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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-09-07 12:15 PM
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60. Nope, I can't change speculation. You also can't make it the truth, so stop spewing it. n/t
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  -Hillary supporter Hilary Rosen belittles Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, and Dems on SFRC on MSNBC Tucker beachmom  Apr-07-07 09:53 PM   #0 
  - Hilary Rosen, Ex-head of the RIAA, is that who you mean?  habitual   Apr-07-07 09:58 PM   #1 
  - Yes, that's her  Ignacio Upton   Apr-07-07 10:11 PM   #4 
  - It's like Greffen supporting Obama - you don't want him interviewed - as to the  papau   Apr-07-07 10:29 PM   #8 
     - Not to get catty here, but since Hillary attacked Geffen, well then:  beachmom   Apr-07-07 10:35 PM   #9 
        - :-) no problem as to catty - and of course Obama was on the right side on this n/t  papau   Apr-08-07 10:19 PM   #19 
  - Gee, what was that about teaching Dems to fight back  TayTay   Apr-07-07 10:00 PM   #2 
  - Rosen the Clintonista - oh, yes, agree with conservatives and trianglulate  illinoisprogressive   Apr-07-07 10:01 PM   #3 
  - I wonder why Bill was so eager to sign the DMCA  Ignacio Upton   Apr-07-07 10:11 PM   #5 
  - Ah! I didn't think about that  fujiyama   Apr-09-07 06:29 PM   #87 
  - Excellent summary  JNelson6563   Apr-09-07 09:16 AM   #26 
  - I missed Tucker's introduction of Rosen, so when I heard what she said, I thought she was GOP  IndianaGreen   Apr-07-07 10:12 PM   #6 
  - notice you usually don't know whether the "Dem" pundit is a Dem  JI7   Apr-08-07 08:52 PM   #16 
  - Hilary Rosen is disgusting  karynnj   Apr-07-07 10:15 PM   #7 
  - She disgusted me. I couldn't believe my ears.  fooj   Apr-07-07 10:54 PM   #10 
  - here Rosen stuck up for John Kerry  AtomicKitten   Apr-07-07 11:03 PM   #11 
  - Because those pundits have audiences and we're working to change those pundits  w4rma   Apr-07-07 11:11 PM   #12 
  - And the TELEVISED PUNDIT should stick to the staements released by DNC and Dean  blm   Apr-09-07 08:54 AM   #20 
  - That was from October 2004 in the heat of an election only weeks  beachmom   Apr-08-07 07:21 PM   #14 
     - I do understand your dismay.  AtomicKitten   Apr-08-07 09:21 PM   #17 
  - Back Away from the TV. Do NOT watch Tucker Carlson. There's no point to it.  Demoiselle   Apr-07-07 11:22 PM   #13 
  - Great post, beachmom. We definitely need new spokespeople, and I'll  babylonsister   Apr-08-07 07:33 PM   #15 
  - We need to appeal to Dean. We need people to back up the DNC when it issues  blm   Apr-09-07 10:20 AM   #35 
  - So what are you saying? That it's Clinton's fault cuz a supporter of hers dissed Kerry & Pelosi?  mtnsnake   Apr-08-07 09:56 PM   #18 
  - This is only latest in a pattern. Here's historian Douglas Brinkley from April 2004:  blm   Apr-09-07 08:59 AM   #21 
  - Of for crying out loud I should've known better than to ask!  mtnsnake   Apr-09-07 09:08 AM   #22 
  - Did he make it up? Did Greider make up his observations about Hillary2008 in 2003?  blm   Apr-09-07 09:58 AM   #28 
  - People aren't going to hate Bill Clinton just because you want them to.  mtnsnake   Apr-09-07 10:19 AM   #34 
     - The point isn't to hate Clinton - it's to note that he's too friendly with Poppy Bush  blm   Apr-09-07 10:22 AM   #37 
        - So your constant anti-Clinton rhetoric & inneuendo is to get people to like the Clintons? lol  mtnsnake   Apr-09-07 10:28 AM   #39 
           - No.. I want them to notice Clinton made a huge mistake in letting Bush off the hook  blm   Apr-09-07 11:37 AM   #53 
