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Wed Feb-28-07 09:43 AM
Response to Reply #19 |
| 21. I just don't think that's how Richardson would identify himself |
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and I think the 'DLC' has become shorthand for folks looking to marginalize these candidates into their own ideological pigeon holes.
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| -I looked up Gov. Bill Richardson (a fellow I knew john excrement about) and I like what I saw. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Feb-28-07 08:53 AM |
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I think Richardson is great |
skipos |
Feb-28-07 08:56 AM |
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me too |
Deep13 |
Feb-28-07 08:59 AM |
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I'm aware the infighting often gets to ridiculous levels. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Feb-28-07 09:06 AM |
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He's bright and eloquent. |
Feles Mala |
Feb-28-07 09:00 AM |
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fascinating |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 09:15 AM |
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I was thinking more about the likes of Lieberman, but since you mentioned it... |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Feb-28-07 09:22 AM |
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quite honestly, positions on the Iraq war circa 2003 from non-Senators and congressman... |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 09:25 AM |
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Examples please? -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Feb-28-07 09:27 AM |
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NAFTA, GATT, WTO... |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 09:31 AM |
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That might have scanned better if the quotes were in chronological |
NCevilDUer |
Feb-28-07 11:25 AM |
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most people, when asked about it, have |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 11:30 AM |
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He takes an entirely different stance on Iraq than Lieberman |
bigtree |
Feb-28-07 09:31 AM |
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what was Richardson's Iraq position in 2003? |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 09:32 AM |
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why don't you spell out his Iraq position in 2003 for me? |
bigtree |
Feb-28-07 09:35 AM |
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See post #8 |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 09:37 AM |
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So, if we can't find any declaration by him about the subject back then... |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Feb-28-07 09:44 AM |
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that is the point I was making |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 09:48 AM |
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And that "now" position is anti-war. So? -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Feb-28-07 10:10 AM |
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as are most DLCers now. |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 10:17 AM |
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Except Hillary. And Holy Joe. And probably others I forgot. -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Feb-28-07 10:18 AM |
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Hillary supports a phased withdrawl... |
SaveElmer |
Feb-28-07 10:20 AM |
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wrong again |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 10:33 AM |
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perhaps he's concerned, as all of us are, about the aftermath |
bigtree |
Feb-28-07 10:37 AM |
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right, so why is the left intent on dogging one Democrat (Clinton) and praising another for the same |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 10:39 AM |
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Ooooo! FAR LEFT OOGA BOOGA! So liking Richardson and disliking Hillary is an indefensible position |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Feb-28-07 11:06 AM |
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Feb-28-07 11:29 AM |
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upon further examination |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 10:07 AM |
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the right also uses the Zahn interview to paint Richardson as pro war |
bigtree |
Feb-28-07 10:21 AM |
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well, so does the left because I found the quote a leftwing site. |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 10:26 AM |
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that's right. Against what Bush ultimately committed us to in Iraq |
bigtree |
Feb-28-07 10:38 AM |
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He is against the war |
BayCityProgressive |
Feb-28-07 09:27 AM |
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Hm, doesn't look Liebermanesque at all. -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Feb-28-07 09:28 AM |
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Not so fast |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 09:35 AM |
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not so fast yourself |
bigtree |
Feb-28-07 09:40 AM |
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Not so fast YOURself. "Legalizing pot" and allowing medical marijuana aren't the same thing. |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 09:44 AM |
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Again, a vast improvement on the current hysterical WoD policy. -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Feb-28-07 09:45 AM |
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yes, but still... |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 09:49 AM |
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is legalizing for medicinal use a "a centrist/DLC inspired policy?" |
bigtree |
Feb-28-07 10:39 AM |
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you bet it is. |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 10:39 AM |
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It's not a 'moderate' stance |
bigtree |
