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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 05:18 PM
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41. I'm no fan of Hillary, but she isn't the most right-wing candidate (Richardson or Biden is).
The Drum Major Institute evaluated the whole Senate based on 8 key votes to support the middle class, from protecting social security to fair trade to Medicare drug protections to the minimum wage:



Only 9% of the Senate (all Democrats) were awarded the highest grade of "A" for supporting the middle class on all 8 issues:



Hillary was one of those 9 Senators who got an "A" for consistently supporting the middle class (along with Boxer, Kennedy, Kerry, Sarbanes, Corzine, Lautenberg, Leahy, and Feingold). For comparison, both McCain and Hagel got an "F".

http://www.drummajorinstitute.com/congress/outerenvelop...

Hillary is way too DLC for my taste, but she's hardly "the most right wing" while Biden and Richardson remain in the race.

If you need some good reasons to support Hillary in the general election if we do not succeed in nominating a more progressive candidate, why don't you start with the 8 issues and key votes identified by the Drum Major Institute.
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  -Can anyone give me a good reason to support Hillary? ButterflyBlood  Mar-19-07 12:15 PM   #0 
  - I would ask you to support her  BOSSHOG   Mar-19-07 12:17 PM   #1 
  - Only if she somehow takes the primary. Then we vote to win the WH.  jwirr   Mar-19-07 12:18 PM   #3 
  - Yep, an entire thread for your perusal..  Tellurian   Mar-19-07 04:18 PM   #31 
  - My goal is to deny her the nomination  ButterflyBlood   Mar-19-07 12:19 PM   #5 
     - I appreciate your passion  BOSSHOG   Mar-19-07 12:26 PM   #10 
     - Gonna be really tough to do that.  AshevilleGuy   Mar-19-07 02:06 PM   #23 
        - Looks Like That From Here, Too  AndyTiedye   Mar-19-07 11:31 PM   #60 
  - No.  acmavm   Mar-19-07 12:18 PM   #2 
  - exactly.  antifaschits   Mar-19-07 12:25 PM   #9 
  - If she gets the Democratic nomination  connecticut yankee   Mar-19-07 12:18 PM   #4 
  - sure i'll give you a good reason  griffi94   Mar-19-07 12:19 PM   #6 
  - She has gobs and gobs of cash.  Deep13   Mar-19-07 12:20 PM   #7 
  - Good assessment--also the Clintons know how to play dirty  bklyncowgirl   Mar-19-07 12:52 PM   #12 
  - "She's far better than any of the Republican candidates. "  Deep13   Mar-19-07 01:25 PM   #18 
     - I like Governors because they know how to get things done.  bklyncowgirl   Mar-19-07 04:13 PM   #28 
     - "...my liking a candidate is usually the kiss of death."  Deep13   Mar-19-07 04:27 PM   #34 
     - I'd actually be quite happy with a Richardson/Dodd ticket n/t  JohnnyBoots   Mar-20-07 11:18 AM   #71 
  - "Gobs of Cash" Mean NOTHING When The Other Party Has ALL the Networks  AndyTiedye   Mar-19-07 11:28 PM   #57 
     - "Kerry raised more money than any other Democrat ever."  Deep13   Mar-20-07 09:20 AM   #65 
        - Either Just as Much or Very Close  AndyTiedye   Mar-20-07 10:20 AM   #68 
           - Yes, the corporate media gives them a free ride.  Deep13   Mar-20-07 10:22 AM   #69 
              - Which is Why Hillary's "Gobs of Cash" Won't Help Her  AndyTiedye   Mar-20-07 11:54 AM   #75 
  - If, somehow, we can't nominate someone better,  ThomCat   Mar-19-07 12:23 PM   #8 
  - She's better than Mitt...?  progressoid   Mar-19-07 12:43 PM   #11 
  - That's Not Saying Much  AndyTiedye   Mar-20-07 11:55 AM   #76 
  - Nope. n/t  peace13   Mar-19-07 12:52 PM   #13 
  - Keeping 75,000 troops in Iraq after 2009?  SOS   Mar-19-07 12:55 PM   #14 
  - None that I can think of...  Learn2Swim   Mar-19-07 12:56 PM   # 
  - she's not the most "right wing", for starters  paulk   Mar-19-07 12:56 PM   #15 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-19-07 01:05 PM   #16 
  - .  Learn2Swim   Mar-19-07 01:09 PM   #17 
  - The problem is that she has very little room to move.  Deep13   Mar-19-07 01:33 PM   #19 
  - You think Obama or anyone else has a better chance in a general election?  churchofreality   Mar-19-07 03:44 PM   #24 
     - It's gonna be tough for *anybody*  ElizabethDC   Mar-19-07 03:59 PM   #25 
     - "the right wing will just make it up anyway"  Deep13   Mar-19-07 04:28 PM   #35 
     - Once people make up their minds, they do not change them.  Deep13   Mar-19-07 04:20 PM   #32 
        - I will challenge that.  MGKrebs   Mar-19-07 06:53 PM   #53 
           - Well, time will tell. nt  Deep13   Mar-20-07 09:18 AM   #64 
