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Mon Jan-22-07 09:08 PM
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| Help Me Out Here - Mrs. Clinton's Most Courageous Stands? |
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Edited on Mon Jan-22-07 09:09 PM by MannyGoldstein
The only political risk that I can ever remember Mrs. Clinton taking is her health care program - and even then, the risk was mitigated by the plan ensuring that most of those getting fat off of private medicine would continue to get fat.
Other than that, what are some stands that Mrs. Clinton took that were contrary to public opinion polls at the time?
Can anyone name even one or two? I'm not a Clinton fan, but there's gotta be a few that I'm missing.
Specifics please.
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| -Help Me Out Here - Mrs. Clinton's Most Courageous Stands? |
MannyGoldstein |
Jan-22-07 09:08 PM |
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Using that basis Bush would be King Valiant |
Little Wing |
Jan-22-07 09:09 PM |
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Ever Heard of the Golden Mean? |
MannyGoldstein |
Jan-22-07 09:11 PM |
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I don't think you have a full understanding of "The Golden Mean" |
Little Wing |
Jan-22-07 09:48 PM |
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not a clue here |
Pharaoh |
Jan-22-07 09:11 PM |
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I LOVE YOUR TAG LINE n/t |
MannyGoldstein |
Jan-22-07 09:12 PM |
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true though isn't it |
Pharaoh |
Jan-22-07 09:18 PM |
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I'm glad you pointed that tag line out - it' s great. |
karynnj |
Jan-22-07 11:10 PM |
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Didn't she call Bush out on Tora Bora? Supported Kerry's call for Rumsfeld's firing in 2003-4? |
blm |
Jan-22-07 09:21 PM |
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These positions were "contrary to public opinion polls?" n/t |
PaulHo |
Jan-22-07 09:25 PM |
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heh...they were contrary to SENATE Dems' opinion polls. |
blm |
Jan-22-07 09:28 PM |
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lol |
sandnsea |
Jan-23-07 06:32 PM |
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Refusing to stay home and bake CooKies! |
OnceUponTimeOnTheNet |
Jan-22-07 09:24 PM |
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Yeah that remark was really insulting |
Lord Byron |
Jan-23-07 09:13 AM |
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Why was that insulting? |
ieoeja |
Jan-23-07 01:27 PM |
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Why is that a criteria? |
SaveElmer |
Jan-22-07 09:26 PM |
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No No No |
MannyGoldstein |
Jan-22-07 09:33 PM |
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That is simply wrong... |
SaveElmer |
Jan-22-07 09:43 PM |
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You're mistaken |
mycritters2 |
Jan-22-07 10:20 PM |
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Except when he was debating in Southern Illinois... |
SaveElmer |
Jan-22-07 10:27 PM |
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If You're A Huge Lincoln Admirer, I Have A Happy Surprise For You |
MannyGoldstein |
Jan-22-07 10:48 PM |
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In fact I have read those books and more... |
SaveElmer |
Jan-22-07 10:52 PM |
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He Suspended Habeas Corpus - But Immediately Asked Congress To OK It |
MannyGoldstein |
Jan-22-07 11:04 PM |
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How about his jailing... |
SaveElmer |
Jan-22-07 11:06 PM |
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I Didn't Know That He Did That |
MannyGoldstein |
Jan-22-07 11:09 PM |
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Well it was in DC... |
SaveElmer |
Jan-22-07 11:11 PM |
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self delete |
karynnj |
Jan-22-07 11:22 PM |
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Not exactly :"Monstrous injustice of slavery itself". |
PaulHo |
Jan-22-07 10:28 PM |
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During the Lincoln Douglas Debates |
SaveElmer |
Jan-22-07 10:30 PM |
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I believe "citzenship" and "slavery" are two entirely different topics. |
ieoeja |
Jan-23-07 01:52 PM |
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Indeed. Nicely explicated. n/t |
PaulHo |
Jan-23-07 02:32 PM |
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Lets get back to my original statement... |
SaveElmer |
Jan-23-07 03:56 PM |
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Oh, sure, let's bring facts into this. |
ieoeja |
Jan-23-07 04:35 PM |
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Alright |
MrRobotsHolyOrders |
Jan-22-07 09:40 PM |
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Well I have to disagree with you on her war stance... |
SaveElmer |
Jan-22-07 09:53 PM |
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Respect |
MrRobotsHolyOrders |
