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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-19-07 10:26 AM
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109. Apparently...
...Hillary doesn't think she needs the active party members. I guess she figures, like the rest of her supporters, that her MONEY is all she needs to win. I just said to someone yesterday that if Hillary gets the nomination I will give up on politics and I will not vote. Great minds think alike. :)
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  -After this quote, Hillary is FINISHED as far as I'm concerned ButterflyBlood  Feb-18-07 07:05 PM   #0 
  - It is such  BayCityProgressive   Feb-18-07 07:07 PM   #1 
  - The left is always taken for granted  dflprincess   Feb-18-07 07:36 PM   #40 
  - Not always. But, primarily by DLCers like her. (nt)  w4rma   Feb-18-07 09:45 PM   #73 
  - I hope the Dems are waking up to how many on the left feel about Hillary and  mod mom   Feb-19-07 07:22 AM   #90 
  - Apparently...  elizm   Feb-19-07 10:26 AM   #109 
  - Hillary a mistake  job777   Feb-19-07 04:27 PM   #154 
     - But, the best part is that if Hillary is out than the repugs are stuck  caledesi   Feb-20-07 05:50 AM   #180 
  - Iraq isn't even a "left" issue anymore  high density   Feb-19-07 03:05 PM   #148 
  - Man, You are so right...  curiousdemo   Feb-19-07 03:52 PM   #150 
  - Not to mention a good third of the Republicans as well  MessiahRp   Feb-19-07 04:12 PM   #151 
  - Actually no, it's assumed that the left will look for any excuse to not vote Democrat.  TheWraith   Feb-19-07 06:47 PM   #170 
     - Thoughtful post  knowledgeispwr   Feb-19-07 11:39 PM   #174 
  - Kerry's Support of the War Lost the 2004 Election For Him  Mr. Ected   Feb-19-07 10:55 AM   #118 
     - No, he "lost" because of a vicious smear machine, lack of party support  politicasista   Feb-19-07 01:24 PM   #131 
  - That's pretty dismissive eom  boobooday   Feb-18-07 07:07 PM   #2 
  - Why the outrage?  OKNancy   Feb-18-07 07:07 PM   #3 
  - She has a LOT of work to do to earn my vote.  speedoo   Feb-18-07 07:12 PM   #8 
  - I guess that question keeps popping up.... Do we really want another...  oldtimecanuk   Feb-18-07 07:17 PM   #16 
  - My vote has nothing to do with that.  speedoo   Feb-18-07 07:37 PM   #41 
  - As I recall, WE TRIED TO TELL HER AT THE TIME! nt  zanne   Feb-19-07 01:40 PM   #137 
  - Bush rule and Clinton rule  creeksneakers2   Feb-19-07 10:43 AM   #115 
  - Agree. It's the same-old, same-old politics. Tired of it, and  caledesi   Feb-20-07 05:38 AM   #179 
  - Amen!  StateSecrets   Feb-19-07 05:16 PM   #166 
  - chuckle. you are right  rodeodance   Feb-18-07 07:15 PM   #12 
  - How often do politicians say to vote for someone else?  ButterflyBlood   Feb-18-07 07:15 PM   #14 
  - The only time I've seen it is on the West Wing  Hippo_Tron   Feb-18-07 09:13 PM   #67 
     - That was a special moment wasn't it?  tkmorris   Feb-19-07 03:20 AM   #86 
        - Wait a minute here - Are you saying that Bartlett is not in the  truedelphi   Feb-19-07 02:17 PM   #144 
  - If she doesn't want my vote in the primaries...  elizm   Feb-19-07 10:27 AM   #110 
  - I have always agreed with this, and didn't want to see Hilary as..  oldtimecanuk   Feb-18-07 07:09 PM   #4 
  - Gov. Richardson was on NPR's Talk of the Nation the other day.  classof56   Feb-18-07 07:13 PM   #9 
