John Q. Citizen
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Fri Apr-06-07 02:53 AM
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| 6. I guess some candidates are above reproach. Sorry if I've bashed him in anyway. |
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I'm sure the families of the dead and maimed understand....
In fact, they probably support the bush administration's tack ons to thier supplementals.
His voting record, after all, does come first. And his image as an anti-war candidate.
Setting a good example didn't really become an issue until he declared anyway.
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| -If Obama opposed the war from the start, why did he repeatedly vote to fund the war? |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-06-07 01:46 AM |
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He dosen't support the war |
Rusty MacHenry |
Apr-06-07 01:49 AM |
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No. His vote against the funding wouldn't have kept any of the bills from passing. |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-06-07 01:58 AM |
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At NO time did he ever say that |
sampsonblk |
Apr-07-07 02:05 PM |
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Because he's not insane |
sandnsea |
Apr-06-07 01:51 AM |
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Was it Einstein who said doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-06-07 02:06 AM |
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Why would he vote no |
sandnsea |
Apr-06-07 02:35 AM |
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I guess some candidates are above reproach. Sorry if I've bashed him in anyway. |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-06-07 02:53 AM |
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I'm sure the families did |
sandnsea |
Apr-06-07 03:02 AM |
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John Q.Ciizen |
lizbitchwitchy |
Apr-06-07 01:11 PM |
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LOL. why is this the constant mantra of the loon |
rinsd |
Apr-06-07 02:00 PM |
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Real classy restaurant you got there rinsd. |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-06-07 02:14 PM |
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Sorry, my slighting of Lampchop bothered you. |
rinsd |
Apr-06-07 02:25 PM |
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Ah, another day another windmill. |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-06-07 02:54 PM |
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Thanks for your kind words. |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-06-07 02:05 PM |
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I was hopeful there for a minute |
lizbitchwitchy |
Apr-06-07 02:27 PM |
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What were the other items on the bill? |
lizbitchwitchy |
Apr-06-07 04:09 AM |
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This is BS.Another example of anti Dem propaganda! |
saracat |
Apr-06-07 05:46 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Apr-06-07 05:51 AM |
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They deleted my last message |
lizbitchwitchy |
Apr-06-07 02:02 PM |
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Libbitchwitchy, It isn't that simple and Bush WILL veto this Bill. He has NO choice. |
saracat |
Apr-06-07 02:51 PM |
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I honestly don't think Bush cares too much |
lizbitchwitchy |
Apr-06-07 05:12 PM |
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Lizbitchwitchy, you have an interesting point of view but I cannot agree. |
saracat |
Apr-06-07 05:56 PM |
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I understand your argument. In my mind anyway, if the dems wanted to truly end this war, they |
IsItJustMe |
Apr-06-07 10:49 PM |
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Because nobody believed it would be necessary... |
sampsonblk |
Apr-07-07 02:07 PM |
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Because he lives in the real world and not la la land. |
Connie_Corleone |
Apr-06-07 06:50 AM |
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Just to piss you off. |
ripple |
Apr-06-07 01:22 PM |
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Yet 3 years later many more are dead and injured than in 1995, when he cast his first vote to fund |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-06-07 01:39 PM |
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1995? |
ripple |
Apr-06-07 01:55 PM |
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I think it is more of an effort |
AtomicKitten |
Apr-06-07 02:14 PM |
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Yes W, asked for money to provide for the troops and Obama complied. |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-06-07 02:41 PM |
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it is unfortunate you view it that way |
AtomicKitten |
Apr-06-07 03:01 PM |
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Your rationalization of him as an anti-war candidate is related to your |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-06-07 03:35 PM |
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hero worship? really? |
AtomicKitten |
Apr-06-07 03:55 PM |
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OoH, now I'm scared. Hero worship is a dangerous thing., obviously. |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-06-07 04:27 PM |
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just between you and me |
AtomicKitten |
Apr-06-07 09:52 PM |
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If Gore gets in he's got my vote! n/t |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-07-07 01:56 PM |
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the brilliance of a Gore candidacy |
AtomicKitten |
Apr-07-07 03:36 PM |
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Yes, and beyond. |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-07-07 03:47 PM |
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We are all on the same side here |
lizbitchwitchy |
Apr-07-07 02:24 AM |
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You're trivializing Obama's appeal by attributing his success to his good looks & charisma |
mtnsnake |
Apr-06-07 04:18 PM |
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Great post for lots of reasons. |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-06-07 04:33 PM |
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Good point, I can't help but wonder |
ripple |
Apr-06-07 02:44 PM |
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it is a double-edge sword indeed |
AtomicKitten |
Apr-06-07 02:56 PM |
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The point is |
lizbitchwitchy |
Apr-07-07 02:27 AM |
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too simplistic an analysis/solution |
AtomicKitten |
Apr-07-07 07:43 AM |
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If funding the war is opposing it in your mind then , hey, it takes all kinds. |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-06-07 02:31 PM |
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if I might interject |
AtomicKitten |
Apr-06-07 02:48 PM |
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No, Dennis is not suggest that. Read HR 1234. |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-06-07 03:16 PM |
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One could take Kucinich's personal political courage a bit more seriously if he |
NYCGirl |
Apr-06-07 03:24 PM |
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wowie wow wow |