              - Then why dont you start stating it that way instead of painting the Clintons as near criminals  mtnsnake   Apr-09-07 11:49 AM   #56 
                 - I have called every situation as it deserves.  blm   Apr-09-07 11:58 AM   #57 
  - There is a big difference between stabbing a fellow Dem in the back,  beachmom   Apr-09-07 01:26 PM   #67 
  - Very instructive--Brinkley's remark about the two different Democratic parties.  flpoljunkie   Apr-09-07 09:09 AM   #23 
     - Instructive? Try divisive.  mtnsnake   Apr-09-07 09:11 AM   #24 
     - You are angry that it is posted, but not disturbed in a historian's observations  blm   Apr-09-07 09:55 AM   #27 
        - Clintons aren't the ones being divisive here.  mtnsnake   Apr-09-07 10:06 AM   #29 
           - Hillary? Goddess of Peace?  Nedsdag   Apr-09-07 10:17 AM   #32 
              - Joke? Heck no!  mtnsnake   Apr-09-07 10:58 AM   #43 
                 - Okaaaaaaay!  Nedsdag   Apr-09-07 01:01 PM   #64 
                 - or Diana, the the moon goddess, the huntress -  karynnj   Apr-09-07 10:11 PM   #90 
                    - "the moon goddess"  mtnsnake   Apr-09-07 11:52 PM   #91 
     - Long before Brinkley said this, I heard that it was the Clinton Dems vs Kennedy Dems  blm   Apr-09-07 09:12 AM   #25 
        - Yeah & I heard if Kerry had his way it would've been Kerry/McCain vs Bush/Cheney  mtnsnake   Apr-09-07 10:10 AM   #31 
           - Damn that Tom Daschle for trying to get McCain to switch parties in 2001.  blm   Apr-09-07 10:17 AM   #33 
              - Nice try at attempting to put your rhetoric in my mouth  mtnsnake   Apr-09-07 10:26 AM   #38 
              - Is this the only thing you have to bring to a debate, mtnsnake?  Kerry2008   Apr-09-07 10:41 AM   #41 
                 - Maybe you should worry about the lies hurled at the Clintons  mtnsnake   Apr-09-07 10:51 AM   #42 
                    - Pundits repeating a RW rumor - gee, now that's reliable.  blm   Apr-09-07 11:03 AM   #44 
                    - In that post, I wasn't talking about you in particular  mtnsnake   Apr-09-07 11:07 AM   #46 
                    - You know I stand against the lies spewed towards Hillary.  Kerry2008   Apr-09-07 11:04 AM   #45 
                    - Instead of accusing me of lying, something I've never done, accuse the authors  mtnsnake   Apr-09-07 11:11 AM   #47 
                       - Those same sources repeated the lie that Clintons trashed the WH, but that doesn't make it true.  blm   Apr-09-07 11:19 AM   #48 
                       - and just because things are often repeated about the Clintons here, it doesn't make it true either.  mtnsnake   Apr-09-07 11:21 AM   #49 
                          - Big difference. Rove's lies against Clinton don't deserve repeating. Facts from real journalists  blm   Apr-09-07 11:32 AM   #52 
                             - I'm the one who wants voices of honesty shut down??  mtnsnake   Apr-09-07 11:44 AM   #55 
                       - If you believe lies, that's your own error of judgment.  Kerry2008   Apr-09-07 11:23 AM   #50 
                          - That's where you're wrong..  mtnsnake   Apr-09-07 11:42 AM   #54 
                             - Court is wrong. Kerry considered it possible back in 2001 IF McCain switched to Dem party.  blm   Apr-09-07 12:04 PM   #58 
                                - It was also widely speculated upon in 2004 by Democrats as well as Republicans  mtnsnake   Apr-09-07 12:10 PM   #59 
                                   - Nope, I can't change speculation. You also can't make it the truth, so stop spewing it. n/t  Kerry2008   Apr-09-07 12:15 PM   #60 
                                   - Read posts 69 and 75 and then get back to me. nt  mtnsnake   Apr-09-07 03:33 PM   #82 