     - I've been paying more attention to Richardson, I like him too. ....n/t  Just-plain-Kathy   Feb-18-07 10:03 PM   #76 
     - I have to admit  tkmorris   Feb-19-07 03:23 AM   #87 
        - There was no coverup imho.  DemCam   Feb-19-07 11:00 AM   #119 
  - "then there are others to choose from"  Vickers   Feb-18-07 07:10 PM   #5 
  - good post and thouught provoking  illinoisprogressive   Feb-18-07 07:11 PM   #6 
  - I'll alert the media.  AtomicKitten   Feb-18-07 07:11 PM   #7 
  - Yes . having the integrity to stand by her actions  bowens43   Feb-18-07 07:14 PM   #10 
  - So do you think the same about Bush standing by his?  cui bono   Feb-18-07 07:49 PM   #47 
  - Shrub does that too yanno?  sellitman   Feb-18-07 08:00 PM   #54 
  - Is that what you call 'integrity'?  Concerned GA Voter   Feb-19-07 06:12 AM   #88 
  - Brief history lesson for you  knight_of_the_star   Feb-19-07 11:15 PM   #173 
  - Love her resolve won't back down attitude !  DURHAM D   Feb-18-07 07:14 PM   #11 
  - Ugh. My post #47 applies as a response to yours as well. nt  cui bono   Feb-18-07 07:50 PM   #48 
  - Resolve? Won't back down  marekjed   Feb-19-07 04:42 PM   #156 
  - Please don't use the word "resolve"...sounds like * too much. nt  caledesi   Feb-20-07 05:57 AM   #181 
  - Hillary needs to fire Mcawful, Carvill and the rest of her corporate staff  tularetom   Feb-18-07 07:15 PM   #13 
  - Is Carvill a paid consultant or staff?  ktlyon   Feb-19-07 12:42 PM   #126 
  - Definitely .... if you don't like her quote, vote  Catchawave   Feb-18-07 07:17 PM   #15 
  - The question is, why do we WANT someone who stands with voting for the IWR?  ButterflyBlood   Feb-18-07 07:18 PM   #20 
  - I'm a moderate Dem, I'm over it.  Catchawave   Feb-18-07 07:28 PM   #33 
     - The Republicans are on the verge of self destruction  Hippo_Tron   Feb-18-07 09:19 PM   #69 
        - that's an interesting point...  paulk   Feb-19-07 12:27 PM   #125 
        - The times are too serious for mediocre politicians  Lydia Leftcoast   Feb-19-07 04:54 PM   #163 
  - No, more like 'GET OVER IT' is what she's saying  Morgana LaFey   Feb-18-07 07:19 PM   #21 
  - I'm over it, so it doesn't bother me....  Catchawave   Feb-18-07 07:30 PM   #36 
  - Kinda like Bill did in '92 in regards to Poppy (George HW Bush)...  fooj   Feb-19-07 02:09 PM   #142 
  - It's a little hard to GET OVER IT.. when we are  PassingFair   Feb-19-07 06:56 PM   #172 
  - Especially in this case!  Chulanowa   Feb-19-07 01:50 AM   #84 
  - That's a very thoughtful message  marekjed   Feb-19-07 04:45 PM   #158 
  - Her resolve, won't back down, didn't make a mistake  Laurab   Feb-18-07 07:17 PM   #17 
  - Yep, and you don't have to name names for anyone to understand ...  oldtimecanuk   Feb-18-07 07:21 PM   #27 
  - I'm with you.  dammitann   Feb-18-07 07:40 PM   #43 
  - Yeah, kinda tone deaf, isn't it?  Morgana LaFey   Feb-18-07 07:18 PM   #18 
  - as IF you were going to vote for her before this??? nt  msongs   Feb-18-07 07:18 PM   #19 
  - To be honest, I was on the fence.  Steve_DeShazer   Feb-18-07 07:20 PM   #24 
  - People who love her "resolve" or as I call it "stubborness" need  whutgives   Feb-18-07 07:19 PM   #22 
  - What bothers me most about her..  girl gone mad   Feb-18-07 07:19 PM   #23 
