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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-23-07 09:36 AM
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17. Dowd's column mentioned Rich, not Pelitier
Edited on Fri Feb-23-07 09:38 AM by karynnj
The Clintons' have brought up the disagreement on Pelitier to change the question from:

- Was it unethical and wrong to pardon Rich, before he was even tried or fully investigated - even though he was wanted for commodity speculation and was possibly involved with BCCI in illegal activitities. He was on Kerry's list of people and things that needed to be investigated. This does not mean he was guilty, but I doubt Kerry, who was pretty cautious on his recommendation would have listed him without having seen some damaging evidence. Kerry's caution was for good reason - his charges were explosive and one charge easily blown out of the water would have damaged his credibility on everything else.

to:
- Who was worse, Pellitier, who Geffen thought should be pardoned or Rich, who Clinton pardoned?

In fact, when the controversy started the NYT didn't even include the Rich comment in the article that was not behind the "for pay" curtain.

To me, the Dowd column was typical Dowd snark - most of the Geffen comments were juvenile (just like Dowd's usually are). The Rich question floats above them - as it really is a legitimate question and it should be more seriously investigated.
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  -I think that Clinton can benefit fron not being Hollywood's question everything  Feb-22-07 04:49 PM   #0 
  - Geffen says he's mad because Clinton didn't pardon a guy who killed two FBI agents.  David Dunham   Feb-22-07 04:56 PM   #1 
  - Rich was an ARMSDEALER for the BFEE - he helped kill PLENTY of people and Clinton knew it.  blm   Feb-22-07 05:43 PM   #13 
  - Dowd's column mentioned Rich, not Pelitier  karynnj   Feb-23-07 09:36 AM   #17 
  - Were you there at the Pine Ridge Reservation? Did you see him kill the FBI agents?  zulchzulu   Feb-24-07 03:01 PM   #21 
  - The only flaw in your logic is that most people AGREE with what Geffen said.  Dr Fate   Feb-22-07 05:02 PM   #2 
  - I hope it brings ATTENTION to Rich pardon - he was a BFEE armsdealer being pardoned  blm   Feb-23-07 08:58 AM   #14 
  - no they don't.  wyldwolf   Feb-23-07 09:21 AM   #16 
  - Where do you get the "most people agree?"  question everything   Feb-24-07 02:37 PM   #19 
  - So now there is a "Bash Hollywood" lobby on the left!?!  AX10   Feb-22-07 05:19 PM   #3 
  - Agree. But too many see "Hollywood" as different  question everything   Feb-22-07 05:23 PM   #5 
     - Or at least some focus group from a year & half ago said that.  Dr Fate   Feb-22-07 05:40 PM   #9 
        - True - and per a NYT article a few years ago,  karynnj   Feb-23-07 09:47 AM   #18 
  - Clinton WAS their candidate and has been DUMPED . Big difference.  youngdem   Feb-22-07 05:21 PM   #4 
  - OK, I think that she can still play this to her advantage (nt)  question everything   Feb-22-07 05:24 PM   #6 
     - Sure- all she has to do is convince folks that Geffen is nuts for saying most politicians are liars.  Dr Fate   Feb-22-07 05:43 PM   #12 
  - You forget that the biggest consumers of that "sexually explicit" immoral stuff...  Solon   Feb-22-07 05:24 PM   #7 
  - Average Americans who never got focus-tested, for that matter. n/t  Dr Fate   Feb-22-07 05:41 PM   #11 
  - Sure, they consume it and then go to church  question everything   Feb-24-07 02:39 PM   #20 
  - Bill jeopardized the party and this country when he chose to protect Poppy Bush's  blm   Feb-22-07 05:39 PM   #8 
  - I agree.  AX10   Feb-22-07 05:41 PM   #10 
     - I dunno  wetcanvas   Feb-23-07 09:15 AM   #15 
  - Good idea! Have Senator Clinton call for more moral controls on Hollywood!  zulchzulu   Feb-24-07 03:04 PM   #22 
 

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