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25. Good. Hillary is the Lieberman of this race. (nt)
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  -Rasmussen Reports: Obama 32%, Clinton 30% flpoljunkie  Apr-30-07 06:58 AM   #0 
  - And it's still going to bounce back and forth for at least the next 6 months.  William769   Apr-30-07 07:06 AM   #1 
  - Why would you think it will bounce back?  Dawgs   Apr-30-07 08:50 AM   #4 
  - because it's way way too early  Enrique   Apr-30-07 08:55 AM   #7 
  - Laws of probability.  William769   Apr-30-07 09:26 AM   #9 
  - Trend: Hillary down 7, Obama up 7 since 3/26 with Edwards static at 17%.  flpoljunkie   Apr-30-07 09:41 AM   #17 
  - And if Hillary beats Obama in 2nd Q fundraising?  rinsd   Apr-30-07 12:02 PM   #40 
     - To assume these number are because of money is also not wise.  Dawgs   Apr-30-07 12:42 PM   #50 
        - I am not assuming because of money  rinsd   Apr-30-07 12:54 PM   #56 
           - Your assumption is still not fact.  Dawgs   Apr-30-07 01:01 PM   #59 
              - I never claimed it to be fact.  rinsd   Apr-30-07 03:13 PM   #82 
  - I would say the next eight months  Enrique   Apr-30-07 08:54 AM   #6 
  - Oh Will, we're DOOMED!  ronnykmarshall   Apr-30-07 02:57 PM   #71 
  - I doubt Senator Clinton will ever again be the frontrunner. nt  Clarkie1   Apr-30-07 11:42 PM   #115 
     - Well for damn sure Weslsy Clark won't be!  William769   May-01-07 04:13 PM   #151 
  - Compare Rassmussen and Gallup polls  Lobster Martini   Apr-30-07 07:24 AM   #2 
  - Like it or not, Rasmussen (a Republican) is historically the best pollster.  Dawgs   Apr-30-07 08:51 AM   #5 
  - not that I'm disputing that statement... but...  wyldwolf   Apr-30-07 09:31 AM   #11 
  - So, you think the Republicans are propping up Obama, but not Hillary.  Dawgs   Apr-30-07 01:04 PM   #61 
  - or the most skewed pollster....  tigereye   Apr-30-07 12:53 PM   #54 
     - lol, skewed in favor of the actual results?  tritsofme   May-01-07 08:14 PM   #157 
  - There is nothing wrong with saying that  karynnj   Apr-30-07 09:49 AM   #22 
  - Senator Clinton's time as the Democratic frontrunner is over.  Clarkie1   Apr-30-07 11:43 PM   #116 
     - She'll be back on top next week  Katzenkavalier   May-01-07 12:25 AM   #119 
        - LOL. nt  Clarkie1   May-01-07 06:28 PM   #153 
  - The further Hillary is away from that top spot, the better I will feel.  skipos   Apr-30-07 08:40 AM   #3 
  - Remember, it was supposed to be over already thanks to Hillary!'s money  enough already   Apr-30-07 09:19 AM   #8 
     - Obama better learn how to debate, because he sucks at it.  William769   Apr-30-07 09:27 AM   #10 
     - debates never have big impact, but you are correct  wyldwolf   Apr-30-07 09:32 AM   #12 
     - debates can have an enormous impact  MonkeyFunk   Apr-30-07 09:34 AM   #14 
        - They can but usually don't  wyldwolf   Apr-30-07 09:37 AM   #16 
           - There was a relatively large swing in the  karynnj   Apr-30-07 11:10 AM   #35 
           - not so, and here are the numbers  wyldwolf   Apr-30-07 11:30 AM   #37 
              - Actually several of the other polls in that source show bigger changes  karynnj   Apr-30-07 01:56 PM   #65 
           - A good test of this might be...  SaveElmer   Apr-30-07 11:58 AM   #39 
           - well, since the KOS poll seems to be gospel to some  wyldwolf   Apr-30-07 12:16 PM   #43 
              - The Kos poll reflects people with Kos logins  karynnj   Apr-30-07 02:29 PM   #69 
                 - I don't have a KOS login and I voted today. But I agree, of course. It is meaningless...  wyldwolf   Apr-30-07 02:32 PM   #70 
                    - Sorry - I have a Kos id  karynnj   Apr-30-07 03:00 PM   #72 
                       - they log IP addresses or set cookies to try and prevent multi-voting  wyldwolf   Apr-30-07 03:02 PM   #75 
           - well  MonkeyFunk   Apr-30-07 12:25 PM   #45 
           - sounds suspiciously like a Brady Bunch episode...  wyldwolf   Apr-30-07 12:32 PM   #47 