  - Hillary isn't working on any of our votes. She's playing to the moderate right.  Buzz Clik   Feb-18-07 07:20 PM   #25 
  - Maybe she is playing to the moderate right, but she is still coming ...  oldtimecanuk   Feb-18-07 07:26 PM   #32 
  - Yeah, as if the moderate right wants her either.  Doremus   Feb-19-07 02:02 AM   #85 
     - Rupert Murdoch supports her.  fooj   Feb-19-07 02:10 PM   #143 
  - It's better than empty rhetoric . . .  ElizabethDC   Feb-18-07 07:20 PM   #26 
  - She's an enabler.  Kagemusha   Feb-18-07 07:25 PM   #30 
  - Except for one problem that I see with her.... She is a Hawk... and  oldtimecanuk   Feb-18-07 07:29 PM   #35 
     - her campaign manager has said that he is proud of  truedelphi   Feb-19-07 02:19 PM   #145 
  - I think I would vote for Hagel before Hillary  phillysuse   Feb-18-07 07:23 PM   #28 
  - If he runs you won't need to vote for him - his voting  DURHAM D   Feb-18-07 07:26 PM   #31 
  - Hagel will beat Hillary even without  phillysuse   Feb-18-07 07:28 PM   #34 
     - Don't really think you should be supporting a Repug over a  DURHAM D   Feb-18-07 07:35 PM   #39 
        - I don't really support Hagel but I do support his honesty  phillysuse   Feb-18-07 07:37 PM   #42 
           - You said you would vote for him over Hillary.  DURHAM D   Feb-18-07 07:53 PM   #50 
           - Well that's what happens when you vote on one issue alone  incapsulated   Feb-18-07 08:00 PM   #53 
           - I agree n/t  themartyred   Feb-18-07 08:15 PM   #58 
  - Holy shit  cali   Feb-18-07 07:53 PM   #51 
  - Single issue voter, eh?  skipos   Feb-18-07 08:39 PM   #62 
  - You'd vote for an ultraconservative over a moderate?  TwilightZone   Feb-19-07 09:00 AM   #98 
  - The arrogance. Is if she's somehow the presumptive nominee, already.  smoogatz   Feb-18-07 07:24 PM   #29 
  - Not only Obama, but probably several others as we sprint toward...  oldtimecanuk   Feb-18-07 07:31 PM   #38 
  - Hillary is trying to be tough  Katzenkavalier   Feb-18-07 07:47 PM   #46 
  - Yes, it's not only the arrogance, but the refusal to take *any* responsibility for the IWR  ShortnFiery   Feb-18-07 09:25 PM   #70 
  - Too bad for Edwards there are no do-overs when it comes to "preemptive  smoogatz   Feb-18-07 09:32 PM   #71 
  - Davine right  job777   Feb-19-07 04:40 PM   #155 
  - Oh, c'mon  incapsulated   Feb-18-07 07:31 PM   #37 
  - Full quote - in context - now that it's too late to matter  Cerridwen   Feb-18-07 07:42 PM   #44 
  - I was wondering about that. But still, she voted to abdicate her responsibility  cui bono   Feb-18-07 07:52 PM   #49 
  - She was in good company at the time.  Cerridwen   Feb-18-07 07:54 PM   #52 
  - It looks a little nicer in context, but still it's there  Laurab   Feb-18-07 08:09 PM   #57 
  - For me to admit it? Not too tough.  Cerridwen   Feb-18-07 08:25 PM   #61 
     - I probably wasn't here although I've seen plenty of attacks on Kerry  Laurab   Feb-18-07 08:48 PM   #63 
        - A reasoned discussion? On DU? Why thank you!  Cerridwen   Feb-18-07 09:19 PM   #68 
           - But you CAN vote for a hobbit!  eridani   Feb-18-07 10:35 PM   #77 
           - I must've seen or heard that.  Cerridwen   Feb-19-07 01:41 PM   #138 
           - Well, thanks....  Laurab   Feb-19-07 11:50 AM   #121 
              - Thank you for the discussion.  Cerridwen   Feb-19-07 12:52 PM   #128 
                 - Thank YOU!  Laurab   Feb-19-07 06:19 PM   #168 