Feb-28-07 09:46 AM |
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You managed to find something I don't like about Richardson, but it's not what you expected. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Feb-28-07 09:41 AM |
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did you think I was expecting something of you? |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 09:47 AM |
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You showed me something, therefore you expected me to be aware of something. -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Feb-28-07 10:27 AM |
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I like where Bill Richardson stands and the issues he's chosen to champion and represent |
bigtree |
Feb-28-07 09:25 AM |
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I don't require an explanation of what the DLC is since I am pro-DLC.. |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 09:40 AM |
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I just don't think that's how Richardson would identify himself |
bigtree |
Feb-28-07 09:43 AM |
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you don't think a dues paying member of the DLC would identify himself as such? |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 09:52 AM |
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I think he said Democratic leadership governor, but I get it |
bigtree |
Feb-28-07 10:11 AM |
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why don't we put this to rest now and do an issue by issue comparison? |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 10:16 AM |
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Liebernam for instance is pro-choice, votes progressively on the environment |
bigtree |
Feb-28-07 10:32 AM |
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dupe post |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 10:37 AM |
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...as does Richardson's |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 10:37 AM |
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Has Richardson ever kissed Bush's ass like Lieberman did? -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Feb-28-07 11:11 AM |
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oh, I see. Being nice to Bush is now the crime, not just agreeing with him |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 11:31 AM |
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Declaring that Lieberman kissed Bush's ass is vitriol since when? It's the truth. -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Feb-28-07 11:47 AM |
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OK. So being nice to Bush is the crime, not just going along with him. |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 11:48 AM |
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"Is he beholden to every organization where he 'pays' dues? " |
SaveElmer |
Feb-28-07 10:29 AM |
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very good point. |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 10:46 AM |
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It is breathtaking... |
SaveElmer |
Feb-28-07 10:13 AM |
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the label is worthless and inaccurate |
bigtree |
Feb-28-07 10:57 AM |
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And a member of the DLC... |
SaveElmer |
Feb-28-07 11:03 AM |
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so why doesn't he get equal credit for positions which are advocated by 'progressive' groups |
bigtree |
Feb-28-07 11:15 AM |
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Well here on DU... |
SaveElmer |
Feb-28-07 11:20 AM |
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they are examples of oraanizations which eschew the labels of 'right and left' |
bigtree |
Feb-28-07 11:27 AM |
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Well then... |
SaveElmer |
Feb-28-07 11:39 AM |
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I saw the same thing here about Mark Warner and Tim Kaine |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 11:42 AM |
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Brother that is priceless...nt |
SaveElmer |
Feb-28-07 11:51 AM |
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I'm going to kick and recommend this post, anyway... |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 10:47 AM |
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I don't deny them, I think the label is misleading and irrelevant |
bigtree |
Feb-28-07 11:00 AM |
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I believe wyldwolf's point is something else. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Feb-28-07 11:03 AM |
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wyldwolf and I are pretty much on the same political page |
bigtree |
Feb-28-07 11:18 AM |
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then you'd be wrong. I will say, in regards to you... |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 11:34 AM |
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It's funny how you got so worked up with DLC this, DLC that... |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Feb-28-07 11:01 AM |
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I think the only worked up one here is you. |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 11:35 AM |
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"I know you are but what am I?" and its variants are tiring. -nt |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Feb-28-07 11:39 AM |
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it must be past your naptime, then. |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 11:43 AM |
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It is a synthetic representation of your idea of what "the Left" is. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Feb-28-07 12:00 PM |
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and you're a fine representation of it |
wyldwolf |
Feb-28-07 12:04 PM |
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I REALLY LIKE HIM....NT |
Nimrod2005 |
Feb-28-07 10:56 AM |
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john excrement? |
Ninja Jordan |
Feb-28-07 11:21 AM |
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Polite way to say... |
SaveElmer |
Feb-28-07 11:41 AM |
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Why not say 'Jack Excrement'? |
Ninja Jordan |
Feb-28-07 12:38 PM |
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