsider |
jcrew2001 |
Apr-30-07 04:09 PM |
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I don't think so. I thought Lieberman led EARLY on. Nobody |
beachmom |
Apr-30-07 06:09 PM |
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Jeez, a democrat that never heard of Kerry - how old are you |
jcrew2001 |
May-01-07 12:40 PM |
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If you want to get REAL technical polling wise, Al Gore was the first frontrunner of '04 |
wyldwolf |
May-01-07 02:41 PM |
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hillary needs joe-mentum |
jcrew2001 |
Apr-30-07 04:08 PM |
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It seems noteworthy that Obama and Edwards are at all time highs while HRC is at her lowest ebb |
Tejanocrat |
Apr-30-07 10:30 AM |
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Obama will get destroyed in a general election |
churchofreality |
Apr-30-07 10:53 AM |
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You should back that up. |
MGKrebs |
Apr-30-07 10:58 AM |
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why should he back that up? |
wyldwolf |
Apr-30-07 11:00 AM |
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Clinton loses in the general to Rudy |
jcrew2001 |
Apr-30-07 04:12 PM |
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If the election were last week. |
MGKrebs |
Apr-30-07 06:02 PM |
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How about Clinton is ungrateful to her Donors |
jcrew2001 |
May-01-07 08:49 AM |
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what does you post have to do with backing up assertions? |
wyldwolf |
May-01-07 09:10 AM |
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It backs up that she's a mean oppressive dictator who |
jcrew2001 |
May-01-07 10:56 AM |
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no, it's just spew from you. Your opinion. It does not back up anything but your opinion |
wyldwolf |
May-01-07 10:59 AM |
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Its an unsavory tactic and no American wants to be admonished |
jcrew2001 |
May-01-07 11:13 AM |
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yes, spewing opinions as facts IS an unsavory tactic |
wyldwolf |
May-01-07 11:15 AM |
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So the Loyalty Decree is fictional? |
jcrew2001 |
May-01-07 12:35 PM |
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were were never discussing specifics, but rather, backingup what is asserted |
wyldwolf |
May-01-07 12:38 PM |
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Loyalty Decree = conniving manipulative heavy-handed oppressive behavior |
jcrew2001 |
May-01-07 12:45 PM |
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says jcrew2001, on no one's list of reliable sources but his. |
wyldwolf |
May-01-07 12:46 PM |
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my opinion is backed up by her behavior |
jcrew2001 |
May-01-07 12:50 PM |
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based on your interpretation of it. |
wyldwolf |
May-01-07 12:52 PM |
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my opinion is my interpretation |
jcrew2001 |
May-01-07 12:54 PM |
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well, duh! |
wyldwolf |
May-01-07 12:56 PM |
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She's emulating the Dictator Bush |
jcrew2001 |
May-01-07 03:32 PM |
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wait, hold on... |
wyldwolf |
May-01-07 03:43 PM |
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Obviously, you think its okay for her to behave like Bush |
jcrew2001 |
May-01-07 07:02 PM |
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LOL! Just LOL! |
wyldwolf |
May-01-07 08:07 PM |
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Are you a Republican - cuz only Edwards can win the General Election |
jcrew2001 |
May-02-07 07:49 PM |
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Exactly, it supports my opinion |
jcrew2001 |
May-01-07 12:46 PM |
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uh... yeah... your opinion supports your opinion |
wyldwolf |
May-01-07 12:57 PM |
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Yes, her behavior supports my opinion |
jcrew2001 |
May-01-07 02:30 PM |
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your opinion of her behavior supports your opinion. |
wyldwolf |
May-01-07 02:41 PM |
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what is your opinion of her behavior then? |
jcrew2001 |
May-01-07 03:33 PM |
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I'll back it up. |
churchofreality |
May-01-07 12:43 PM |
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When "Obama has a nineteen-point lead among independents likely to vote in a Democratic primary?" |
flpoljunkie |
Apr-30-07 11:36 AM |
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It is just fun to have some bouncing around in the polling for a change. |
illinoisprogressive |
Apr-30-07 11:15 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Apr-30-07 12:11 PM |
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WOW! You sure told HER! |
ronnykmarshall |
Apr-30-07 03:02 PM |
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ha! Why don't you go and start a factually inaccurate Hillary thread! Wait, you done did. |
wyldwolf |
Apr-30-07 03:16 PM |
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This is the result of being the media darling |
LadyJD |
Apr-30-07 12:17 PM |
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welcome to DU! |
tigereye |
Apr-30-07 12:57 PM |
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Does anyone know what Obama represents? |
Tellurian |
Apr-30-07 12:27 PM |
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well, let's raise a few eyebrows and cause some teeth to gnash |
wyldwolf |
Apr-30-07 12:34 PM |
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Well, I've heard he's plagiarizing Edwards sound bytes.. |
Tellurian |
Apr-30-07 12:39 PM |
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Obama consistently votes as most Democrats want him to vote. |
Dawgs |
Apr-30-07 12:53 PM |
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What's your source? |
ripple |
Apr-30-07 02:03 PM |
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Turn the page, hope is on the way, help is on the way |
karynnj |
Apr-30-07 02:23 PM |
