Judi Lynn
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Wed Jan-17-07 03:41 AM
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| 22. Yeah, we've had more than enough Chavez threads. No one here will be changing his/her mind. |
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DU'ers who care about Latin America finding its way to freedom do enjoy exchanging new information, however. Hope these countries, and their viciously exploited poor finally make it to a safe haven.
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| -Chavez? Hero or Dictator? |
Canadian_NewDemocrat |
Jan-16-07 05:22 PM |
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Certainly not a hero... |
SaveElmer |
Jan-16-07 05:32 PM |
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Hero AND Dictator. A better dictator than Bush I say. |
harveyrunner |
Jan-21-07 10:08 AM |
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Just another opportunist using politics to make his way in the world. n/t |
no_hypocrisy |
Jan-16-07 05:34 PM |
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I question the wisdom of hosting the Iranian leader. We don't need to give |
muntrv |
Jan-16-07 05:45 PM |
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Don't let me catch you in other threads saying that we need to have dialogue |
1932 |
Jan-16-07 09:58 PM |
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WHY NOT? I'm entitled to an opinion just like any other poster. |
muntrv |
Jan-17-07 08:14 PM |
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Historical figure |
leveymg |
Jan-16-07 05:45 PM |
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You know, you *could* just do your own research, and reach your own opinion. |
scarletwoman |
Jan-16-07 05:47 PM |
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Oh, for pete's sake! Please educate yourself...it's very important! |
Peace Patriot |
Jan-16-07 05:52 PM |
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Perfectly stated! |
Toonces27 |
Jan-16-07 06:06 PM |
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Well-stated, thought-provoking in a non-cliche' way. n/t |
Poll_Blind |
Jan-16-07 06:42 PM |
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Very good. *ss and co. hate him because he nationalized the |
jwirr |
Jan-16-07 06:57 PM |
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Well Said, Thank You, No se va Chavez. n/t |
CRH |
Jan-19-07 10:12 AM |
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Excellent post! thank you |
pberq |
Jan-19-07 11:11 AM |
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Um...how about elected president of Venezuela? I like that one. |
McCamy Taylor |
Jan-16-07 05:56 PM |
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That's what he is... |
SOS |
Jan-18-07 11:13 AM |
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Well, Einstein was a thoroughgoing Socialist, so what was good enough |
KCabotDullesMarxIII |
Jan-16-07 06:35 PM |
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A good start is watching "Chavez: Inside the coup" streaming, free, HERE: |
Poll_Blind |
Jan-16-07 06:38 PM |
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Chavez is a hero! Bush is a tyrant! |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-16-07 06:49 PM |
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Are YOU a hero or a dictator? |
otherlander |
Jan-16-07 09:35 PM |
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Definitely a progressive hero. MSM wouldn't be trying so hard to rework reality |
1932 |
Jan-16-07 09:56 PM |
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Hero |
Contrite |
Jan-17-07 01:19 AM |
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Don't give up. Adequate background on Latin American history and current events |
Judi Lynn |
Jan-17-07 02:17 AM |
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Correction: disregard my post. I completely misread. Proof I'm "awake" far too late to post. |
Judi Lynn |
Jan-17-07 03:36 AM |
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Hero! |
LaPera |
Jan-17-07 02:14 AM |
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Neither: simply a brute |
NV1962 |
Jan-17-07 03:12 AM |
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Yeah, we've had more than enough Chavez threads. No one here will be changing his/her mind. |
Judi Lynn |
Jan-17-07 03:41 AM |
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Hero |
GreenTea |
Jan-17-07 03:53 AM |
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The answer is HERO, my friend. |
dad |
Jan-17-07 04:35 AM |
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Not a hero. Not quite a dictator...yet. |
jefferson_dem |
Jan-17-07 05:41 AM |
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How about "Chavez: legitimate elected leader of Venezuela"? nt |
bemildred |
Jan-17-07 09:29 AM |
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Chavez, a good man, has done GREAT things for Venezuela. |
lojasmo |
Jan-17-07 09:59 AM |
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I don't like Chavez, but that still doesn't mean.... |
generaldemocrat |
Jan-17-07 10:15 AM |
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So especially Lula doesn't like Chavez, eh? That's not the information we DU'ers have held all this |
Judi Lynn |
Jan-17-07 10:31 AM |
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Lula and Chavez are rivals.... |
generaldemocrat |
Jan-17-07 10:41 AM |
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That's Paul Wolfowitz's line--that Chavez is "riding" the oil boom and that, |
