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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-28-07 09:22 AM
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6. I was thinking more about the likes of Lieberman, but since you mentioned it...
What is Richardson's position about the Iraq war? What was he saying circa 2003? And now? I didn't find references to that.
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  -I looked up Gov. Bill Richardson (a fellow I knew john excrement about) and I like what I saw. Commie Pinko Dirtbag  Feb-28-07 08:53 AM   #0 
  - I think Richardson is great  skipos   Feb-28-07 08:56 AM   #1 
  - me too  Deep13   Feb-28-07 08:59 AM   #2 
  - I'm aware the infighting often gets to ridiculous levels.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Feb-28-07 09:06 AM   #4 
  - He's bright and eloquent.  Feles Mala   Feb-28-07 09:00 AM   #3 
  - fascinating  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 09:15 AM   #5 
  - I was thinking more about the likes of Lieberman, but since you mentioned it...  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Feb-28-07 09:22 AM   #6 
     - quite honestly, positions on the Iraq war circa 2003 from non-Senators and congressman...  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 09:25 AM   #8 
     - Examples please? -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Feb-28-07 09:27 AM   #10 
     - NAFTA, GATT, WTO...  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 09:31 AM   #13 
        - That might have scanned better if the quotes were in chronological  NCevilDUer   Feb-28-07 11:25 AM   #64 
           - most people, when asked about it, have  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 11:30 AM   #67 
     - He takes an entirely different stance on Iraq than Lieberman  bigtree   Feb-28-07 09:31 AM   #12 
        - what was Richardson's Iraq position in 2003?  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 09:32 AM   #14 
           - why don't you spell out his Iraq position in 2003 for me?  bigtree   Feb-28-07 09:35 AM   #16 
              - See post #8  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 09:37 AM   #17 
                 - So, if we can't find any declaration by him about the subject back then...  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Feb-28-07 09:44 AM   #23 
                    - that is the point I was making  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 09:48 AM   #27 
                    - And that "now" position is anti-war. So? -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Feb-28-07 10:10 AM   #31 
                       - as are most DLCers now.  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 10:17 AM   #35 
                          - Except Hillary. And Holy Joe. And probably others I forgot. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Feb-28-07 10:18 AM   #36 
                             - Hillary supports a phased withdrawl...  SaveElmer   Feb-28-07 10:20 AM   #37 
                             - wrong again  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 10:33 AM   #43 
                                - perhaps he's concerned, as all of us are, about the aftermath  bigtree   Feb-28-07 10:37 AM   #45 
                                   - right, so why is the left intent on dogging one Democrat (Clinton) and praising another for the same  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 10:39 AM   # 
                                      - Ooooo! FAR LEFT OOGA BOOGA! So liking Richardson and disliking Hillary is an indefensible position  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Feb-28-07 11:06 AM   #58 
                                         - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-28-07 11:29 AM   #66 
                    - upon further examination  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 10:07 AM   #30 
                       - the right also uses the Zahn interview to paint Richardson as pro war  bigtree   Feb-28-07 10:21 AM   #38 
                          - well, so does the left because I found the quote a leftwing site.  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 10:26 AM   #39 
                             - that's right. Against what Bush ultimately committed us to in Iraq  bigtree   Feb-28-07 10:38 AM   #47 
     - He is against the war  BayCityProgressive   Feb-28-07 09:27 AM   #9 
        - Hm, doesn't look Liebermanesque at all. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Feb-28-07 09:28 AM   #11 
        - Not so fast  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 09:35 AM   #15 
           - not so fast yourself  bigtree   Feb-28-07 09:40 AM   #18 
           - Not so fast YOURself. "Legalizing pot" and allowing medical marijuana aren't the same thing.  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 09:44 AM   #22 
              - Again, a vast improvement on the current hysterical WoD policy. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Feb-28-07 09:45 AM   #24 
              - yes, but still...  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 09:49 AM   #28 
                 - is legalizing for medicinal use a "a centrist/DLC inspired policy?"  bigtree   Feb-28-07 10:39 AM   #48 