           - You're wrong, especially when there are a lot of undecides  jcrew2001   May-01-07 07:06 PM   #155 
     - He wasn't great, but I think 'sucks at it' is pretty harsh.  Dawgs   Apr-30-07 12:46 PM   #51 
     - The only people who ever made that claim  MonkeyFunk   Apr-30-07 09:33 AM   #13 
  - Obama was solid in the debate--sorry, he held his own just fine and  wienerdoggie   Apr-30-07 09:36 AM   #15 
  - well there you go because tweety said so.  William769   Apr-30-07 09:43 AM   #19 
  - Just saying that there are folks that disagree that Obama didn't  wienerdoggie   Apr-30-07 09:51 AM   #23 
     - 70% of the people polled didn't watch the debate  Tellurian   Apr-30-07 12:09 PM   #41 
        - Wrong!! 70% of those that polled didn't watch, and therefore weren't included...  Dawgs   Apr-30-07 12:49 PM   #52 
           - She's blind.  Katzenkavalier   Apr-30-07 03:02 PM   #74 
  - Did you watch it? He didn't win. Clinton was head and shoulders better.  churchofreality   Apr-30-07 10:54 AM   #32 
     - Why are we f---- if we chose Obama?  Katzenkavalier   Apr-30-07 03:02 PM   #76 
        - He can't beat the republican. He will falter on the big stage.  churchofreality   May-01-07 12:39 PM   #132 
  - Confirmation that Americans are ignorant. Of the three, Edwards is  mnhtnbb   Apr-30-07 09:42 AM   #18 
  - of the three, Edwards sure talks the most liberal.  wyldwolf   Apr-30-07 09:45 AM   #20 
  - Is his Senate record the most liberal? n/t  beachmom   Apr-30-07 06:07 PM   #108 
  - In the Repub match-ups, Edwards STILL the only candidate who beats all comers  mnhtnbb   Apr-30-07 09:48 AM   #21 
  - Wow, Hillary loses to Fred - thats really terrible  jcrew2001   May-02-07 07:52 PM   #160 
  - I really hope Hillary figures out sooner than later that she should stay in the Senate  mnhtnbb   Apr-30-07 09:52 AM   #24 
  - Good. Hillary is the Lieberman of this race. (nt)  w4rma   Apr-30-07 10:20 AM   #25 
  - Cite your sources...  SaveElmer   Apr-30-07 10:38 AM   #27 
  - I won't get into records here, but the polling trends are the same for this period of time. (nt)  w4rma   Apr-30-07 10:40 AM   #28 
     - Let me get clarification...  SaveElmer   Apr-30-07 10:44 AM   #29 
  - That makes Edwards or Obama the Howard Dean of this race?  wyldwolf   Apr-30-07 10:49 AM   #30 
  - I think Obama is the Dean because he's an outsider  jcrew2001   Apr-30-07 04:09 PM   #100 
  - I don't think so. I thought Lieberman led EARLY on. Nobody  beachmom   Apr-30-07 06:09 PM   #109 
     - Jeez, a democrat that never heard of Kerry - how old are you  jcrew2001   May-01-07 12:40 PM   #133 
     - If you want to get REAL technical polling wise, Al Gore was the first frontrunner of '04  wyldwolf   May-01-07 02:41 PM   #144 
  - hillary needs joe-mentum  jcrew2001   Apr-30-07 04:08 PM   #99 
  - It seems noteworthy that Obama and Edwards are at all time highs while HRC is at her lowest ebb  Tejanocrat   Apr-30-07 10:30 AM   #26 
  - Obama will get destroyed in a general election  churchofreality   Apr-30-07 10:53 AM   #31 
  - You should back that up.  MGKrebs   Apr-30-07 10:58 AM   #33 
  - why should he back that up?  wyldwolf   Apr-30-07 11:00 AM   #34 
  - Clinton loses in the general to Rudy  jcrew2001   Apr-30-07 04:12 PM   #101 
  - If the election were last week.  MGKrebs   Apr-30-07 06:02 PM   #107 
  - How about Clinton is ungrateful to her Donors  jcrew2001   May-01-07 08:49 AM   #121 
     - what does you post have to do with backing up assertions?  wyldwolf   May-01-07 09:10 AM   #123 
        - It backs up that she's a mean oppressive dictator who  jcrew2001   May-01-07 10:56 AM   #126 
           - no, it's just spew from you. Your opinion. It does not back up anything but your opinion  wyldwolf   May-01-07 10:59 AM   #127 
              - Its an unsavory tactic and no American wants to be admonished  jcrew2001   May-01-07 11:13 AM   #128 
              - yes, spewing opinions as facts IS an unsavory tactic  wyldwolf   May-01-07 11:15 AM   #129 