Peace Patriot |
Jan-17-07 11:36 AM |
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Has Chavez invested in Venezuelan industry? |
generaldemocrat |
Jan-17-07 12:03 PM |
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You're wrong about Peru. The leftist candidate, Ollanta Humala, came out of |
Peace Patriot |
Jan-17-07 09:36 PM |
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I found a new article you might find interesting, if you've not read it already. |
Judi Lynn |
Jan-17-07 05:03 PM |
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What parameters of judgment? |
PATRICK |
Jan-17-07 11:55 AM |
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Just because someone |
BoneDaddy |
Jan-17-07 06:05 PM |
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Dictator, ruling through soft power. |
Kelly Rupert |
Jan-17-07 06:08 PM |
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Why don't you post your information about his lack of transparency. |
Judi Lynn |
Jan-17-07 09:25 PM |
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Care to elaborate on the "disregard for transparency" accusation? n/t |
greyhound1966 |
Jan-17-07 11:36 PM |
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I have seen a valid argument against him. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-17-07 06:15 PM |
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He's neither |
ProudDad |
Jan-17-07 09:12 PM |
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He's a hero to the indigenous tribe in the outpost the army sent him to |
1932 |
Jan-17-07 11:04 PM |
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He's not a dictator and in light of the history of South America's national |
greyhound1966 |
Jan-17-07 11:20 PM |
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Confused About Venezuela? |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-17-07 11:27 PM |
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Love that Eva Golinger. So glad to see she referred to the massacre |
Judi Lynn |
Jan-18-07 04:17 AM |
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don't you find it fascinating that Mr. Perez started out as a leftist? |
paulk |
Jan-18-07 01:27 PM |
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Let's see that information about Carlos Andres Perez being in danger at the hands |
Judi Lynn |
Jan-18-07 01:43 PM |
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Hugo Chavez didn't lead the Feb. 27th, '92 coup? |
paulk |
Jan-18-07 04:53 PM |
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Provide legitmate information with a link concerning the coup. |
Judi Lynn |
Jan-18-07 05:06 PM |
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how about you supply information that he wasn't in danger? |
paulk |
Jan-18-07 05:59 PM |
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Don't waste your time attempting to dance around mentally. You'll just get dizzy. |
Judi Lynn |
Jan-18-07 06:28 PM |
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for someone who is always demanding that others "educate" |
paulk |
Jan-18-07 06:50 PM |
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Devil or Angel, I can't make up my mind... |
LittleClarkie |
Jan-17-07 11:38 PM |
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Hero: He asks for powers that Bush just steals. |
Vidar |
Jan-18-07 07:33 AM |
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Neither one. |
Bridget Burke |
Jan-18-07 07:39 AM |
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Not the former, and certainly not the latter. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Jan-18-07 08:50 AM |
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Evidence? |
PeaceProgProsp |
Jan-18-07 11:46 AM |
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Thought he was a hero...now i think not. |
Phoonzang |
Jan-18-07 08:51 AM |
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If you took the time to do your homework you'd be aware that the "other" |
Judi Lynn |
Jan-18-07 11:02 AM |
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That's an awful broad brush you are employing ... |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-18-07 11:11 AM |
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That all depends on whether Venezuela is richer or poorer |
fuzzyball |
Jan-18-07 11:35 AM |
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Poverty down and more people have health care and education |
PeaceProgProsp |
Jan-18-07 11:47 AM |
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Then why is crime up...... |
generaldemocrat |
Jan-18-07 11:50 AM |
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Where can we see those crime stats? |
Bridget Burke |
Jan-18-07 03:18 PM |
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Stats/Articles here..... |
generaldemocrat |
Jan-18-07 03:38 PM |
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Thanks for the information. |
Bridget Burke |
Jan-18-07 04:26 PM |
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The Kozloff article is good. It answers your questions. |
PeaceProgProsp |
Jan-19-07 05:51 PM |
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Chavez inherited one of the most wealth-polarized societies in the world |
PeaceProgProsp |
Jan-19-07 05:48 PM |
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playing Robin Hood could help the poor but will the general |
fuzzyball |
Jan-18-07 01:59 PM |
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Playing Robin Hood? You need to spend a little of your posting time on educating yourself, instead, |