                    - you bet it is.  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 10:39 AM   #49 
              - It's not a 'moderate' stance  bigtree   Feb-28-07 09:46 AM   #25 
           - You managed to find something I don't like about Richardson, but it's not what you expected.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Feb-28-07 09:41 AM   #20 
              - did you think I was expecting something of you?  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 09:47 AM   #26 
                 - You showed me something, therefore you expected me to be aware of something. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Feb-28-07 10:27 AM   #40 
  - I like where Bill Richardson stands and the issues he's chosen to champion and represent  bigtree   Feb-28-07 09:25 AM   #7 
  - I don't require an explanation of what the DLC is since I am pro-DLC..  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 09:40 AM   #19 
     - I just don't think that's how Richardson would identify himself  bigtree   Feb-28-07 09:43 AM   #21 
        - you don't think a dues paying member of the DLC would identify himself as such?  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 09:52 AM   #29 
           - I think he said Democratic leadership governor, but I get it  bigtree   Feb-28-07 10:11 AM   #32 
           - why don't we put this to rest now and do an issue by issue comparison?  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 10:16 AM   #34 
           - Liebernam for instance is pro-choice, votes progressively on the environment  bigtree   Feb-28-07 10:32 AM   #42 
              - dupe post  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 10:37 AM   #44 
              - does Richardson's  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 10:37 AM   #46 
                 - Has Richardson ever kissed Bush's ass like Lieberman did? -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Feb-28-07 11:11 AM   #59 
                    - oh, I see. Being nice to Bush is now the crime, not just agreeing with him  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 11:31 AM   #68 
                       - Declaring that Lieberman kissed Bush's ass is vitriol since when? It's the truth. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Feb-28-07 11:47 AM   #76 
                          - OK. So being nice to Bush is the crime, not just going along with him.  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 11:48 AM   #77 
           - "Is he beholden to every organization where he 'pays' dues? "  SaveElmer   Feb-28-07 10:29 AM   #41 
              - very good point.  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 10:46 AM   #50 
           - It is breathtaking...  SaveElmer   Feb-28-07 10:13 AM   #33 
              - the label is worthless and inaccurate  bigtree   Feb-28-07 10:57 AM   #53 
              - And a member of the DLC...  SaveElmer   Feb-28-07 11:03 AM   #56 
                 - so why doesn't he get equal credit for positions which are advocated by 'progressive' groups  bigtree   Feb-28-07 11:15 AM   #60 
                    - Well here on DU...  SaveElmer   Feb-28-07 11:20 AM   #62 
                       - they are examples of oraanizations which eschew the labels of 'right and left'  bigtree   Feb-28-07 11:27 AM   #65 
                          - Well then...  SaveElmer   Feb-28-07 11:39 AM   #71 
              - I saw the same thing here about Mark Warner and Tim Kaine  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 11:42 AM   #74 
                 - Brother that is priceless...nt  SaveElmer   Feb-28-07 11:51 AM   #78 
  - I'm going to kick and recommend this post, anyway...  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 10:47 AM   #51 
  - I don't deny them, I think the label is misleading and irrelevant  bigtree   Feb-28-07 11:00 AM   #54 
  - I believe wyldwolf's point is something else.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Feb-28-07 11:03 AM   #57 
     - wyldwolf and I are pretty much on the same political page  bigtree   Feb-28-07 11:18 AM   #61 
     - then you'd be wrong. I will say, in regards to you...  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 11:34 AM   #69 
  - It's funny how you got so worked up with DLC this, DLC that...  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Feb-28-07 11:01 AM   #55 
     - I think the only worked up one here is you.  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 11:35 AM   #70 
        - "I know you are but what am I?" and its variants are tiring. -nt  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Feb-28-07 11:39 AM   #72 
           - it must be past your naptime, then.  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 11:43 AM   #75 
              - It is a synthetic representation of your idea of what "the Left" is.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Feb-28-07 12:00 PM   #79 
                 - and you're a fine representation of it  wyldwolf   Feb-28-07 12:04 PM   #80 
  - I REALLY LIKE HIM....NT  Nimrod2005   Feb-28-07 10:56 AM   #52 
  - john excrement?  Ninja Jordan   Feb-28-07 11:21 AM   #63 
     - Polite way to say...  SaveElmer   Feb-28-07 11:41 AM   #73 
        - Why not say 'Jack Excrement'?  Ninja Jordan   Feb-28-07 12:38 PM   #81 

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