                 - So the Loyalty Decree is fictional?  jcrew2001   May-01-07 12:35 PM   #130 
                    - were were never discussing specifics, but rather, backingup what is asserted  wyldwolf   May-01-07 12:38 PM   #131 
                       - Loyalty Decree = conniving manipulative heavy-handed oppressive behavior  jcrew2001   May-01-07 12:45 PM   #135 
                          - says jcrew2001, on no one's list of reliable sources but his.  wyldwolf   May-01-07 12:46 PM   #136 
                             - my opinion is backed up by her behavior  jcrew2001   May-01-07 12:50 PM   #138 
                                - based on your interpretation of it.  wyldwolf   May-01-07 12:52 PM   #139 
                                   - my opinion is my interpretation  jcrew2001   May-01-07 12:54 PM   #140 
                                      - well, duh!  wyldwolf   May-01-07 12:56 PM   #141 
                                         - She's emulating the Dictator Bush  jcrew2001   May-01-07 03:32 PM   #146 
                                            - wait, hold on...  wyldwolf   May-01-07 03:43 PM   #149 
                                            - Obviously, you think its okay for her to behave like Bush  jcrew2001   May-01-07 07:02 PM   #154 
                                            - LOL! Just LOL!  wyldwolf   May-01-07 08:07 PM   #156 
                                            - Are you a Republican - cuz only Edwards can win the General Election  jcrew2001   May-02-07 07:49 PM   #159 
              - Exactly, it supports my opinion  jcrew2001   May-01-07 12:46 PM   #137 
                 - uh... yeah... your opinion supports your opinion  wyldwolf   May-01-07 12:57 PM   #142 
                    - Yes, her behavior supports my opinion  jcrew2001   May-01-07 02:30 PM   #143 
                       - your opinion of her behavior supports your opinion.  wyldwolf   May-01-07 02:41 PM   #145 
                          - what is your opinion of her behavior then?  jcrew2001   May-01-07 03:33 PM   #147 
  - I'll back it up.  churchofreality   May-01-07 12:43 PM   #134 
  - When "Obama has a nineteen-point lead among independents likely to vote in a Democratic primary?"  flpoljunkie   Apr-30-07 11:36 AM   #38 
  - It is just fun to have some bouncing around in the polling for a change.  illinoisprogressive   Apr-30-07 11:15 AM   #36 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-30-07 12:11 PM   #42 
  - WOW! You sure told HER!  ronnykmarshall   Apr-30-07 03:02 PM   #78 
  - ha! Why don't you go and start a factually inaccurate Hillary thread! Wait, you done did.  wyldwolf   Apr-30-07 03:16 PM   #85 
  - This is the result of being the media darling  LadyJD   Apr-30-07 12:17 PM   #44 
  - welcome to DU!  tigereye   Apr-30-07 12:57 PM   #58 
  - Does anyone know what Obama represents?  Tellurian   Apr-30-07 12:27 PM   #46 
  - well, let's raise a few eyebrows and cause some teeth to gnash  wyldwolf   Apr-30-07 12:34 PM   #48 
  - Well, I've heard he's plagiarizing Edwards sound bytes..  Tellurian   Apr-30-07 12:39 PM   #49 
     - Obama consistently votes as most Democrats want him to vote.  Dawgs   Apr-30-07 12:53 PM   #55 
     - What's your source?  ripple   Apr-30-07 02:03 PM   #66 
     - Turn the page, hope is on the way, help is on the way  karynnj   Apr-30-07 02:23 PM   #68 
     - Most political campaigns have similar slogans  Katzenkavalier   Apr-30-07 03:24 PM   #87 
     - Actually, Gen. Casey said that phrase, and Kerry would QUOTE  beachmom   Apr-30-07 06:15 PM   #112 
        - True and thank you  karynnj   May-01-07 07:33 AM   #120 
     - If "turn the page" belongs to anyone it's Bob Seger. n/t  beachmom   Apr-30-07 06:12 PM   #110 
  - Oh, Tellurian.......Nice to see you again.  Kerry2008   Apr-30-07 12:50 PM   #53 
     - some of this is terrible!  wyldwolf   Apr-30-07 12:56 PM   #57 
     - Every candidate has things they'll go after. Hillary has her IWR vote for example.  Kerry2008   Apr-30-07 01:03 PM   #60 
     - His voting record is no more or no less "Democratic" than Hillary's  wyldwolf   Apr-30-07 01:05 PM   #62 
