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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 02:39 PM
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66. McBride??
Oh my good lord--that explains SOOO much about this board.

No wonder folks here seem to be off kilter...

McBride? Really?? McBride.

I just can't get over it, folks. What were they thinking???

It was a clear as the clueless look on chimpy's face--

McBride was the sacrificial lamb. Reno didn't play the DNC/DLC game and thus got shafted.

What the hell is the "leadership" thinking? (quotes are so very necessary here)

The fact that folks on the DU would back McBride just shows that many folks here need an education in reality.

BTW-- this was not at any time Dean Underground. Only those who backed others would think of it as such. I have never seen a more concerted effort to destroy a candidate on this board than w/ Dean.

They succeeded, at least on this board, and now we will all have to reap the results.

I, for one, don't deserve another McBride....

Wow.. a Dean/Reno ticket.... :loveya:

Before y'all freak--just think about it would turn out should this ticket win. We wouldn't have to worry about the 4 years of attacks--for most of the "right-wingers" would spontaneously combust!!

(Barring the cleanup--wouldn't it be great?????)
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  -How's DU conventional wisdom scoring? Not so good, eh? AP  Feb-11-04 12:02 PM   #0 
  - not many candidates left  Ficus   Feb-11-04 12:06 PM   #1 
  - We could be wrong about the one we end up with, and then Bush wins.  AP   Feb-11-04 12:12 PM   #2 
  - DU is completey irrelevant to the real world.  Feanorcurufinwe   Feb-11-04 12:12 PM   #3 
  - Ssssshhhhhh DU world is not the"real world"? put on your flamesuit. :-)  oasis   Feb-11-04 12:19 PM   # 
  - I had a friend looking over my shoulder while I posted yesterday.  AP   Feb-11-04 12:19 PM   #10 
     - Referring to your post?  joshcryer   Feb-11-04 12:54 PM   # 
        - Uh, actually, no.  AP   Feb-11-04 12:55 PM   #32 
           - Too bad.  joshcryer   Feb-11-04 01:01 PM   #39 
  - Well, let's see...  WilliamPitt   Feb-11-04 12:15 PM   #4 
  - And yet, you're still here...  IrateCitizen   Feb-11-04 12:16 PM   #5 
  - I learned that I am a glutton for punishment  WilliamPitt   Feb-11-04 12:17 PM   #7 
  - And longtime Democrats are not to be respected because we are  jchild   Feb-11-04 12:17 PM   #6 
  - DK is NOT a liberal  liberalhistorian   Feb-11-04 08:54 PM   #94 
  - Why are we so bad at picking winners?  ShimokitaJer   Feb-11-04 12:18 PM   #8 
  - It amazes me that people who care enough about politics to post here  AP   Feb-11-04 12:21 PM   #11 
  - it's not about picking winners  jmaier   Feb-11-04 12:26 PM   #15 
  - It's about picking winners. At least, the Republicans know as much.  AP   Feb-11-04 12:49 PM   #23 
  - AP  jmaier   Feb-11-04 01:10 PM   #43 
     - MUST READ: If Kerry gets the nomination and loses, I could never  AP   Feb-11-04 01:17 PM   #44 
        - one correction  salin   Feb-11-04 03:07 PM   #70 
  - deleted  Mairead   Feb-11-04 02:15 PM   #60 
  - If You Want to Pick Winners, Go to Saratoga  Crisco   Feb-11-04 12:28 PM   #17 
     - We're picking candidates who can win -- who can beat Republicans.  AP   Feb-11-04 12:50 PM   #24 
  - Ayup  redqueen   Feb-11-04 12:21 PM   #12 
  - hee,hee  tobius   Feb-11-04 12:30 PM   #19 
  - LOL too true!  rucky   Feb-11-04 01:48 PM   #57 
