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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-12-07 11:33 AM
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15. What kind of complete moron
makes Hawkish statements like this:

“At the top of these threats is Iran. Iran threatens the security of Israel and the entire world. Let me be clear: Under no circumstances can Iran be allowed to have nuclear weapons. For years, the US hasn’t done enough to deal with what I have seen as a threat from Iran. As my country stayed on the sidelines, these problems got worse. To a large extent, the US abdicated its responsibility to the Europeans. This was a mistake. The Iranian president’s statements such as his description of the Holocaust as a myth and his goals to wipe Israel off the map indicate that Iran is serious about its threats.

Snip> Iran must know that the world won’t back down. The recent UN resolution ordering Iran to halt the enrichment of uranium was not enough. We need meaningful political and economic sanctions. We have muddled along for far too long. To ensure that Iran never gets nuclear weapons, we need to keep ALL options on the table, Let me reiterate – ALL options must remain on the table.

Snip> While Iran is the greatest threat now, but just as alarming is the one on your doorstep. Hamas, with Iranian support, doesn’t make any mistake of its intentions to wipe out Israel, and repeatedly makes calls to raise the banner of Allah over all of Israel. Israel made many concessions. Many settlers gave up there land in order to advance peace.

Snip> For too long, the current US administration’s commitment to this issue has been halfhearted. Now, on the backdrop of Iraq, they have tried to bring the two sides together. This is especially significant since they have squandered America’s moral authority in the Middle East and around the world.

We should be finding ways to upgrade Israel’s relationship with NATO. This could even some day mean membership. NATO’s mission now goes far beyond just Europe. Therefore, it is only natural that NATO seeks to include Israel.

Your challenges are our challenges. Your future is our future. The US will continue to stand by you. God bless you.”

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  - The "awful truth" - how quaint  DancingBear   Apr-12-07 05:13 PM   #23 
     - but not as good as the "I hate Democrats" meme at counterpunch  wyldwolf   Apr-12-07 05:22 PM   #24 
        - What a world you live in  DancingBear   Apr-12-07 07:55 PM   #38 
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                       - Factual inaccuracies  wyldwolf   Apr-13-07 07:33 AM   #52 
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  - And, yet, Edwards is considered so "liberal" by many on this blog.  Clark2008   Apr-12-07 11:13 AM   #7 
  - Don't you have a Fred Thompson thread to promote?  wienerdoggie   Apr-12-07 11:23 AM   #11 
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  - Not by liberals.  Le Taz Hot   Apr-13-07 09:41 AM   #55 
     - not by "progressives." By the liberal standard set in the FDR/Truman/Kennedy days...  wyldwolf   Apr-13-07 09:46 AM   #56 
  - How is being flexible and open-minded "not liberal?"  ClassWarrior   Apr-12-07 06:27 PM   #30 
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     - THANK YOU!  Josh   Apr-12-07 07:59 PM   #40 
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  - Well since two of the three front runners  seasonedblue   Apr-12-07 11:23 AM   #12 
  - My question: What kind of complete moron  JNelson6563   Apr-12-07 11:16 AM   #8 
  - Bingo.  wienerdoggie   Apr-12-07 11:26 AM   #13 
  - You beat me to it. Thanks, Julie.  LandOLincoln   Apr-12-07 11:27 AM   #14 
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  - Ah, the old side step  JNelson6563   Apr-12-07 04:28 PM   #17 
     - Statements about "all options"  seasonedblue   Apr-12-07 06:03 PM   #25 
        - Did you just say...  ClassWarrior   Apr-12-07 06:39 PM   #32 
        - ?  seasonedblue   Apr-12-07 07:02 PM   #33 
        - Most people understood what Edwards intended by  seasonedblue   Apr-12-07 07:07 PM   #34 
           - Well, most people with a magic mind ray, at any rate.  ClassWarrior   Apr-12-07 07:11 PM   #36 
              - And some people with critical thinking skills:  seasonedblue   Apr-12-07 07:38 PM   #37 
        - Why are you talking about Edwards?  JNelson6563   Apr-13-07 05:46 AM   #45 
  - We need to define this more clearly  SOS   Apr-12-07 12:02 PM   #16 
  - Agreed  JNelson6563   Apr-12-07 04:30 PM   #18 
  - Good post.  Katzenkavalier   Apr-12-07 04:34 PM   #20 
  - "Keeping options open" doesn't seem so awful.  Tejanocrat   Apr-12-07 04:37 PM   #21 
  - I think it might be just a pinch more complex than you paint it.  Old Crusoe   Apr-12-07 05:12 PM   #22 
  - Iran + Nuclear Weapons = A Bad Situation....right? So shouldn't we have all the options  renie408   Apr-12-07 06:19 PM   #27 
  - So you want a President who is stubborn, obstinate, and...  ClassWarrior   Apr-12-07 06:20 PM   #28 
  - Yeah...Options are good. n/t  renie408   Apr-12-07 06:25 PM   #29 
  - Creating a straw man and then attacking it...how original...  ddeclue   Apr-12-07 06:39 PM   #31 
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           - Wow, two of the same replies  DancingBear   Apr-13-07 07:31 AM   #51 
              - two sets of facts  wyldwolf   Apr-13-07 07:34 AM   #53 
                 - You forgot your quotation marks...  AZBlue   Apr-13-07 10:54 PM   #57 
 

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