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lizbitchwitchy Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 05:12 PM
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56. I honestly don't think Bush cares too much
What this looks like for him. He has no shame and he never cared before what a fool and a liar he looked like. Now that his term is almost up and he is a lame duck - and the republicans are hardly down his throat anymore since the midterm elections are over - why should he care what anyone thinks about him.

The idea is that Congress - without a super majority has only one way of ending this war - They have the power of the purse - and they can hold up this funding bill or not even pass one in Congress and the Senate can not introduce an appropriations bill (only ammend and vote on one). So they have a responsibility to end the war. The only way for them to end the war is by de-funding it (if that is even a word) - So do it.

If the president is lame enough to leave the troops over there without a way out of there - then - Congress can pass a bill soley for their redeployment. Otherwise they are supporting this war.

The Dems have in no way set up the situation so they are in a win/win - How do you figure? The Dems claim to want to end the war. They aren't doing it. That is a lose/lose to me.

Furthermore the Dems have added stipulations to this appropriations bill which mean absolutely nothing. The call for 3 exceptions for redeployment from Iraq
1) to continue safeguarding american forces and their interests
2) To continue killing, targetting and dismantling terrorists and the terrorist groups
3) to continue training Iraqi forces

I want to believe them as much as anyone here does. It totally sucks to realize that you have been lied to and decieved by your own freakin party - but I am sorry to say nobody has pointed out one thing which proves otherwise. I would love it if someone could do just that - it would definately help me with the lost hope I feel. I totally believe we need to scrutinize our party to ensure that they are not falling by the side of the road like the GOP and so far they aren't looking too good.

Although I believe that impeachment is more complicated and will have longer reaching effects that many of us (including me) pro-impeachment types care to consider - (nonetheless, I am still in total belief that impeachment is the only right thing to do and is the only way to show the rest of the world that we care and are not indifferent to the suffering they have endured due to these blood suckers and their greed) but this funding bill is pretty simple in comparison. - and they are truley not as dumb as they are pretending to be - or maybe it's that they just believe so whole heartedly that we are as dumb as the rest of the world thinks we are - and that is why they are doing this. I refuse to be one of their dumbed down stereotypical Americans just because it is more comfortable and more people like you when you are going with the flow and validating their own support by being part of the same thing.

The truth is the truth - They are funding a war and they are not putting restrictions on him of any significant value - nor are they all that concerned with the bloodshed in Iraq - People are dying - blood is spilling - keep your eye on the bloodshed people. That is all I can say.

I am glad to hear that you are scrutinizing your candadites - it's the responsible thing to do, as you know.

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