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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 06:14 PM
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3. Well, I am just asking Chafee's question.....
Which the more I think of it, the less I like the answer.
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  -CHAFEE Raises a Good Point -Why did Dem Sen. who voted FOR IWR, Vote NO for LEVIN and ViseVersa? FrenchieCat  Mar-01-07 06:06 PM   #0 
  - All of those dems supported the war  BayCityProgressive   Mar-01-07 06:12 PM   #1 
  - Big thanks, FrenchieCat, for your thread. I hope it gets the play here it deserves.  David Zephyr   Mar-01-07 06:12 PM   #2 
  - Well, I am just asking Chafee's question.....  FrenchieCat   Mar-01-07 06:14 PM   #3 
  - It may not since it's a dupe  JNelson6563   Mar-02-07 08:23 AM   #35 
     - Thanks for pointing that out........  FrenchieCat   Mar-02-07 12:47 PM   #43 
  - Better question, perhaps...  Everybody   Mar-01-07 06:17 PM   #4 
  - Why did Feingold vote against it?  ProSense   Mar-01-07 06:22 PM   #5 
  - Feingold didn't want to give UN any power over our going to war..and didn't believe any intervention  FrenchieCat   Mar-01-07 06:29 PM   #6 
     - No, for the very reason I stated.  ProSense   Mar-01-07 06:50 PM   #11 
     - Why did those three vote AYE for both ?  FrenchieCat   Mar-01-07 06:53 PM   #12 
        - I did address that in my response. n/t  ProSense   Mar-01-07 06:56 PM   #13 
           - Please see my edited post...entered prior to you reply....  FrenchieCat   Mar-01-07 07:00 PM   #14 
     - Power? No one ever said the UN granted POWER  Canuckistanian   Mar-01-07 08:38 PM   #27 
        - I think that Feingold just doesn't believe in intervention without  FrenchieCat   Mar-01-07 09:19 PM   #30 
           - Like last year's invasion of Lebanon?  Canuckistanian   Mar-01-07 09:30 PM   #31 
              - I agree that "self defense" is Muddled......  FrenchieCat   Mar-01-07 09:35 PM   #32 
  - .  Hav   Mar-01-07 06:29 PM   #7 
  - Similar column last week in the Detroit News  WesDem   Mar-01-07 06:31 PM   #8 
  - This then looks like a co-ordinated action  karynnj   Mar-02-07 01:40 PM   #46 
     - The important thing about Levin  WesDem   Mar-02-07 03:13 PM   #50 
        - I'm as confused as you  karynnj   Mar-02-07 03:57 PM   #52 
           - If Bush decided to go unilaterally, after the UN  WesDem   Mar-02-07 04:03 PM   #53 
           - The problem would have been that it was more ambiguous  karynnj   Mar-03-07 01:26 PM   #65 
           - Durbin makes clear the difference between Lieberman's IWR and his own, the Levin here.....  FrenchieCat   Mar-02-07 08:27 PM   #61 
              - I meant Levin made it clear....not Durbin! n/t  FrenchieCat   Mar-02-07 10:29 PM   #62 
              - Delete - I see your other response.  karynnj   Mar-03-07 01:16 PM   #64 
  - So, why did Chafee vote against the Durbin amendment that would have limited  Mass   Mar-01-07 06:38 PM   #9 
  - I believe that you may have a good question .......  FrenchieCat   Mar-01-07 06:44 PM   #10 
     - Durbin voted NO on the IWR.  Mass   Mar-01-07 07:00 PM   #15 
        - So can you give us a short sypnopsis on the Durbin amendment?  FrenchieCat   Mar-01-07 07:11 PM   #16 
           - Here is the synopsis of the Durbin amendment.  Mass   Mar-01-07 07:18 PM   #17 
           - Did the others require a second vote by Congress?  WesDem   Mar-01-07 07:21 PM   #18 
           - None of these votes (including Levin) required a second vote by Congress.  Mass   Mar-01-07 07:24 PM   #20 
              - Those voting YEAH on 2nd Byrd amendment....  FrenchieCat   Mar-01-07 07:52 PM   #25 
              - According to EPIC  WesDem   Mar-01-07 08:56 PM   #28 
                 - According to Carl Levin  WesDem   Mar-02-07 03:08 PM   #49 
           - The way I read this, the Levin ammendment would not have required Congressional authorizaion  Clarkie1   Mar-01-07 07:30 PM   #21 
           - Upon closer reading, this is not the case.  Clarkie1   Mar-02-07 12:42 AM   #34 
              - The UN did pass a resolution unanimously  karynnj   Mar-02-07 12:21 PM   #42 
           - Probably because the Durbin admendment was done the day before.....  FrenchieCat   Mar-01-07 07:43 PM   #22 
              - As I read Levin, it would not have slowed the road to war.  Mass   Mar-01-07 07:48 PM   #24 
                 - How do you read the Levin amendment?  FrenchieCat   Mar-01-07 08:03 PM   #26 
                    - I think you are right...nt.  Clarkie1   Mar-02-07 12:38 AM   #33 
           - Durbin Amendment, Oct 10th, 2002  TayTay   Mar-02-07 12:06 PM   #41 
              - Do you have a link to that text, TayTay?  WesDem   Mar-02-07 03:15 PM   #51 
                 - Not directly, due to the weirdness that is THOMAS  TayTay   Mar-02-07 07:19 PM   #59 
  - Wellstone: A man of conscience.  AtomicKitten   Mar-01-07 07:23 PM   #19 
  - Hero is the word!  FrenchieCat   Mar-01-07 07:44 PM   #23 
  - Levin Amendment on Iraq  FrenchieCat   Mar-01-07 09:01 PM   #29 
  - K&R - important points...n/t  ms liberty   Mar-02-07 08:27 AM   #36 
  - Because Bush was popular at the time, because an election was approaching  Tom Rinaldo   Mar-02-07 08:57 AM   #37 
  - But overall, because they valued their CAREERS more than taking the MORAL and JUST stand.  ShortnFiery   Mar-02-07 01:49 PM   #47 
  - Think-tankitis  Donna Zen   Mar-02-07 09:29 AM   #38 
  - So proud of the Dems who voted Aye on Levin and Nay on IRW  Supersedeas   Mar-02-07 09:32 AM   #39 
  - How does the DLC play here?  formercia   Mar-02-07 11:14 AM   #40 
  - I provided a list.......  FrenchieCat   Mar-02-07 12:52 PM   #44 
     - Here's a list of the DLC membership  formercia   Mar-02-07 04:41 PM   #55 
        - Actually there are 3 on that listing that voted Yeah to Levin....  FrenchieCat   Mar-02-07 05:53 PM   #57 
           - The leadership of the DLC is connected to PNAC  formercia   Mar-02-07 06:14 PM   #58 
              - I know that Levin and Ted Kennedy and Wes Clark worked actively for the Levin Amendment....  FrenchieCat   Mar-02-07 07:33 PM   #60 
                 - Can't have those pesky specifics  formercia   Mar-03-07 07:26 AM   #63 
  - because Biden-Lugar was better?  NewYorkerfromMass   Mar-02-07 01:15 PM   #45 
  - Provide us with the "Nutshell" of the Biden-Lugar amendment, if you please.....  FrenchieCat   Mar-02-07 02:20 PM   #48 
  - It's too tied to UN approval  sandnsea   Mar-02-07 04:18 PM   #54 
  - But there was nothing wrong with seeking UN approval of their own resolution.....  FrenchieCat   Mar-02-07 05:46 PM   #56 
  - Good point.  indie_ana_500   Mar-03-07 03:16 PM   #66 
 

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