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Most political campaigns have similar slogans |
Katzenkavalier |
Apr-30-07 03:24 PM |
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Actually, Gen. Casey said that phrase, and Kerry would QUOTE |
beachmom |
Apr-30-07 06:15 PM |
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True and thank you |
karynnj |
May-01-07 07:33 AM |
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If "turn the page" belongs to anyone it's Bob Seger. n/t |
beachmom |
Apr-30-07 06:12 PM |
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Oh, Tellurian.......Nice to see you again. |
Kerry2008 |
Apr-30-07 12:50 PM |
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some of this is terrible! |
wyldwolf |
Apr-30-07 12:56 PM |
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Every candidate has things they'll go after. Hillary has her IWR vote for example. |
Kerry2008 |
Apr-30-07 01:03 PM |
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His voting record is no more or no less "Democratic" than Hillary's |
wyldwolf |
Apr-30-07 01:05 PM |
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I don't think I said that, did I? Personally, I see very little difference in Obama and Hillary. |
Kerry2008 |
Apr-30-07 01:08 PM |
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Guess, you're out of the loop as well Kerry 2008 |
Tellurian |
Apr-30-07 01:10 PM |
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Yawn. For all the trash talking that goes on about Hillary, you'd think you wouldn't.... |
Kerry2008 |
Apr-30-07 03:10 PM |
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Well, bless your heart for noticing! (nm) |
Tellurian |
Apr-30-07 03:21 PM |
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Excuse me for observing you come out swinging at Obama when he leads this poll, and not Hillary. |
Kerry2008 |
Apr-30-07 03:27 PM |
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It's called nervousness. |
Katzenkavalier |
Apr-30-07 03:33 PM |
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Actually, it's a breath of fresh air.. ;) |
Tellurian |
Apr-30-07 03:37 PM |
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So What?... I've had to defend Hillary against the remnants of intemperate |
Tellurian |
Apr-30-07 03:36 PM |
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Relax, Tell... let us Obama supporters enjoy this poll |
Katzenkavalier |
Apr-30-07 03:13 PM |
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"Take down the front runner down" not having fun yet? |
Tellurian |
Apr-30-07 03:28 PM |
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It's part of the game. |
Katzenkavalier |
Apr-30-07 03:32 PM |
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So enjoy and be happy |
Tellurian |
Apr-30-07 03:42 PM |
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Yeah, Tell... it's sad that politics |
Katzenkavalier |
Apr-30-07 03:44 PM |
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Yep, accurate observation.. :) |
Tellurian |
Apr-30-07 03:47 PM |
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I disagree. In fact, they both make Obama look pretty good. |
athena |
May-01-07 04:08 PM |
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Nice compilation - thank you for this summary |
karynnj |
Apr-30-07 02:12 PM |
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Obama adding provision that prohibits lobbyists from bundling checks is real reform--as lobbyists |
flpoljunkie |
Apr-30-07 03:00 PM |
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It was the first bill passed in 2007 |
karynnj |
Apr-30-07 03:02 PM |
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As I read the amendment, it does not prohibit but requires disclosure. Feingold sole cosponsor. |
flpoljunkie |
Apr-30-07 03:47 PM |
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You're right - I was going by the NYT article that said it was Obama's |
karynnj |
Apr-30-07 04:29 PM |
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I'm elated! Great, great news, great numbers! |
Katzenkavalier |
Apr-30-07 03:08 PM |
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It seems one Hillary supporter (not naming names) is a bit jealous about these numbers, and... |
Kerry2008 |
Apr-30-07 03:13 PM |
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She needs to relax... :) |
Katzenkavalier |
Apr-30-07 03:14 PM |
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Please take your pop psychology and as Terezza says..Shove IT! |
Tellurian |
Apr-30-07 03:45 PM |
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Take back that spelling of Teresa, goshdarnit! |
beachmom |
Apr-30-07 06:24 PM |
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Why would this idiot do a poll before the debate |
bigdarryl |
Apr-30-07 04:23 PM |
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These are weekly polls, I believe. |
Katzenkavalier |
Apr-30-07 04:33 PM |
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These "idiots" do weekly polling. Next's week's poll will be post debate. Tune in. |
flpoljunkie |
Apr-30-07 04:35 PM |
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Hillary's continuing downward slide. |
illinoisprogressive |
Apr-30-07 04:56 PM |
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wishing does not make it so |
AtomicKitten |
Apr-30-07 06:15 PM |
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oh pulzeaze |
emilyg |
Apr-30-07 11:37 PM |
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Senator Clinton's time as the Democratic frontrunner is over. |
Clarkie1 |
Apr-30-07 11:44 PM |
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Broken record: Hillary has all the resources |
sampsonblk |
May-01-07 12:17 AM |
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That was the original Clinton camp plan, but somehow it doesn't seem to working out. |
flpoljunkie |
May-01-07 08:55 AM |
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Yep, and that's a beautiful thing |
Katzenkavalier |
May-01-07 10:23 AM |
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Nope. |
Oregonian |
May-01-07 10:16 AM |
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I promise not to say I told you so. |
sampsonblk |
May-01-07 03:43 PM |
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Let's bump this |
Katzenkavalier |
May-01-07 06:04 PM |
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I still think Edwards is the only one who can beat the GOP |
jcrew2001 |
May-02-07 01:20 PM |
#158 |