Judi Lynn |
Jan-18-07 03:40 PM |
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I dated a woman from Venezuela and that was an education |
fuzzyball |
Jan-18-07 03:50 PM |
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You could use help with your reading skills. I said there's no middle class straining away |
Judi Lynn |
Jan-18-07 04:00 PM |
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Dictator - loved by DU and his mother. nt |
jarab |
Jan-18-07 01:46 PM |
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Loved by the Venezuelan public. |
roody |
Jan-18-07 06:48 PM |
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I would say more of a demagogue than either of those two. |
LoZoccolo |
Jan-18-07 01:48 PM |
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World Health Organization |
happydreams |
Jan-18-07 02:27 PM |
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scum sucking maggot? |
Labors of Hercules |
Jan-18-07 03:30 PM |
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You talking to yerself again. |
happydreams |
Jan-19-07 03:32 PM |
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Huey Long |
malikstein |
Jan-18-07 03:36 PM |
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Funny: President Chavez is referred to as a "dictator" in US Corporate Media... |
KansDem |
Jan-18-07 03:54 PM |
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Advocating suspension of mayors, local govt |
sandnsea |
Jan-18-07 04:29 PM |
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Post your links. This isn't a gossip page. n/t |
Judi Lynn |
Jan-18-07 05:07 PM |
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You know it's true |
sandnsea |
Jan-18-07 06:12 PM |
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Typical right-wing crap |
ProudDad |
Jan-18-07 10:59 PM |
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Don't you know those are simply biased bits of anti-hugo propaganda promulgated |
jefferson_dem |
Jan-18-07 11:13 PM |
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He got lucky |
Nederland |
Jan-18-07 05:20 PM |
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Might not even be true |
sandnsea |
Jan-18-07 06:14 PM |
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former chief economist of the Venezuelan National Assembly |
ProudDad |
Jan-18-07 11:01 PM |
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He was Democratically Elected I don't think he's a dictator |
Geek_Girl |
Jan-18-07 08:18 PM |
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Why do you think Chavez is becoming more authoritarian and unilateral? |
rman |
Jan-19-07 01:25 AM |
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how much does Hugo's Great Society benefits, cost the country? |
Moby Grape |
Jan-19-07 07:52 AM |
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His benefits are sustainable so long as the economy grows.... |
generaldemocrat |
Jan-19-07 10:56 AM |
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You can answer a lot of your own questions, and spare yourself misapprehension |
Judi Lynn |
Jan-19-07 12:31 PM |
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The benefits are sustainable so long as the nation generates income |
rman |
Jan-19-07 07:28 PM |
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Maybe he's just a guy. |
booley |
Jan-19-07 03:15 PM |
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If Chavez were a Pinochet, he'd be supported by the US |
rman |
Jan-19-07 07:34 PM |
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This is a STRANGE thread .... |
larissa |
Jan-19-07 07:41 PM |
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Well, the OP did sort of answer his own questions |
rman |
Jan-20-07 09:01 AM |
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Maybe he was axed by.... |
happydreams |
Jan-20-07 04:45 PM |
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My opinions come from the words of his own mouth. |
DuaneBidoux |
Jan-20-07 06:06 PM |
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I see |
ProudDad |
Jan-20-07 08:14 PM |
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I am most comfortable with the Swedish brand of socialism. |
DuaneBidoux |
Jan-22-07 02:35 PM |
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I like his anti-* stance but I am concerned |
Maestro |
Jan-20-07 08:07 PM |
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I think it's up to the "middle class" |
ProudDad |
Jan-20-07 08:21 PM |
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Again, not everyone participated in that coup. |
Maestro |
Jan-20-07 09:12 PM |
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"And now he is attacking Henry (Harry) Ried (Reid)?" Obviously NOT. |
Judi Lynn |
Jan-21-07 03:35 AM |
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Hey JudiLynn sorry for getting the spelling wrong. |
Maestro |
Jan-21-07 10:01 AM |
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Venezuela dismisses US concerns on Chavez |
Judi Lynn |
Jan-21-07 05:03 AM |
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Chavez, A Bridge Too Far? |
dollydew |
Jan-22-07 03:25 PM |
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Venezuela has nationalized industries for years. |
Judi Lynn |
Jan-22-07 04:27 PM |
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to his people who are not wealthy land owners/corporatists, a hero |
SemperEadem |
Jan-22-07 03:32 PM |
#115 |
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