  - Front runner statues at this timed is MEAN LESS talk to me February 08  bigdarryl   Mar-19-07 01:57 PM   #21 
  - excellent point..  flaminbats   Mar-19-07 02:00 PM   #22 
     - Excellent point? I can't even understand it!  MGKrebs   Mar-19-07 04:17 PM   #30 
  - She is the one potential nominee that can stop the Republikon implosion.  greyhound1966   Mar-19-07 04:05 PM   #26 
  - That MIGHT be true if the election were today.  MGKrebs   Mar-19-07 06:26 PM   #48 
  - it was true 10 years ago, and It is more true today,  greyhound1966   Mar-19-07 07:06 PM   #54 
  - Exactly..  sendero   Mar-19-07 06:28 PM   #50 
  - So we want a candidate that makes everyone stay home?  churchofreality   Mar-20-07 08:41 AM   #63 
  - "Get off the crack pipe and support the best candidate we have." Wow...  zulchzulu   Mar-19-07 04:30 PM   #37 
  - agree..  Learn2Swim   Mar-20-07 09:21 AM   #66 
     - you'd vote for NADER?????????  paulk   Mar-20-07 01:03 PM   #77 
        - .  Learn2Swim   Mar-20-07 01:06 PM   #78 
           - if HRC gets the nom  paulk   Mar-20-07 01:50 PM   #80 
              - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-20-07 02:00 PM   #82 
                 - it's in the rules for posting here  paulk   Mar-20-07 03:05 PM   #83 
                    - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-20-07 03:57 PM   #87 
  - Hillary is the "Frontrunner" ONLY Because the MSM Wants Her to be the Democratic Nominee  AndyTiedye   Mar-19-07 11:38 PM   #61 
  - Here are my usual two questions to Hillary supporters.  xkenx   Mar-20-07 11:08 AM   #70 
     - I have an addendum to that.  Clark2008   Mar-20-07 11:28 AM   #74 
  - family values..  flaminbats   Mar-19-07 01:51 PM   #20 
  - She once gave a non-binding speech where she said "no" to invading Iraq.  Dr Fate   Mar-19-07 04:13 PM   #27 
  - kick  JetCityLiberal   Mar-19-07 05:59 PM   #44 
  - Unelectable?  MGKrebs   Mar-19-07 04:16 PM   #29 
  - Hey, MGKrebs!  jen4clark   Mar-19-07 04:50 PM   #40 
     - Here's a good place to start:  MGKrebs   Mar-19-07 05:49 PM   #42 
  - Three: Rudy Giuliani, John McCain, and Mitt Romney  Hippo_Tron   Mar-19-07 04:25 PM   #33 
  - I think we need reasons to vote for her..  flaminbats   Mar-19-07 04:29 PM   #36 
  - No n/t  NDP   Mar-19-07 04:46 PM   #38 
  - Best part of this thread is.  Tellurian   Mar-19-07 04:49 PM   #39 
  - I'm no fan of Hillary, but she isn't the most right-wing candidate (Richardson or Biden is).  Czolgosz   Mar-19-07 05:18 PM   #41 
  - She's a bipedal mammal.  Oregonian   Mar-19-07 05:56 PM   #43 
  - In the big picture, a great many of us will vote for the Democratic ticket,  Old Crusoe   Mar-19-07 06:00 PM   #45 
  - She's...erm...pro choice? nt  rep the dems   Mar-19-07 06:01 PM   #46 
  - So is Obama and Edwards  ButterflyBlood   Mar-19-07 09:16 PM   #55 
     - That was the point  rep the dems   Mar-19-07 09:55 PM   #56 
  - She's got the money and brains and she won't be  laugle   Mar-19-07 06:23 PM   #47 
  - Sounds good  churchofreality   Mar-20-07 08:31 AM   #62 
  - why don't you support your argument  MsUnderstood   Mar-19-07 06:26 PM   #49 
  - You read my mind........  laugle   Mar-19-07 06:28 PM   #51 
  - LOL, good post  ElizabethDC   Mar-19-07 06:29 PM   #52 
  - Heres an entire thread in support of Hillary's credentials..  Tellurian   Mar-20-07 11:28 AM   #73 
  - Her high disapprovals and the support of the war  ButterflyBlood   Mar-20-07 10:43 PM   #89 
  - She is (still, amazingly) married to Bill....oh, sorry, that's not a "good" reason.  Clarkie1   Mar-19-07 11:30 PM   #58 
  - If you have yet to hear any rubuttals to either point, then your head is buried  mtnsnake   Mar-19-07 11:31 PM   #59 
  - A couple of facts..........  Alamom   Mar-20-07 09:52 AM   #67 
  - Well, I don't think she's the "most" right wing, but I don't think  Clark2008   Mar-20-07 11:19 AM   #72 
  - To Stick it to BUSH  rcbarron   Mar-20-07 01:18 PM   #79 
  - "Most unelectable candidate"?  MathGuy   Mar-20-07 01:56 PM   #81 
  - She ran in New York  ButterflyBlood   Mar-20-07 10:41 PM   #88 
  - Gore/Richardson  Rydz777   Mar-20-07 03:26 PM   #84 
  - Clean government? Richardson has good foreign policy experience but clean government is not his  Czolgosz   Mar-20-07 03:40 PM   #86 
  - If you need another couple of reasons to support Hillary how about the fact that she's no worse than  Czolgosz   Mar-20-07 03:38 PM   #85 
  - She is the DLC's horse in the race  draft_mario_cuomo   Mar-21-07 07:57 AM   #90 
 

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