  - The TV pundits have an incentive to be wrong: they want Bush to win and  AP   Feb-11-04 02:05 PM   #59 
  - Not only that, we eschew Establishment candidates.  Why   Feb-11-04 03:14 PM   #71 
  - I admit I'm a horrible predictor of winners.  HopeLives   Feb-11-04 12:19 PM   #9 
  - There is a logic to who wins that really shouldn't be beyond our grasp.  AP   Feb-11-04 12:22 PM   #13 
     - What might that be?  DancingBear   Feb-11-04 12:28 PM   #18 
     - Yes. But I always expect better of people than I should. n/t  HopeLives   Feb-11-04 12:44 PM   #21 
  - There's Nothing Conventional About DU Wisdom  Crisco   Feb-11-04 12:24 PM   #14 
  - You make an excellent point, Crisco. Without all the Campaign activists  KoKo01   Feb-11-04 12:52 PM   #26 
  - Exactly, it's basically the 'spotlight' and 'hush hush' syndrom.  joshcryer   Feb-11-04 12:53 PM   #27 
  - Well, personally speaking  Redneck Socialist   Feb-11-04 12:27 PM   #16 
  - I dunno. I don't think *anyone* is any good at handicapping  charlie   Feb-11-04 12:38 PM   #20 
  - DU is more left left leaning than the real world  YouMustBeKiddingMe   Feb-11-04 12:45 PM   #22 
  - I used to think DU was more left leaning  Uzybone   Feb-11-04 12:51 PM   #25 
  - He is more centrist, but supported by more left leaning supporters  YouMustBeKiddingMe   Feb-11-04 01:09 PM   #42 
  - I've seen some pretty serious misunderstandings about class, race & gender  AP   Feb-11-04 12:54 PM   #30 
     - Please say more about this AP  tishaLA   Feb-11-04 01:46 PM   #56 
        - The best example of race and gender problems were with Condi Rice  AP   Feb-11-04 02:04 PM   #58 
           - Thanks for the response  tishaLA   Feb-11-04 02:23 PM   #63 
           - Are you a grad student?  AP   Feb-11-04 02:24 PM   #64 
              - Yeah I am.  tishaLA   Feb-11-04 08:27 PM   #89 
           - what a great post  hippiegranny   Feb-11-04 04:57 PM   #80 
           - Hey, thanks!  AP   Feb-11-04 05:02 PM   #84 
              - no, thank you!!!  hippiegranny   Feb-11-04 05:08 PM   #88 
           - Spectacular post!  DjTj   Feb-12-04 12:45 AM   #100 
              - Well said!  fujiyama   Feb-12-04 01:45 AM   #101 
              - I think the underlying problem is ideas over people...  DjTj   Feb-12-04 01:55 AM   #103 
              - That's what I'm saying.  AP   Feb-12-04 02:04 AM   #104 
  - I've been a dud at picking the winner almost all of the time!  Stuckinthebush   Feb-11-04 12:53 PM   #28 
  - ## Support Democratic Underground! ##  DU GrovelBot   Feb-11-04 12:54 PM   #29 
  - You're not good at it either  dionysus   Feb-11-04 12:55 PM   #31 
  - I picked Edwards over a year ago. Look where he's at now.  AP   Feb-11-04 12:57 PM   #34 
     - NO, Edwards is a joke pretty boy who is still in becasue the media likes  Tweedtheatre   Feb-11-04 01:25 PM   #49 
        - He and Kucinich are the most anti-fascist, anti-corporatocracy candidates  AP   Feb-11-04 01:34 PM   #52 
        - i agree. Edwards WILL secure the needed moderate vote!  SangamonTaylor   Feb-11-04 02:18 PM   #61 
        - One doesn't make hundreds of millions as a trial lawyer by being  Mairead   Feb-11-04 02:23 PM   #62 
  - McBride didn't fight; he ran a lousy campaign. John Kerry is a fighter.  flpoljunkie   Feb-11-04 12:57 PM   #33 
  - I don't think Kerry can beat Bush in the south. I think Edwards can.  AP   Feb-11-04 12:59 PM   #37 
     - Edward's showing in Tennessee and Virginia belie that argument.  flpoljunkie   Feb-11-04 01:19 PM   #46 