  - She introduced a bill on Friday...  MilesColtrane   Feb-19-07 08:16 AM   #92 
  - She's a politician.  Cerridwen   Feb-19-07 01:36 PM   #133 
  - Slightly different from the interpretation of the OP, hmm?  TwilightZone   Feb-19-07 09:05 AM   #99 
  - I thought it interesting enough to investigate.  Cerridwen   Feb-19-07 01:39 PM   #135 
  - It mattered to me  October   Feb-19-07 10:52 AM   #117 
     - You bet.  Cerridwen   Feb-19-07 01:37 PM   #134 
  - I will not write off Hillary Clinton.  asjr   Feb-18-07 07:42 PM   #45 
  - Then why not back a candidate who doesn't give us more of the same?  ButterflyBlood   Feb-18-07 08:08 PM   #56 
  - Hillary will be trounced in the debates before the primary  Windy   Feb-18-07 08:02 PM   #55 
  - After she gets the nomination be sure to remember saying that.  JeremyWestenn   Feb-18-07 08:16 PM   #59 
  - not a snowball's chance in hell she will get the nomination . . .  OneBlueSky   Feb-19-07 01:43 AM   #83 
     - I'd like to believe that there's no way she gets the nomination but,...  MilesColtrane   Feb-19-07 08:31 AM   #94 
  - She's trying to reframe the issue here...unsuccessfully  Clarkie1   Feb-18-07 08:18 PM   #60 
  - Nader might be running  quinnox   Feb-18-07 08:49 PM   #64 
  - No need to vote for Nader  Katzenkavalier   Feb-18-07 08:51 PM   #65 
     - You got it  ButterflyBlood   Feb-18-07 10:01 PM   #75 
  - She wont make it  bonito   Feb-18-07 08:59 PM   #66 
  - Newsflash! If there is so much antipathy  Golden Raisin   Feb-18-07 09:41 PM   #72 
  - That's why we need to nominate someone else! n/t  ButterflyBlood   Feb-18-07 10:01 PM   #74 
  - DU and Kos do not represent the rank and file out there  incapsulated   Feb-19-07 12:28 AM   #79 
  - "I don't ever want another person in the Oval Office who cannot simply say,..."  MilesColtrane   Feb-19-07 08:35 AM   #95 
  - If DU was representative of reality, Wes Clark or Dennis Kucinich  TwilightZone   Feb-19-07 09:07 AM   #100 
     - If DU was representitive of reality, then America would be against the war  John Q. Citizen   Feb-19-07 10:12 AM   #107 
  - I don't have a problem with what she said.  Evergreen Emerald   Feb-18-07 11:30 PM   #78 
  - But it still would'nt be enough, would it?  DemCam   Feb-19-07 11:01 AM   #120 
  - Why did you not finish the  BenDavid   Feb-19-07 12:29 AM   #80 
  - One more time...  MilesColtrane   Feb-19-07 08:41 AM   #96 
  - Even the entire quote fairly screams her attitude toward all of the  greyhound1966   Feb-19-07 01:10 AM   #81 
  - I'm glad she's not caving  ruggerson   Feb-19-07 01:22 AM   #82 
  - This isn't about caving or not caving,  MadHound   Feb-19-07 10:00 AM   #106 
     - So essentially what I'm saying  ruggerson   Feb-19-07 10:31 AM   #111 
        - That's the thing, she will NEVER own up to her mistake  MadHound   Feb-19-07 10:51 AM   #116 
        - She is doing the right thing...  SaveElmer   Feb-19-07 11:55 AM   #122 
        - That is so much spin  knight_of_the_star   Feb-20-07 12:04 AM   #176 
  - Okay - I was planning to choose someone else anyway, but  Vinca   Feb-19-07 06:58 AM   #89 
  - Hillary displays empathy for those who have problems with her IWR vote. She then  oasis   Feb-19-07 08:02 AM   #91 
  - I wasn't going to vote for her anyway.  Elrond Hubbard   Feb-19-07 08:30 AM   #93 