                                   - And speculation among some who heard RW talking points deserves repeating now?  blm   Apr-09-07 12:19 PM   #61 
                                      - ...and selective criticism is also "a standard peculiar to few here at DU" nt  mtnsnake   Apr-09-07 12:28 PM   #63 
                    - Here is what Kerry said last week which I hope will put this to rest:  beachmom   Apr-09-07 01:40 PM   #69 
                       - The timeframe was when McCain was 'thinking' about switching which was in 2001.  blm   Apr-09-07 02:01 PM   #74 
                       - No, it was '04 that he was talking about. Here was Tavis's first question:  beachmom   Apr-09-07 02:05 PM   #75 
                          - the timeframe is never established beyond when Mccain was thinking about switching parties, and  blm   Apr-09-07 02:44 PM   #77 
                             - No sense trying to re-write history anymore, blm.  mtnsnake   Apr-09-07 03:15 PM   #79 
                             - No, on MYDD when Kerry came out with the bombshell that  beachmom   Apr-09-07 06:21 PM   #86 
                                - The two stories do intersect - I understand how you make your conclusion, but I still read it  blm   Apr-09-07 07:05 PM   #88 
                       - Thank you beachmom. That backs up everything I've been saying.  mtnsnake   Apr-09-07 03:08 PM   #78 
              - Um, BLM -- did you watch Tavis Smiley?  beachmom   Apr-09-07 01:31 PM   #68 
                 - don't get why this is a big deal, really  AtomicKitten   Apr-09-07 03:43 PM   #83 
  - I don't know -- what do you think? Geffen was merely an Obama  beachmom   Apr-09-07 01:19 PM   #66 
     - Granted, what's good for the goose is good ofr the gander  mtnsnake   Apr-09-07 03:20 PM   #81 
  - guilt by association?  paulk   Apr-09-07 10:10 AM   #30 
  - So, Rosen was right to criticize Pelosi (and Kerry).  Mass   Apr-09-07 10:21 AM   #36 
  - "Hillary supporter Hilary Rosen "  paulk   Apr-09-07 10:37 AM   #40 
     - She is a Hillary supporter and is frequently introduced that way on Tucker  beachmom   Apr-09-07 01:50 PM   #71 
        - she was not introduced as a "Hillary supporter" on this particular  paulk   Apr-09-07 05:25 PM   #84 
           - Thanks for the link, paulk. Very interesting indeed.  beachmom   Apr-09-07 06:14 PM   #85 
  - Well - when I look in the mirror, what I don't see is a 'coincidence theorist'  blm   Apr-09-07 11:24 AM   #51 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-09-07 01:08 PM   #65 
        - Because you only know my posts from AFTER I read Clinton's book and have no clue  blm   Apr-09-07 01:47 PM   #70 
        - your "interesting" way of assimilating information and forming an opinion  AtomicKitten   Apr-09-07 01:54 PM   #73 
           - Funny how you attack me instead of the reporters you can't refute.  blm   Apr-09-07 02:06 PM   #76 
              - you're not interested in refutation  AtomicKitten   Apr-09-07 03:17 PM   #80 
        - I see people like you  zidzi   Apr-09-07 07:22 PM   #89 
  - With friends like this, we don't need enemies  Jack Rabbit   Apr-09-07 12:20 PM   #62 
  - This goes to the heart of the matter  karynnj   Apr-10-07 08:02 AM   #95 
  - Criticizing Pelosi, there's the giveaway.  Canuckistanian   Apr-09-07 01:51 PM   #72 
  - So the US Navy didn't give Kerry his medals - he gave them to himself? WOW!  Major Hogwash   Apr-10-07 12:48 AM   #92 
  - Ms. Rosen's comments will be used against Kerry during his re-election next year.  Major Hogwash   Apr-10-07 02:37 AM   #93 
     - Exactly -  karynnj   Apr-10-07 07:53 AM   #94 
 

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