AtomicKitten |
Apr-06-07 03:41 PM |
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Hey, a good looking candidate is always a plus. Lot of people vote based |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-06-07 04:20 PM |
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I respect your work for the Democratic Party. |
AtomicKitten |
Apr-06-07 09:58 PM |
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oh please.... |
earthlover |
Apr-06-07 11:41 PM |
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Many state legislatures have passed or attempted to pass resolutions, |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-07-07 01:18 PM |
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There most certainly is a conflict of interest |
lizbitchwitchy |
Apr-07-07 02:43 AM |
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I disagree. |
AtomicKitten |
Apr-07-07 08:05 AM |
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Stand up to WHAT in 1995? |
ripple |
Apr-06-07 03:03 PM |
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Ohh, ouch! Obama voted to fund the war since he took office in Jan 1995. |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-06-07 04:44 PM |
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Lieberman was never Obama's mentor |
ripple |
Apr-06-07 06:10 PM |
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Please see post #64. Thanks |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-07-07 01:42 PM |
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Double ouch. 2005. |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-06-07 05:50 PM |
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This kind of reasoning gets into the realm of goofy. You can be opposed |
wienerdoggie |
Apr-06-07 01:57 PM |
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reasoning of the goofy |
lizbitchwitchy |
Apr-06-07 02:08 PM |
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Oh, Lordy, let's limit this to the discussion at hand. Obama was right |
wienerdoggie |
Apr-06-07 02:27 PM |
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If you say so |
lizbitchwitchy |
Apr-06-07 02:34 PM |
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Nice 'tude |
rinsd |
Apr-06-07 02:33 PM |
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truth has a way |
lizbitchwitchy |
Apr-06-07 02:38 PM |
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It's not always truth that gets people kicked off boards |
ellacott |
Apr-06-07 02:46 PM |
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Well first I would stop calling your opinion the truth. |
rinsd |
Apr-06-07 03:09 PM |
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george asked for money to support the troops. Obama complied with the |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-06-07 02:52 PM |
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Because he is a responsible legiislator...not a grandstander... |
SaveElmer |
Apr-06-07 02:50 PM |
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Exactly. |
Kerry2008 |
Apr-06-07 04:31 PM |
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Yeah, just give george the money and try to forget about the people dying. |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-06-07 05:13 PM |
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This is laughable. |
Kerry2008 |
Apr-06-07 06:05 PM |
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Ok, I get it. It's bush's fault that Obama keeps voting to fund the war. Boy that |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-06-07 06:32 PM |
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I haven't seen any legislation |
lizbitchwitchy |
Apr-07-07 02:49 AM |
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Here's some legislation (these are only Obama as sponsor, not co-sponsor): |
NYCGirl |
Apr-07-07 09:22 AM |
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Now that's only if you consider voting funds to kill around 1,000000 Iraqis as being responsible. |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-06-07 05:05 PM |
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Dennis Kucinich or Jim Webb...who to trust...hmmmm... |
SaveElmer |
Apr-06-07 05:16 PM |
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Hey, I have a "spiritual connection" to Jim Webb. Late on election night I was |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-06-07 05:38 PM |
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I live in Virginia... |
SaveElmer |
Apr-06-07 05:41 PM |
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Good for you! We kicked some Burns and Allen ass, didn't we? |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-06-07 05:44 PM |
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Maybe because he's ALWAYS been pro-choice... |
zulchzulu |
Apr-06-07 04:34 PM |
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Like Obama said, he doesn't trust playing chicken with the Administration on funding. |
Kerry2008 |
Apr-06-07 05:01 PM |
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Ah, the truth hurts. He's a serial voter to fund the war. Ask him. Google |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-06-07 05:24 PM |
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What bullshit. Can we stop spreading lies? |
Kerry2008 |
Apr-06-07 06:00 PM |
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Ok, you don't have to hold it against him, I don't care, but it's not a lie that |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-06-07 06:16 PM |
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Listen...it's not just a black and white binary bumpersticker reality |
zulchzulu |
Apr-06-07 07:27 PM |
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Don't you already have a thread on this? |
Radical Activist |
Apr-06-07 05:39 PM |
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Kucinich supporters see a threat in Obama for the anti-war vote. |
Kerry2008 |
Apr-06-07 06:18 PM |
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How many Candidates that you dislike.. have you sent money to? |
sellitman |
Apr-06-07 07:57 PM |
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He does not support the War |
Ethelk2044 |
Apr-06-07 05:58 PM |
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Abraham Lincoln opposed America's landrobbing war with Mexico |
David Zephyr |
Apr-06-07 06:00 PM |
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...and he SAID so publicly. Out loud! |
sampsonblk |
Apr-07-07 02:09 PM |
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John, as an avid Obama fan, I hate to tell you this, but you have a point |
mtnsnake |
Apr-06-07 08:38 PM |
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The truth is the truth and you just spoke it. It is what it is folks. |
IsItJustMe |
Apr-06-07 11:15 PM |
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He is different |
Ethelk2044 |
Apr-07-07 01:07 PM |
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Thanks for your candor and honesty. |
John Q. Citizen |
Apr-07-07 01:39 PM |
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What bologna. Kucinich the only consistent voice against the war, my ass. |
Kerry2008 |
Apr-07-07 04:27 PM |
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I'll take a stab at this |
wyldwolf |
Apr-07-07 08:16 AM |
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Since you're a Clinton supporter you might want to consider this |
mtnsnake |
Apr-07-07 08:34 AM |
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I agree with you points 100% - but Obama is a politician |
wyldwolf |
Apr-07-07 08:39 AM |
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Russ Fiengold... |
elizm |
Apr-07-07 04:35 PM |
#103 |
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