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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 12:05 PM
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5. several good arguments here
Edited on Sat Mar-17-07 12:08 PM by spooky3


"An analogy is necessary because benefit plans do not literally deny women coverage for the same exact prescription that they cover for men. In other words, if a male employee were to somehow to get a prescription for female birth-control pills, then the benefit plan would refuse to cover the cost of that prescription, just as it would for a female employee. The policy is formally gender- blind: Anyone who wants birth control pills is denied coverage.

Nonetheless, this formal gender blindness only thinly veils an obvious gender difference as to who, in practice, receives coverage. And just as a plan covering treatments for testicular cancer but not ovarian cancer would represent sex discrimination, the failure to cover birth-control for women may also represent sex discrimination if an analogous prescription for men is covered. But what "male" prescription should be considered analogous?" (more at the link)


Another point is that it is probably a stupid managerial decision from a cost-effectiveness standpoint. The cost of unwanted pregnancies and women's health complications resulting from some of them (i.e., reactive measures) are likely much greater than the cost of covering birth control (i.e., preventive measures). It only takes a few hospitalizations to offset the "savings" from hundreds of women's birth control. And if this differential coverage policy is symbolic of other policies and the culture in the org., it probably has a negative effective on the recruitment of highly qualified women (and I hope, men). See this link for some data:
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  -A Setback For Women....Viagra Yes, Birth Control, NO! babsbunny  Mar-17-07 11:24 AM   #0 
  - This is so wrong! K&R  mentalsolstice   Mar-17-07 11:45 AM   #1 
  - Actually, there are other uses for Viagra  Alcibiades   Mar-17-07 01:26 PM   #11 
  - There are also other uses for birth control pills, including use for patients  phylny   Mar-17-07 02:08 PM   #20 
  - Quite ironic given ...  BearSquirrel2   Mar-17-07 01:58 PM   #17 
  - Kick to the Greatest page!  Lisa0825   Mar-17-07 11:48 AM   #2 
  - Not meaning to stir up trouble here, but I disagree (I think).  indie_ana_500   Mar-17-07 11:56 AM   #3 
  - Could this be handled in the union contract?  Solo_in_MD   Mar-17-07 12:05 PM   #4 
  - several good arguments here  spooky3   Mar-17-07 12:05 PM   #5 
  - What 'medical' condition is going to result  China_cat   Mar-17-07 12:33 PM   #6 
  - It's not about the "result" - It's about the "illness"  jberryhill   Mar-17-07 01:07 PM   #9 
     - But what if a pregnancy...  mentalsolstice   Mar-17-07 01:33 PM   #12 
     - Like I said..  jberryhill   Mar-17-07 01:47 PM   #14 
        - why don't you read other legal reasoning on this if you  spooky3   Mar-17-07 02:05 PM   #19 
           - "argues against your points"  jberryhill   Mar-17-07 03:01 PM   #23 
              - No one is jumping down your throat.  spooky3   Mar-17-07 03:43 PM   #27 
     - You would think, though, that an employer  China_cat   Mar-17-07 01:55 PM   #15 
     - Yup  jberryhill   Mar-17-07 03:02 PM   #24 
     - There probably isn't going to be a big upswing  Arkansas Granny   Mar-20-07 02:44 PM   #41 
     - the plan also covers Rogaine. Is hair loss a "disorder"?  spooky3   Mar-17-07 02:24 PM   #22 
        - Please find someone who disagrees with you and argue with then.  jberryhill   Mar-17-07 03:03 PM   #25 
  - Most likely.  igil   Mar-17-07 12:39 PM   #7 
  - Unfortunately my BCPs were not covered  mentalsolstice   Mar-17-07 01:58 PM   #16 
  - Not true. Birth Control pills are prescribed for conditions that involve excessive bleeding  SharonAnn   Mar-17-07 01:18 PM   #10 
  - The coverage of birth control pills is nothing compared to the coverage  phylny   Mar-17-07 02:10 PM   #21 
  - Bullshit  alarimer   Mar-17-07 03:36 PM   #26 
  - try telling that to a woman with endometriosis  ComerPerro   Mar-17-07 06:39 PM   #29 
  - been there, done that  kineneb   Mar-20-07 12:41 PM   #36 
  - 1 pregnancy is more expensive than years of birth control. add in time off to give birth, etc.  Shallah   Mar-18-07 01:20 AM   #32 
  - I use them to aid a medical ailment  recoveringrepublican   Mar-18-07 01:20 PM   #34 
  - You see the logic?  quantessd   Mar-20-07 12:29 PM   #35 
  - Hormone therapy fights  MsMagnificent   Mar-20-07 02:38 PM   #40 
  - This is the result of years of "pro-life" activism in both parties.  madfloridian   Mar-17-07 01:00 PM   #8 
  - And if God says  mentalsolstice   Mar-17-07 01:37 PM   #13 
     - Yes but ...  BearSquirrel2   Mar-17-07 02:02 PM   #18 
  - This is why the class action rules were changed.  greyhound1966   Mar-17-07 06:26 PM   #28 
  - Women should be the only  femrap   Mar-17-07 06:49 PM   #30 
  - This got me to thinking. I can't wait to get into an argument with a someone who  NDP   Mar-17-07 06:58 PM   #31 
  - appalling  HuffleClaw   Mar-18-07 04:08 AM   #33 
  - so it doesn't cover condoms but does it cover prescription birth control  orleans   Mar-20-07 01:18 PM   #37 
  - You're misreading.  ieoeja   Mar-20-07 02:29 PM   #39 
  - I really don't understand this as a business decision.  Clark2008   Mar-20-07 01:26 PM   #38 
  - It makes sense  Bronyraurus   Mar-20-07 02:48 PM   #42 

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