Jan-22-07 10:00 PM |
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Yep... |
SaveElmer |
Jan-22-07 10:03 PM |
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Not to make this thread go on forever, but.... |
MrRobotsHolyOrders |
Jan-22-07 10:14 PM |
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So, by implication, what are you ( and she) saying.... |
PaulHo |
Jan-22-07 10:08 PM |
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Not at all... |
SaveElmer |
Jan-22-07 10:13 PM |
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Did she speak out in early 2003 when that info |
karynnj |
Jan-22-07 11:27 PM |
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Because it is about leadership, she does not lead. It is about coalition, she is divisive. |
greyhound1966 |
Jan-23-07 04:26 PM |
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So much wrong in only 76 words... |
SaveElmer |
Jan-23-07 05:01 PM |
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She is my Senator |
Nite Owl |
Jan-22-07 09:26 PM |
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She's been strongly against violent video games. |
Jim Sagle |
Jan-22-07 09:45 PM |
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Hey, you took mine! |
evlbstrd |
Jan-22-07 09:57 PM |
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Well, when you've only got one issue, it's tough to share. |
Jim Sagle |
Jan-22-07 10:31 PM |
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True that. |
evlbstrd |
Jan-22-07 11:05 PM |
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Hmmm... I thought Tipper Gore did that! n/t |
Tatiana |
Jan-23-07 01:58 AM |
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Tipper's cause was dangerous music. |
Jim Sagle |
Jan-23-07 08:40 AM |
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Well, She Admitted She Had No Idea |
rwenos |
Jan-22-07 09:53 PM |
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Her attitude towards political risks for principles can be summed up by... |
earthlover |
Jan-22-07 09:53 PM |
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Are the other candidates in it to lose? n/t |
terisan |
Jan-22-07 10:32 PM |
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Old Saying about Leadership |
terisan |
Jan-22-07 11:01 PM |
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well, there was her non-vote on the Bankruptcy |
leftofthedial |
Jan-22-07 11:26 PM |
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But She DID Vote For The First Predatory Lender Protection Act |
MannyGoldstein |
Jan-22-07 11:42 PM |
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SHe gave a speech the day before laying out her opposition...she missed the vote... |
SaveElmer |
Jan-22-07 11:46 PM |
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to her credit, she says she would have voted "no." |
leftofthedial |
Jan-23-07 01:56 AM |
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that was the 2005 legislation, actually |
paulk |
Jan-23-07 02:39 PM |
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You're right she did have a lot of company i including John Edwards |
karynnj |
Jan-23-07 04:01 PM |
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OTOH, it looks like a plus for Sam Brownback! |
paulk |
Jan-23-07 05:34 PM |
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I agree - your point though is well taken |
karynnj |
Jan-24-07 08:04 AM |
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Kick- Still waiting for a real answer. Anybody? |
Porcupine |
Jan-23-07 01:14 AM |
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Actually the majority was for war at the time. But when she knew Iraq was in |
blm |
Jan-23-07 01:29 PM |
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Towing the corporate party line |
Lord Byron |
Jan-23-07 09:12 AM |
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"Bush Knew".Q: Who stood up in the senate chamber with a copy of the NY Post |
oasis |
Jan-23-07 09:53 AM |
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Oh, I remember that! |
Nedsdag |
Jan-23-07 01:38 PM |
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Do you remember if anyone in the House or Senate backed her up on it? |
oasis |
Jan-23-07 01:47 PM |
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Geez, I think you could have asked this same question ... |
harveyc |
Jan-23-07 04:15 PM |
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Even "her" health-care plan was nothing more than a gigantic windfall |
greyhound1966 |
Jan-23-07 04:17 PM |
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Senator Clinton's hold on a bad Ryan White Reauthorization Plan |
wiley |
Jan-23-07 04:37 PM |
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Sometimes |
bmbmd |
Jan-23-07 05:36 PM |
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stayin with Bill, and not baking cookies. |
librechik |
Jan-23-07 06:22 PM |
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she opposed |
MonkeyFunk |
Jan-23-07 06:34 PM |
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thx for the correxn |
librechik |
Jan-23-07 08:56 PM |
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"Courageous" |
area51 |
Jan-24-07 10:54 AM |
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