     - I don't think I said that, did I? Personally, I see very little difference in Obama and Hillary.  Kerry2008   Apr-30-07 01:08 PM   #63 
     - Guess, you're out of the loop as well Kerry 2008  Tellurian   Apr-30-07 01:10 PM   #64 
        - Yawn. For all the trash talking that goes on about Hillary, you'd think you wouldn't....  Kerry2008   Apr-30-07 03:10 PM   #80 
        - Well, bless your heart for noticing! (nm)  Tellurian   Apr-30-07 03:21 PM   #86 
           - Excuse me for observing you come out swinging at Obama when he leads this poll, and not Hillary.  Kerry2008   Apr-30-07 03:27 PM   #88 
              - It's called nervousness.  Katzenkavalier   Apr-30-07 03:33 PM   #91 
              - Actually, it's a breath of fresh air.. ;)  Tellurian   Apr-30-07 03:37 PM   #93 
              - So What?... I've had to defend Hillary against the remnants of intemperate  Tellurian   Apr-30-07 03:36 PM   #92 
        - Relax, Tell... let us Obama supporters enjoy this poll  Katzenkavalier   Apr-30-07 03:13 PM   #81 
           - "Take down the front runner down" not having fun yet?  Tellurian   Apr-30-07 03:28 PM   #89 
              - It's part of the game.  Katzenkavalier   Apr-30-07 03:32 PM   #90 
                 - So enjoy and be happy  Tellurian   Apr-30-07 03:42 PM   #94 
                    - Yeah, Tell... it's sad that politics  Katzenkavalier   Apr-30-07 03:44 PM   #95 
                       - Yep, accurate observation.. :)  Tellurian   Apr-30-07 03:47 PM   #98 
     - I disagree. In fact, they both make Obama look pretty good.  athena   May-01-07 04:08 PM   #150 
     - Nice compilation - thank you for this summary  karynnj   Apr-30-07 02:12 PM   #67 
        - Obama adding provision that prohibits lobbyists from bundling checks is real reform--as lobbyists  flpoljunkie   Apr-30-07 03:00 PM   #73 
           - It was the first bill passed in 2007  karynnj   Apr-30-07 03:02 PM   #77 
              - As I read the amendment, it does not prohibit but requires disclosure. Feingold sole cosponsor.  flpoljunkie   Apr-30-07 03:47 PM   #97 
                 - You're right - I was going by the NYT article that said it was Obama's  karynnj   Apr-30-07 04:29 PM   #103 
  - I'm elated! Great, great news, great numbers!  Katzenkavalier   Apr-30-07 03:08 PM   #79 
  - It seems one Hillary supporter (not naming names) is a bit jealous about these numbers, and...  Kerry2008   Apr-30-07 03:13 PM   #83 
  - She needs to relax... :)  Katzenkavalier   Apr-30-07 03:14 PM   #84 
  - Please take your pop psychology and as Terezza says..Shove IT!  Tellurian   Apr-30-07 03:45 PM   #96 
     - Take back that spelling of Teresa, goshdarnit!  beachmom   Apr-30-07 06:24 PM   #113 
  - Why would this idiot do a poll before the debate  bigdarryl   Apr-30-07 04:23 PM   #102 
  - These are weekly polls, I believe.  Katzenkavalier   Apr-30-07 04:33 PM   #104 
  - These "idiots" do weekly polling. Next's week's poll will be post debate. Tune in.  flpoljunkie   Apr-30-07 04:35 PM   #105 
  - Hillary's continuing downward slide.  illinoisprogressive   Apr-30-07 04:56 PM   #106 
  - wishing does not make it so  AtomicKitten   Apr-30-07 06:15 PM   #111 
  - oh pulzeaze  emilyg   Apr-30-07 11:37 PM   #114 
  - Senator Clinton's time as the Democratic frontrunner is over.  Clarkie1   Apr-30-07 11:44 PM   #117 
  - Broken record: Hillary has all the resources  sampsonblk   May-01-07 12:17 AM   #118 
  - That was the original Clinton camp plan, but somehow it doesn't seem to working out.  flpoljunkie   May-01-07 08:55 AM   #122 
  - Yep, and that's a beautiful thing  Katzenkavalier   May-01-07 10:23 AM   #125 
  - Nope.  Oregonian   May-01-07 10:16 AM   #124 
     - I promise not to say I told you so.  sampsonblk   May-01-07 03:43 PM   #148 
        - Let's bump this  Katzenkavalier   May-01-07 06:04 PM   #152 
  - I still think Edwards is the only one who can beat the GOP  jcrew2001   May-02-07 01:20 PM   #158 
 

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