        - We'll see what happens.  AP   Feb-11-04 01:36 PM   #54 
  - IMHO, DU is best at "Tinfoilhatting" which turns out to be "True!"  KoKo01   Feb-11-04 12:58 PM   #35 
  - Okay, flame me...but no long term consistency.  SeekerofTruth   Feb-11-04 12:59 PM   #36 
  - JKF wasn't "pro tax cuts" -- he was pro-rational tax policy.  AP   Feb-11-04 01:06 PM   #40 
     - Good points.. It's the inconsistency that bothers me  SeekerofTruth   Feb-11-04 01:20 PM   #47 
  - To say the DU is kerry country  MAlibdem   Feb-11-04 01:00 PM   #38 
  - I see a lot of posters saying they're switching to Kerry, and only one so  AP   Feb-11-04 01:08 PM   #41 
  - well...not to toot my own horn  Magic Rat   Feb-11-04 01:19 PM   #45 
  - In the primary? Or the general election?  AP   Feb-11-04 01:20 PM   #48 
     - both  Magic Rat   Feb-11-04 01:27 PM   #50 
        - How much did you win?  joshcryer   Feb-11-04 01:29 PM   #51 
        - I will win $50  Magic Rat   Feb-11-04 01:37 PM   #55 
        - We'll talk in November.  AP   Feb-11-04 01:35 PM   #53 
           - FWIW  charlie   Feb-11-04 03:46 PM   #73 
  - was DU unique in predicting dean?  enki23   Feb-11-04 02:32 PM   #65 
  - DU'ers got on board very early, and Dean was winning all the "internal"  AP   Feb-11-04 03:00 PM   #67 
     - so, pretty much like the rest of the country then  enki23   Feb-11-04 03:25 PM   #72 
     - No. Before the rest of the country.  AP   Feb-11-04 04:15 PM   #76 
     - Dean is still...  fujiyama   Feb-12-04 01:55 AM   #102 
  - McBride??  Malikshah   Feb-11-04 02:39 PM   #66 
  - I actually liked Edwards............  XanthaS   Feb-11-04 03:02 PM   #68 
  - Yesterday was the first time I pushed...  AP   Feb-11-04 03:04 PM   #69 
  - We come here for many different reasons-to preach, inform, vent, bond etc.  JohnOneillsMemory   Feb-11-04 03:51 PM   #74 
  - I think DU finally gets it right with Kerry  andym   Feb-11-04 03:56 PM   #75 
  - That sounds like something that was said about any number of losers...  AP   Feb-11-04 04:16 PM   #77 
     - The difference is that Kerry's dominance represents actual results  andym   Feb-11-04 09:00 PM   #95 
  - Edwards Will Be Out After Wisconsin  Justice   Feb-11-04 04:42 PM   #78 
  - So long it's after a fair debate of Kerry and Edwards's ideas, I'll be...  AP   Feb-11-04 04:59 PM   #81 
  - Will you be satisfied if Kerry "borrows" Edwards ideas?  andym   Feb-11-04 09:08 PM   #96 
     - Like, "I know what it's like to have debt and to grow up working class"  AP   Feb-12-04 12:16 AM   #99 
  - Edwards received UNITE endorsement in Madison  spooky3   Feb-11-04 08:33 PM   #91 
  - the point?  mmonk   Feb-11-04 04:43 PM   #79 
  - And the Republicans pick winners from the start. Why aren't we as smart?  AP   Feb-11-04 04:59 PM   #82 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-11-04 05:01 PM   #83 
  - I'm not talking about Ku supporters. I'm talking about McBride and Dean to  AP   Feb-11-04 05:04 PM   #85 
     - So  mmonk   Feb-11-04 05:07 PM   #86 
        - at this rate, maybe.  AP   Feb-11-04 05:08 PM   #87 
           - or perhaps  salin   Feb-11-04 08:45 PM   #92 
              - When was the last time Republicans backed the wrong candidate?  AP   Feb-12-04 12:14 AM   #97 
  - McBride fell on his face?  KamaAina   Feb-11-04 08:32 PM   #90 
  - Demos turned on Reno, and it started here  AP   Feb-12-04 12:15 AM   #98 
  - We are ideologues.  Bleachers7   Feb-11-04 08:45 PM   #93 
 

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