  - Well then Hillary, thanks for making it easier for me  mconvente   Feb-19-07 08:57 AM   #97 
  - I'm tending to agree.  Vidar   Feb-19-07 09:11 AM   #101 
  - Personally, I like my leaders to be a little SMARTER than Hillary.  Nevernever   Feb-19-07 09:41 AM   #102 
  - But, but, but I thought she was a panderer...?  SaveElmer   Feb-19-07 09:43 AM   #103 
  - I don't agree  moblsv   Feb-19-07 09:51 AM   #104 
  - The Great and Powerful Kos is throwin a temper tantrum...  SaveElmer   Feb-19-07 09:56 AM   #105 
  - ...no... "radioactive." He's gonna make her radiocative...  wyldwolf   Feb-19-07 01:48 PM   #139 
     - Oh ....Right...  SaveElmer   Feb-19-07 02:30 PM   #147 
  - Like Bushes...  Everybody   Feb-19-07 10:13 AM   #108 
  - She is not expressing anger with you for not wanting to vote for her, why are  terisan   Feb-19-07 10:32 AM   #112 
  - Well, thanks, Hil, for giving me PERMISSION to vote against you!  rocknation   Feb-19-07 10:36 AM   #113 
  - They can't say she's calculating on this one n/t  creeksneakers2   Feb-19-07 10:41 AM   #114 
  - I....am....not...a...fan....  stillrockin   Feb-19-07 12:15 PM   #123 
  - I can appreciate her position  ktlyon   Feb-19-07 12:20 PM   #124 
  - I thought Clinton already said that her vote was a mistake.  DuaneBidoux   Feb-19-07 12:50 PM   #127 
  - she said recently when directly questioned  cadmium   Feb-19-07 04:49 PM   #160 
  - I agree...anyone but Hillary...  TwoSparkles   Feb-19-07 12:54 PM   #129 
  - Just Wondering  Irishonly   Feb-19-07 01:05 PM   #130 
  - The DLC/Repukes bribed -- excuse me funded Hillary with a big war chest....  PhilipShore   Feb-19-07 01:33 PM   #132 
  - Seems no matter what Hillary does she can't please everyone  Bitwit1234   Feb-19-07 01:40 PM   #136 
  - There's a difference between smearing and criticizing a candidate.  MilesColtrane   Feb-19-07 03:34 PM   #149 
  - She's a shill like all those DLCers are  kaygore   Feb-19-07 01:49 PM   #140 
  - You're so silly.  wiley   Feb-19-07 01:49 PM   #141 
  - actually, I have no problem with her statement  AtomicKitten   Feb-19-07 02:28 PM   #146 
  - It isn't always about Iraq and wars  bambino   Feb-19-07 04:24 PM   #152 
  - Just a minor issue like war. Yeah, no biggie.  tabasco   Feb-19-07 11:49 PM   #175 
  - You're just all pissed off because she's showing spine  mtnsnake   Feb-19-07 04:24 PM   #153 
  - One politicians spine is another's arrogance. This is open  cadmium   Feb-19-07 04:43 PM   #157 
  - Indeed there are others, and I have made a selection from the "other" category.  mzmolly   Feb-19-07 04:48 PM   #159 
  - I believe she knows that  cadmium   Feb-19-07 04:51 PM   #162 
     - Bone headed move.  mzmolly   Feb-19-07 05:05 PM   #165 
  - I never liked Hillary...  Hepburn   Feb-19-07 04:49 PM   #161 
  - She doesn't want to be called a flip-flopper  KingFlorez   Feb-19-07 05:04 PM   #164 
  - "Let the Conversation End"  Senator   Feb-19-07 05:23 PM   #167 
  - she is just not getting the level of anger out there  Skittles   Feb-19-07 06:44 PM   #169 
  - Completely meaningless rehashing  HughMoran   Feb-19-07 06:50 PM   #171 
  - To all the people praising her "resolve"  knight_of_the_star   Feb-20-07 12:10 AM   #177 
  - Same here. She ain't no Bill. Oh well. as Bill Clinton said, 'in the  caledesi   Feb-20-07 05:21 AM   #178 
 

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